Mercury DragonYAY! I always had a soft spot for the Mercury Dragon.
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I have been slowly combining these into a PDF file. Would you like em to send it to you when it is completed?
Good. I wanted to do that with all Fryer's Monsters, but I've been too distracted.
I'll put in a request for a copy of that as well :D
So, a question regarding the use of these beasties... I'm running a Dragon-Fall War campaign. By that, meaning the normal hostilities between the two factions of dragonkind have exploded into all-out open worldwide conflict. That and Tiamat has a very nasty advantage. You have a lot of non-Good and at least one Evil metallic dragons in that conversion thread, I'm curious where they'd stand on the situation. (Assuming no abnormalities from the norm of course, there's always the chance a handful would switch sides or do something else unusual, I just want a standard position to work from then tweak individuals from there. Knowledge Check sort of stuff.)
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I'll put in a request for a copy of that as well :D
So, a question regarding the use of these beasties... I'm running a Dragon-Fall War campaign. By that, meaning the normal hostilities between the two factions of dragonkind have exploded into all-out open worldwide conflict. That and Tiamat has a very nasty advantage. You have a lot of non-Good and at least one Evil metallic dragons in that conversion thread, I'm curious where they'd stand on the situation. (Assuming no abnormalities from the norm of course, there's always the chance a handful would switch sides or do something else unusual, I just want a standard position to work from then tweak individuals from there. Knowledge Check sort of stuff.)
The problem relates to how 4e works. 4E has an alighnment that is called "Unaligned" This basically covers LN, LE NG, N, CG, and CN in the 3.5/Pathfinder spectrum. All metallic dragons possess this alignment. However, they all still rever Bahaumet, who is LG and is not always a dragon.
They also follow Io's Charge, Io being the first primordial dragon who's death created Bahaumet and Tiamat. Io's charge is that dragons should shape the world, protect it from forces that would destroy it, inspire lesser races, and guide civilizations. Dragons, mostly metallics, take this charge very seriously abut they differ on how to accomplish it.
To answer your question, mettalics would still fight for Bahaumet and Chromatics would still fight for Tiamat. Gem dragons, like the pearl or the amber Dragon, would most likely stay out of the fight or decide what to do on a case by case basis. Evil mettalics, like the iron dragon would most likely fight apart from their other mettalic breathern, but they would still rever Bahaumet as the creater of their species, even if they believe his other followers are misguided.
To answer your question, mettalics would still fight for Bahaumet and Chromatics would still fight for Tiamat. Gem dragons, like the pearl or the amber Dragon, would most likely stay out of the fight or decide what to do on a case by case basis. Evil mettalics, like the iron dragon would most likely fight apart from their other mettalic breathern, but they would still rever Bahaumet as the creater of their species, even if they believe his other followers are misguided.
Alright, thanks! That clears things up greatly.
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Brown Dragon
This brown scaled dragon has two large spikes on it chin and a row of blade like spikes running down each flank.
Brown Dragon
CR 8 (4,800 XP)
E Large Dragon
Init: +0; Senses: Dragon Senses, Perception +17
Auras: Frightful Presence (180 ft, DC 18)
AC: 21, Touch: 9, Flat Footed: 21
(+1 dodge, +11 natural, -1 size)
hp: 105 (10d12+40)
Fort +17, Ref:+7, Will: +11
DR 5/Magic, Immune to Fire, Paralysis, and Sleep effects
Speed: 30 ft, Burrow 20 ft, Fly 120 ft (Poor)
Melee: Bite +18 (2d6+10), 2 claws +18 (1d8+7), 2 wings +13 (1d6+3), tail slap +13 (1d8+3)
Special Attacks: Breath Weapon (40 ft cone, DC 19, 10d4 slashing), Sandstorm
Str: 24, Dex: 11, Con: 19, Int: 14, Wis: 18, Cha: 16
Base Atk: +10, CMB: +18, CMD: 28
Feats: Diehard, Dodge, Endurance, Great Fortitude, Mobility
Skills: Appraise +15, Climb +20, Diplomacy +16, Intimidate +16, Knowledge (Local) +15, Perception +17, Survival +17, Use Magic Device +16
Languages: Common, Draconic, Gnoll, Goblin
Environment: Warm Desert
Organization: Solitary
Treasure: Double
Sandstorm (Su): The brown dragon can create a brief intense gust of wind 3/day. All creatures withing 30 ft of the brown dragon takes 8d6 slashing damage from flying sand and is knocked prone by the wind. A DC 19 reflex save lets a target take half damage frome the sand and avoid being knocked down.
Of all the chromatic dragons, brown dragons are the least interested in establishing kingdoms and ruling empires. Nor will you find them leading vast armies. Instead, the prefer the comforting warmth of their desert homes.
They prefer to avoid work and conflict as much as possible. When hungry they would rather raid a shepards flocks then demand tribute and run the risk of attracting adventurers. They also will selectively cull the herd to avoid having to look for another food source another time. Of course if the shepard objects he could find his entire village being destroyed as an object lesson.
The brown dragon is not unrelentingly evil, and is driven by an overwhelming need to try new things. They love to enjoy new foods, particularly ones with exotic spices. Often they will try to bite an opponent in combat, just to see how they taste. Their favorite flesh is elf flesh, but disdane dwarves as being too tough and gamey. They sometimes team with gnolls or goblins and raid travelling caravans in search of new and exotic items.
I cannot resist the urge to play this guy with the personality of a wine connoisseur. This will be fun.
Brown Dragon
This brown scaled dragon has two large spikes on it chin and a row of blade like spikes running down each flank.
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Great. I'm going to have a fight between your brown dragon and Gene's brown dragon. The winner's converter gets, what...to live? Let's make it interesting.
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Great. I'm going to have a fight between your brown dragon and Gene's brown dragon. The winner's converter gets, what...to live? Let's make it interesting.Brown Dragon
This brown scaled dragon has two large spikes on it chin and a row of blade like spikes running down each flank.
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Where is this other brown dragon you speak of.
Where is this other brown dragon you speak of.Great. I'm going to have a fight between your brown dragon and Gene's brown dragon. The winner's converter gets, what...to live? Let's make it interesting.Brown Dragon
This brown scaled dragon has two large spikes on it chin and a row of blade like spikes running down each flank.
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Here ya go.Where is this other brown dragon you speak of.Great. I'm going to have a fight between your brown dragon and Gene's brown dragon. The winner's converter gets, what...to live? Let's make it interesting.Brown Dragon
This brown scaled dragon has two large spikes on it chin and a row of blade like spikes running down each flank.
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I see that getting a lot of use at my table.
<Gene invisible photons>Pax and I slowly press Gene to convert all 4e minis to 3.5...he thinks he'll be finished, but then--No! We want them in PfRpG now! Muahahahaha[cough-cough-cough]</Gene invisible photons>
But seriously, there's a pdf with all the work to date, and feel free to makes suggestions, requests, give feedback, etc in the thread. Sometimes he sticks closer to bringing the 4e design over into 3.5, sometimes he takes suggestions from us, and sometimes he has his own unique direction that he wants to explore.
Top-tier job with these conversions, mate! Much appreciated work indeed.
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Fell Dragon
This dragon has greenish brown scales and a long serpentine neck. As it rises to take to the sky you realize that what you though were it's front legs are really wings.
N Large Dragon
CR 7 (2,400 xp)
Init: +0, Senses: Dragon Senses, Perception +13
AC: 20, Touch: 9, Flat Footed: 20
(+11 natural, -1 size)
hp: 92 (8d12+40)
Fort: +13, Ref: +10, Will: +10
DR 5/+1, Immune to Fire
Speed: 20 ft, Fly 150 ft (Clumsy)
Melee: Bite +13 (1d8+6 plus Poison), 2 claws +13 (1d6+4), tail slap +8 (1d8+2)
Space: 10 ft, Reach: 10 ft
Special Attacks: Breath Weapon (40 ft cone, DC 19, 4d8 fire), Poison
Str 19, Dex 10, Con 20, Int 4, Wis 14, Cha 10
Base Atk: +8, CMB: +13, CMD: 23
Feats: Flyby Attack, Hover, Lightning Reflexes, Lunge
Skills: Intimidate +11, Perception +13, Survival +13
Environment: Temperate forests and mountains
Organization: Solitary
Treasure: Incidental
Poison (Ex): Bite, Save Fort 19, Primary 1d4 Str, Secondary 1d4 Con
Fell dragons are not considered by many to be true dragons. In many ways they have as much in common with wyverns as they do with dragons. The truth is that they are a form of primordial dragon, a throwback that is similar to what ancient dragons were like. They are only moderately intelligent, but have a cunning wit.
Note: This is not an actual conversion, but was inspired by a program on the Discovery Channel where scientists attempted to design a scientfically plausable dragon.
Fell Dragon
Note: This is not an actual conversion, but was inspired by a program on the Discovery Channel where scientists attempted to design a scientfically plausable dragon.
Nice, very nice.
I loved that show.
Another brace of winners David. That Fell Dragon will work well in my Opal game
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Gray Dragon
This ash colored dragon has a "beard" of spikes on his chin, and a row of bony spikes along it's back and at its knee joints.
Gray Dragon
CR 10 (9,600 xp)
Init: +1, Senses: Drgon Senses, Perception +18
Auras: Aura of Fear (DC 19), Frightful Presence (180 ft, DC 20)
AC: 24, Touch: 11, Flat Footed: 23
(+1 Dex, +14 natural, -1 size)
hp: 138 (12d12+60)
Fort: +13, Ref: +9, Will: +11
DR 5/Magic, Immune to Acid, paralysis, and Sleep effects, SR 21
Speed: 40 ft, Fly 200 ft (Poor)
Melee: Bite +19 (3d6+9), 2 claw +19 (1d8+6), 2 wings +14 (1d6+3), tail slap +14 (1d8+3)
Space: 10 ft, Reach: 10 ft
Special Attacks: Breath Weapon ((80 ft stream, DC 21, 12d6 acid damage), Embrace of Stone
Str 22, Dex 12, Con 21, Int 12, Wis 16, Cha 18
Base Atk: +12, CMB: +19, CMD: 30
Feats: Cleave, Flyby Attack, Hover, Improved Natural Attack (Bite), Power Attack, Wingover
Skills:Climb +21, Intimidate +19, Knowledge (Local) +16, Perception +18, Spellcraft +16, Survival +18, Use Magical Device +19
Languages: Common, Draconic, Orc
Environemnt: Cold Mountains
Organization: Solitary
Treasure: Triple
Aura of Fear (Su): 25 ft radius, Willpower DC 19 or suffer Fear for 1d6 rounds.
Embrace of Stone (Su): Once every 1d4+1 rounds, turn to stone permanately, 40 ft, one target. Fortitude DC 20 to avoid, Save is Charisma based.
Gray Dragons are the most brutish and war-like of the chromatic dragons. Unlike other dragons, they go out of their way to hunt down and battle humanoids. They actually prefer to battle dangerous foes so as to test themselves against powerful opponents. they travel far and wide and often establish several different lairs to facilitate this. Many become so engrossed in the hunt that they will become mercenaries or bounty hunters to give them more chances to hunt and battle dangerous enemies.
Gray Dragon
This ash colored dragon has a "beard" of spikes on his chin, and a row of bony spikes along it's back and at its knee joints.
I like this one.
David, would it be possible for me to get your e-mail? I've been tinkering with the dragons for my campaign setting, and I'd like your thoughts/assistance if you were interested.
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Purple Dragon
This serpentine dragon has a large frill at the base of his skull and is covered in deep purple scales.
Purple Dragon
CR 11 (12,800 xp)
CE Large Dragon
Init: +4, Senses: Dragon Senses, Perception +20
Aura: Frightful Presnce (180 ft, DC 23)
AC 25, Touch 13, Flat-footed: 21
(+4 Dex, +12 natural, -1 size)
hp: 123 (13d12+39)
Fort: +11, Ref: +12, Will: +12
DR 5/Magic, Immune to Acid, Paralysis, and Sleep effects
Speed: 35ft, Fly 20 (Poor)
Melee: Bite +17 (2d6+4), 2 claw +17 (1d8+3), 2 wing +12 (1d6+1), Tail slap +12 (1d8+1)
Space: 10 ft, Rech: 10 ft
Special Attacks: Breath Weapon (40 ft cloud, DC 19, 12d6 acid)
Spell-like Abilities: 2/day-Nightmares (DC 22)
3/day- Dominte Person (DC 22)
At-will: Spiderclimb
Str 16, Dex 19, Con 16, Int 17, Wis 18, Ch 24
Base Atk: +13, CMB: +17, CMD: 31
Feats: Acrobatic Steps, Blind Fight, Combat Expertise, Combat Reflexes, Diehard, Endurance, Nimble Moves
Skills: Climb +19, Diplomacy +23, Disable Device +17, Intimidate +23, Knowledg (Dungeoneering) +19, Knowledge (Geography) +19, Perception +20, Spellcraft +19, Use Magic Device +23
Environment Underground
Organization: Solitary
Treasure: Triple
Purple dragons are the greatest explorers among dragonkind. They are also born hunters, andmake up for the relative weakness by being master manipulators. They love to explore the reaches of th Darklands, sarching for cavarens and mysteries never seen by sentient eyes. In fact, purple dragons are only rarely seen above ground. They love company and are particularly fond of drow. They often learn spells or seek magical items that allow them to walk among drow unnoticed, and more than one drow noble house has purple dagon blood in their family tree.
I like the purple dragon flavor. How much of there conception is yours, and how much are you depending on 4e, out of curiousity?
I have no idea, I've never seen the purple dragon, so I have no idea how much of your version is original and how much is adaptation from your new Draconomicon -- I just wanted some sense.
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Mithril Dragon
The regal looking dragon has an array of horns that almost look like an emperor's crown and another row of spines running down it's back.
Mithril Dragon
CR 15 (51,200 xp)
LG Large Dragon
Init: +12, Senses: Dragon Senses, Perception: +31
Aura: Frightful Presence (DC 24)
AC: 30, Touch: 17, Flat Footed 23
(+8 Dex, +14 natural, -1 size)
hp: 225 (18d12+108)
Fort: +17, Ref: +19, Will: +17
DR 5/Magic, Immune to Fire, Paralysis, and Sleep effects, SR 26
Speed:40 ft, Fly 200 ft (Poor)
Melee: Bite +25 (2d6+9), 2 claw +25 (1d8+6), 2 wing +20 (1d6+3), Tail slap +20 (1d8+3)
Space: 10 ft, Reach: 10 ft
Special Attackes: Breath Weapon (80 ft stream, DC 25, 12d10 fire)
Spell-like Abilities: 1/day-Greater Teleport
3/day-Teleport
Str 22, Dex 27, Con 22, Int 15, Wis 22, Cha 20
Base Atk: +18, CMB: +25, CMD: 41
Feats: Alertness, Bleeding Critical, Cleave, Critical Focuse, Endurance, Great Cleave, Improved Initative, Power Attack, Sickening Critical
Skills: Bluff +26, Diplomacy +26, Knowledge (Arcana) +23, Knowledge (Local) +23, Knowledge (Religion) +23, Perception +31, Sense Motive +8, Spell Craft +23, Use Magic Device +26
Languages: Common, Draconic, Celestial
SQ: Precognition
Environment: Temperate Hills and Forests
Organization: Solitary, Pair, Conclave (3-8)
Treasure: Triple
Precognition (Su): Three times per day as a full round action, the mithral dragon can peer into the future. For the next minute it gains a +2 insight bonus that may be added to attack or damage rolls, armor class, or saving throws. The mithral dragon decides what it will use it for at the start of it's turn and the bonus may only be used once per round.
Mithril dragons consider themselves to servents of the divine. There seems to be some truth to this belief as they gain divine spells while all other dragons gain arcane spells. They are whole dedicated to the cause of good and are single minded in their pursuit. Only the word of a deity can sway them once they have set their mind to something, and even then it must be a diety the dragon respects.
Some mithral dragons also establish themselves as guardians of sacred places. They protect and preserve holy shrines and sacred groves with single minded devotion. Such dragons are reclusive, only showing themselves to mortals only when their charges are threatened.
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I have no idea, I've never seen the purple dragon, so I have no idea how much of your version is original and how much is adaptation from your new Draconomicon -- I just wanted some sense.
Well first off, you most likely have seen the purple dragon before. In previous editions it was called the deep dragon. Some of the 4E stuff is introduced in my work, but the two editions are so disimilar that there is a lot of my own work in there. Essentially the only things that get carried over are the breath weapon and special abilities. Everything else is my own work, although I try to preserve the flavor of the dragon as much as possible. Thus a lot of the flavor text is inspired by the Draconomicons, but is still my own work in the final product.
Ah, I see, the deep dragon! Well, it would have helped if I hadn't misread the breathe weapon, but the difference in special abilities from the deep dragon particularly threw me. I wonder why they thought Purple Dragon was a better name than Deep Dragon. Is there just an overriding principle of coloration naming?
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Ah, I see, the deep dragon! Well, it would have helped if I hadn't misread the breathe weapon, but the difference in special abilities from the deep dragon particularly threw me. I wonder why they thought Purple Dragon was a better name than Deep Dragon. Is there just an overriding principle of coloration naming?
It was to expand the chromatics. The brown dragon was originally the sand dragon and the gray dragon was originally the fang dragon.
Yeah, for my money, the name changes were reversals of fortune.
This may be a little girly for some... but why aren't there purple dragons? Or I'd especially like a crystal dragon.
This may be a little girly for some... but why aren't there purple dragons? Or I'd especially like a crystal dragon.
Oh sorry, apparently there is a purple dragon... which I never heard of. But again, what about a crystal dragon? Crystals are an important part of the elemental world.
This may be a little girly for some... but why aren't there purple dragons? Or I'd especially like a crystal dragon.Oh sorry, apparently there is a purple dragon... which I never heard of. But again, what about a crystal dragon? Crytals are an important part of the elemental world.
Oh, you mean like the Gem Dragons from the Monster Manual 2(3.5 edition)? Of course, they're never really used because they use the 3.0 Psionics rules, which are known to cause heads to explode.
This may be a little girly for some... but why aren't there purple dragons? Or I'd especially like a crystal dragon.
Have some fella buy you an amethyst dragon.
DEMMIT ninja'd by His Eccentricness.
Mairkurion & Davi, well the gem/amethyst dragon sounds fine and dandy, but it would be great if there was a non-Psionic Crystal Dragon for PF Bestiary II. ^^
I declare a contest between David and Gene! Non-psionic versions of amethyst dragons to the death! (I keep trying to see if something will come of it.)
I declare a contest between David and Gene! Non-psionic versions of amethyst dragons to the death! (I keep trying to see if something will come of it.)
Heck, I'd settle for versions that used a version of psionics that was actually somewhat balanced.
I declare a contest between David and Gene! Non-psionic versions of amethyst dragons to the death! (I keep trying to see if something will come of it.)
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Let the contest begin!
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I declare a contest between David and Gene! Non-psionic versions of amethyst dragons to the death! (I keep trying to see if something will come of it.)
Clarification requested: Whole twelve age category progression or just a single type of amethyst dragon?
Also: how true to previous versions should we stick?
I declare a contest between David and Gene! Non-psionic versions of amethyst dragons to the death! (I keep trying to see if something will come of it.)Clarification requested: Whole twelve age category progression or just a single type of amethyst dragon?
For convenience's sake, let's say just one age category. You can always come up with the other stuff for age categories later.
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For convenience's sake, let's say just one age category. You can always come up with the other stuff for age categories later.
*gets crackin'*
David, do you mind if I post mine in this thread as well? I figure if we both do one folks can get double the goodness. I'm going to do an adult amethyst dragon and have it sitting at CR 12.
For convenience's sake, let's say just one age category. You can always come up with the other stuff for age categories later.*gets crackin'*
David, do you mind if I post mine in this thread as well? I figure if we both do one folks can get double the goodness. I'm going to do an adult amethyst dragon and have it sitting at CR 12.
THX! I'd just ignore Psionics if I were you, and a lower CR version would be sweet, then I can actaully get the DM (my boyfriend) to use it, since both my campaigns are really young still.