Eidolon is supposedly an outsider, but it has very few traits, barring a few elemental type evolutions, that hint at this extra-planar heritage. I would like to see some planar dependent evolutions like fiendish or celestial powers. While similar powers could be created through the spell and skill evolutions, for flavor's sake, it would nice to see them more explicitly stated.
The outsider designation serves the following two purposes.
1. It establishes the Eidolon as something that comes from "elsewhere". Actually as I understand it it's actually the projection of a greater being molded by the desires of the Summoner.
2. It delineates what spells can affect it, i.e. the type gives it outsider immunities and vulnerabilities save as specified in the description.
The Eidolon is tough enough it doesn't need anything more added to the package.
LazarX wrote:
The Eidolon is tough enough it doesn't need anything more added to the package.
Maybe not for FREE, but perhaps as a prepackaged evolution set?
A "Lesser Demon" set, for example, that gives DR 5/Good, Elec Res, and natural attacks that count as Chaotic, Evil, and then later on a "Greater Demon" set that gives DR 10/Good, Elec and Poison Immunity, Fire/Cold/Acid res, etc etc.
I think a lot of fun could be done with some pre-packaged Eidolons, sets that cost 5 evolution points but give a variety of useful features that, if purchased seperately, would cost more than 5.
Adam Teles wrote: LazarX wrote:
The Eidolon is tough enough it doesn't need anything more added to the package.
Maybe not for FREE, but perhaps as a prepackaged evolution set?
A "Lesser Demon" set, for example, that gives DR 5/Good, Elec Res, and natural attacks that count as Chaotic, Evil, and then later on a "Greater Demon" set that gives DR 10/Good, Elec and Poison Immunity, Fire/Cold/Acid res, etc etc.
I think a lot of fun could be done with some pre-packaged Eidolons, sets that cost 5 evolution points but give a variety of useful features that, if purchased seperately, would cost more than 5. I think that this would give many players some additional ideas and general direction to their Eidolon concept. I think some types like demon, ooze, axiomatic/anarchic, elemental, and aberrant would be cool.
I agree that some package deals would be cool. If not just to help players who are new decide quicker at character creation. I know that when I sit down to make something like this it is quick but when I have a new player, some not all, they can take hours to decide on a single trait.
Santiago Mendez wrote: I agree that some package deals would be cool. If not just to help players who are new decide quicker at character creation. I know that when I sit down to make something like this it is quick but when I have a new player, some not all, they can take hours to decide on a single trait. New players? To hell with them. It'd be INVALUABLE to a DM wanting to use Summoners as enemies.
Adam Teles wrote: Santiago Mendez wrote: I agree that some package deals would be cool. If not just to help players who are new decide quicker at character creation. I know that when I sit down to make something like this it is quick but when I have a new player, some not all, they can take hours to decide on a single trait. New players? To hell with them. It'd be INVALUABLE to a DM wanting to use Summoners as enemies. That too of course
It would really just be fabulous for everyone. It would help new players, DMs, and veteran nerds like us dream up cooler Eidolons faster.
It also would emphasize the fact that the Eidolon is an outsider. It is not just some monster, it is an extra-planar monster like a celestial, and it would be nice to see some of that flavor come through.
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