| Dosgamer |
Along those lines, is it possible to sneak attack as part of an attack of opportunity? We had a situation come up this past session where the PC rogue made a successful stealth check against the NPC orc. Said orc later moved past the stealthed rogue who took a sneak attack against the orc as her AoO and took out the orc with a solid shot.
Ruling (by me) was the orc didn't know the rogue was there due to stealth, so sneak attack seemed feasible. If the rogue was just in plain sight, then no sneak attack. Thoughts? Thanks!
| Rezdave |
the orc didn't know the rogue was there due to stealth, so sneak attack seemed feasible. If the rogue was just in plain sight, then no sneak attack. Thoughts? Thanks!
Whether or not the orc knows the Rogue is there is irrelevant. Whether the attack is a Standard, Full, Melee or Ranged attack is irrelevant. Regular Action or AoO is irrelevant.
If the attack conditions permit Sneak Attack damage then the damage is dealt. If the orc moves out of a square that is threatened by the Rogue but he is also flanked in that square, then he provokes an AoO that deals Sneak Attack damage even if he knows the Rogue is there. If he doesn't know the Rogue is there and is surprised (and thus flat-footed with respect to the Rogue), then he takes the damage. If any other condition allows for SA damage, then it is dealt.
FWIW,
Rez
| Dosgamer |
If the attack conditions permit Sneak Attack damage then the damage is dealt. If the orc moves out of a square that is threatened by the Rogue but he is also flanked in that square, then he provokes an AoO that deals Sneak Attack damage even if he knows the Rogue is there. If he doesn't know the Rogue is there and is surprised (and thus flat-footed with respect to the Rogue), then he takes the damage. If any other condition allows for SA damage, then it is dealt.
FWIW,
Rez
Yep, that's what I thought as well. The players seemed a little surprised that you could sneak attack as part of an AoO, but a sneak attack is a melee attack plain and simple. Thanks!
P.S. I just saw the other thread farther down about making sneak attacks from stealth. Good stuff!
| Quandary |
Yes, you can Trip/Disarm as AoO.
Shield Bashes and Barbarian Knockback also allow Bullrushing as an AoO.
I had been under the impression (from the Playtest) that Trip/Disarm AoO's were only possible if you have the Improved X Feats (with the idea that AoO's themselves provoking an AoO is disruptive to game-flow), but I can't find any rule about that in the final rules, so I guess there isn't any such limitation.
| Rezdave |
I had been under the impression (from the Playtest) that Trip/Disarm AoO's were only possible if you have the Improved X Feats (with the idea that AoO's themselves provoking an AoO is disruptive to game-flow)
Granted, it's 3.x rules, but read the follow article from Wizard's excellent Rules of the Game column.
Look about 2/3rds of the way down for a section titled "Attack of Opportunity Chains".
R.