| Kor - Orc Scrollkeeper |
A cleric of a lawful good deity radiates an aura of Law and Good. I'm curious though why a paladin of a LG deity (especially Iomedae) would not also radiate a Lawful aura? I will probably house rule this one anyways, but I was wondering if there was a reason that a Paladin only radiates a Good aura?
| Vult Wrathblades |
A cleric of a lawful good deity radiates an aura of Law and Good. I'm curious though why a paladin of a LG deity (especially Iomedae) would not also radiate a Lawful aura? I will probably house rule this one anyways, but I was wondering if there was a reason that a Paladin only radiates a Good aura?
I would have to agree with you here. He should radiate law as well.
I think the reasoning behind it may have something to do with some wanting to argue that smite evil should also function as smite chaos. There is enough talk about the paladin being OP, if he could also smite chaos then people might start spontaneously combusting or something.
TriOmegaZero
|
Why so serious bro?
Quote:Aura (Ex): A cleric of a chaotic, evil, good, or lawful deity
has a particularly powerful aura corresponding to the
deity’s alignment (see the detect evil spell for details).Quote:Aura of Good (Ex): The power of a paladin’s aura of good
(see the detect good spell) is equal to her paladin level.Actually, it says nothing about paladins getting their aura from a deity. Paladins are just devoted to good more. And actually, it looks like a cleric without a deity wouldn't have an aura, while a paladin would still have a good aura. It is called Aura of Good after all.
I didn't say you weren't making sense. Just that this is why it is so.
| Kor - Orc Scrollkeeper |
Why so serious bro?
I deleted the referenced post about 10 seconds after I posted it, as I didn't want to start a flame war.
RE: "Because a cleric's aura reflects his deity, and paladins reflect good?"
When you answer someone's question with a simple non-explanatory question, it can infer that you are trying to belittle someone's query, trying to make a joke out of it while bolstering your own ego. (Sadly, it is not an uncommon event in these forums).
If this was not your intent, I could then understand why you were confused at my reaction. In this second post, you took the time to explain your opinion and made some good points. Thank you.
This also got me thinking, that nowhere is there mention that a paladin's deity must either be good, or be within one step of the deity's alignment. This I think supports that the "aura" is not linked to the deity's alignment. For some reason I thought paladins could only worship good gods. I guess this means that a paladin could be serving the faith of a LN deity, yet serving their own cause to promote good.
Thanks for your help.
TriOmegaZero
|
This also got me thinking, that nowhere is there mention that a paladin's deity must either be good, or be within one step of the deity's alignment. This I think supports that the "aura" is not linked to the deity's alignment. For some reason I thought paladins could only worship good gods. I guess this means that a paladin could be serving the faith of a LN deity, yet serving their own cause to promote good.
Thanks for your help.
Hey, that is something I never noticed myself. Almost enough to argue for paladins of Cayden there... XD
| Kor - Orc Scrollkeeper |
Yeah, that was my bad. It was really just meant to be a silly little response, since I really didn't see any reason for the paladin NOT to radiate Law. I could have quantified it more in the first post, like it did in the second.
No worries. I think I was just over sensitive because I was reading another thread yesterday where someone asked a bona fide question, where a couple people (including a Paizo staff member) belittled the poster's inquiry. I'm happy to say that some forum members were quick to point out the validity of the question, but when Paizo staff start participating in such behavior, then I do become a little concerned. Anyways, I'm way off topic in my own thread now :)
TriOmegaZero
|
Bah, it's your topic, and you'll off if you want to! *winces* Okay, sorry, that was bad. I'm still posting it.
And you were justified, I can't deny I've done that intentionally more than I should. Sometimes you just feel fiesty, especially over certain topics... (paladins, heavy armor, two-handed weapons)
| A Man In Black RPG Superstar 2010 Top 32 |
Because paladins are lawful people who are supernaturally good.
Clerics have a whole set of anti-whatever-they-aren't class abilities (almost all of them spells), so a cleric of Lawfulgoodnik is as likely to specialize in fighting Slaad as Demons.
On the other hand, paladins Smite Evil, they have anti-evil spells, their signature weapon is holy, their mount approximates Celestial and not Axiomatic. RAW a chaotic act doesn't break their code of conduct; only an evil act or enough chaotic acts to constitute an alightment shift.
Paladins of Lawfulgoodnik are no more specialized as lawful exemplars than a monk or fighter of Lawfulgoodnik.
This is, admittedly, RAW. If you want to add more of a lawful emphasis to their abilities or concept, a lawful aura is perfectly reasonable and has near-zero game balance impact.
| Darrien RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 |
Perhaps it is a simple as this; a paladin's supernatural abilities are all based on the character being a paragon of goodness. There is no requirement to worship a god within one alignment step, as a cleric must, paladins just serves virtuous deities.
One could argue the paladin simply based on abilities, and fluff, should be Neutral Good, true Good, excepting that they adhere to ironclad laws of morality and discipline.
So in my opinion, a paladin is mechanically a good character, and has that aura, but role-play wise is a lawful character.
| Nero24200 |
Paladins are more "Anti-Evil" than they are "Anti-Chaos", that's why they gain smite evil, detect evil, and can work alongside chaotic characters but not evil (at least, not Pre-PFRPG).
Paladins gain their aura because they're meant to be the epitome of good, so a good aura fits. Although lawful, they aren't meant to be the epitome of law, so a lawful aura is less fitting.