Murderer makes headway in suit against hostage
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"Now Durham is going after Chambers again, only without a gun and with a lawsuit. Durham is even demanding reimbursement for his travel expenses from New York - for the trip he took to gun down Chambers' friend."
Murderer makes headway in suit against hostage
WTF
"Now Durham is going after Chambers again, only without a gun and with a lawsuit. Durham is even demanding reimbursement for his travel expenses from New York - for the trip he took to gun down Chambers' friend."
Maybe he should have refunded the guy...
I remember hearing about this guy, he's the one who agreed to a plea deal in order to get some ice cream and fried chicken and other fast foods. What a weirdo.
*sigh*
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The article does not state it explicitly but the suit seems to be over a business contract. Of course, I could be misinterpreting things. If the dispute is not over the crime but whether the truck-dealer owes money to the scumbag there could be a case. The fact that mr. scumbag murdered someone and took the other guy hostage over the business deal does not invalidate the dispute necessarily. Of course there is no information that mr. scumbag is has a valid claim. Probably it is just all in his head.
I would give the article a D minus for content.
I agree. It seems written to elicit the "that is so messed up" comment. I'm sure that many of us would agree that access to legal recourse cannot be denied to convicts. Unfortunately, some criminals will use the courts to further harass their victims.
Holy crap! I can't believe a judge is actually allowing this to happen. What happened to justice?Lawyers.
No, it should be "Lawers who have sold their souls to the forces of darkness (or who never possessed them in the first place)".
Edit: Ninjaed by the angel!!
I agree that if he has a valid case he is entitled to his suit. All that the article does mention is that he wanted a refund. Considering his actions to this point (murder, plea bargain for fried chicken and ice cream) I am leaning toward he just isn't happy he did not get what he wanted.
Ah. I did not know he did not receive the truck. That does change things.
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I heard on the radio that Robers (murderer) paid Chambers (hostage) $18,000 for a truck and that Chambers never provided the truck. Robers' suit is valid. However, Roberts seems to have a more valuable suit against Roberts due to having been assaulted and held hostage. Any judgment that Roberts might get would likely just go back to Chambers for his suit.
The way the article is written he decided he did not want the truck when the defendent tried to deliver it to him.
A man convicted of murder is now targeting one of his victims again, and he's winning in court.
An Oregon inmate who killed one man in 2006 is now suing his former hostage.
It all started over an $18,000 order for an ice cream truck.
The hostage victim, Rob Chambers, used to build ice cream trucks and he built one for a customer in New York. That customer turned into a killer, deciding to commit murder when he couldn't get a refund.
refund be hanged an inoccent man DIED!! there is no excuse, no reason, no explanation that can possibly excuse that.
I am saddened for the victims family and I am so outraged that this sick murdering lowlife isnt in the electric chair already.
If he didnt value a human life over something as trivial as green paper then how can we as a society value him.
I am not trying to thread jack about the death penalty but I had to get that out.
I realise that we as RPG'ers do harmless fantasy killing type stuff but in the real world the instant some one thinks that Human Life= money, then that person is a danger to us all.
refund be hanged an inoccent man DIED!! there is no excuse, no reason, no explanation that can possibly excuse that.
I am saddened for the victims family and I am so outraged that this sick murdering lowlife isnt in the electric chair already.
If he didnt value a human life over something as trivial as green paper then how can we as a society value him.
I am not trying to thread jack about the death penalty but I had to get that out.I realise that we as RPG'ers do harmless fantasy killing type stuff but in the real world the instant some one thinks that Human Life= money, then that person is a danger to us all.
I agree the guy shouldn't have did what he did but the civil side has nothing to do with the criminal side. The "hostage" should have to pay him back if that is what the law requires... just like the other guy should go to prison or whatever the courts see fit.
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Yes, but even in the dispationate world, I can't imagine that you demand restitution for the money you spent to travel to try and kill the man. Even if you believe he deserves a refund of his money for the truck, does anyone believe he should be able to sue the man he intended to kill for the money he spent in a fail attempt to kill him?
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Yes, but even in the dispationate world, I can't imagine that you demand restitution for the money you spent to travel to try and kill the man. Even if you believe he deserves a refund of his money for the truck, does anyone believe he should be able to sue the man he intended to kill for the money he spent in a fail attempt to kill him?
Nope. He should never get money for that.
Sadly, this case, I think, highlights the difference between law and justice.
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Yes, but even in the dispationate world, I can't imagine that you demand restitution for the money you spent to travel to try and kill the man. Even if you believe he deserves a refund of his money for the truck, does anyone believe he should be able to sue the man he intended to kill for the money he spent in a fail attempt to kill him?
Agreed. I don't know what the deal is with the refund, and whether one is merited, but you don't get to sue someone for the expenses you incurred while going on a murderous rampage. The hostage should countersue for damages as a result of unlawful imprisonment and anything else he can come up with.