There are 4 kinds of servitor Daemons
Leuko-
Purro-
Thano-
Mela-
As far as I can tell those are coming from ancient greek, but i cannot tell there meaning.
Greetz
Ganzir
"leuko-" means "white".
"thanato-" means "death".
"melan-" means "black".
I don't know what "purro-" is supposed to mean. Maybe "pus"?
I don't know the Greek, but I remember reading here that it was 'war' or 'destruction' or something else tied to Szuriel's Horsemanship.
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We've linked daemons to death. In particular, these four types of daemon represent the four Horsemen... four classic routes to death.
Leukodaemon = daemon associated with death via disease or sickness.
Purrodaemon = daemon associated with death via warfare or battle.
Thanodaemon = daemon associated with death via old age or natural causes. (this daemon is the same as the Tome of Horrors' Charonadaemon)
Meladaemon = daemon associated with death via starvation or thirst.
As we go on, we'll certainly be adding more daemons to the list. We've already done one more in "The Great Beyond":
Astradaemon = daemon associated with death via negative energy.
Additionally, more daemons exist in the Tome of Horrors, and we'll eventually be converting them to Pathfinder RPG as follows (note! We haven't 100% nailed down how these ones will convert over so these brief descriptions are subject to change):
Derghodaemon = daemon associated with death by violent insanity
Hydrodaemon = daemon associated with death by drowning
Piscodaemon = daemon associated with death by poisoning and/or bleeding to death or dismemberment
We've got other plans for the Tome of Horrors' cacodaemon... (insert evil laughter)
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James... will there be a Chronicles book on Daemons too ? I assume that a demon book will follow the devil one, but ya know, doing Glabrezus or Ice Devils for zillionth time gets slowly passe, we the masses need somebody who will try to kill us without any philosophy attached :)
That'd be cool, wouldn't it?
After all, "Princes of Darkness" bears the subtitle "Book of the Damned, Volume 1." We wouldn't do that unless we wanted it to be a series. And we wouldn't do a series unless we were going to at least do three in the series, yeah?
Would folks be interested in more books in this series? (Even though the first one's not even out yet?)
(Also, what Wes did with devils in "Princes of Darkness" is, I think, anything but passe. It's pretty cool. EASILLY my favorite book on the subject of RPG devils yet!)
Would folks be interested in more books in this series? (Even though the first one's not even out yet?)
(Also, what Wes did with devils in "Princes of Darkness" is, I think, anything but passe. It's pretty cool. EASILLY my favorite book on the subject of RPG devils yet!)
I personally would buy the entire series. If this is a poll for interest count me very interested. Can't wait to get my monkey paws on Wes' take on devils ...
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Would folks be interested in more books in this series? (Even though the first one's not even out yet?)
Uh, yeah! I'd like to see the evil trilogy followed up by the good trilogy, outlining archons, azata, and agathions. "Angelic Hosts, volumes 1-3" or something like that. How you'd make a series of the morally neutral planes I dunno.
How you'd make a series of the morally neutral planes I dunno.
THE MODRON HOSTS VOLUMES 1-3! SQUEE! Uh , what's this?
Reads paper hastily handed to him. Frowns.
Oh right ... Oh well, guess no Modrons then, dammit. ..
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Would folks be interested in more books in this series? (Even though the first one's not even out yet?)Uh, yeah! I'd like to see the evil trilogy followed up by the good trilogy, outlining archons, azata, and agathions. "Angelic Hosts, volumes 1-3" or something like that. How you'd make a series of the morally neutral planes I dunno.
For the neutral planes, we've actually got more interesting races, I think, than for the good planes... and I'm pretty keen on those good plane races (particulalry the azatas).
LN: Inevitables
CN: Proteans
N: TO BE ANOUNCED
I'm actually really quite pleased with what's building for our neutral race.
I'm all in for any fiendish books of any alignment flavor. I'm also interested in the other "alignment" outsiders as well. I trust Paizo's idea machine when it comes to story and background.
Chime me in for outsider books! I love outsiders!
Daemon book would be an instant addition to my collection!
Me too. I've long been a fan of the Nine Hells and of Planescape in general :D
Would folks be interested in more books in this series? (Even though the first one's not even out yet?)
Sure thing: something that makes my bookshelf looks more encyclopedial is always welcome....and since James is asking I guess we can hope for his involvement in the production of the titles in question.
When I think back to
"Lords of Madness"
"Hordes of the Abyss"
"Fiend Folio"
it is save to say, with Mr. Jacobs' you are guarantied some very good reading.
By the way I think it is a really awesome thing, that authors themselves are posting in this forum. I mean in which other community do I look behind myself to my bookshelf and then look back to the screen to engage in conversation with the very person who wrote or at least in part participated in the production of the book I am just reading?!
Greetz
Ganzir
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James... will there be a Chronicles book on Daemons too ? I assume that a demon book will follow the devil one, but ya know, doing Glabrezus or Ice Devils for zillionth time gets slowly passe, we the masses need somebody who will try to kill us without any philosophy attached :)That'd be cool, wouldn't it?
After all, "Princes of Darkness" bears the subtitle "Book of the Damned, Volume 1." We wouldn't do that unless we wanted it to be a series. And we wouldn't do a series unless we were going to at least do three in the series, yeah?
Would folks be interested in more books in this series? (Even though the first one's not even out yet?)
(Also, what Wes did with devils in "Princes of Darkness" is, I think, anything but passe. It's pretty cool. EASILLY my favorite book on the subject of RPG devils yet!)
Hell yes, no pun intended. In fact I would be very disappointed if their was not a full three book series of the Book of the Damned Chronicles book.
I'd definitely be interested in seeing material for all the different outsiders (good and neutral, as well as evil) but I noticed something a bit odd: the categories of all the listed good outsiders start with an A (Angel, Archon, Agathion and Azata) and all of the categories of evil outsiders start with a D (Devil, Daemon, Demon). Was this intentional and if so, what D name would potentially be given to evils counterpart of the Angels, if there ever is any?
Edit: seeing Jacobs response I'm actually GLAD there won't be an evil counterpart to the Angels, I like the forces of good having one more branch to help deal with any sort of evil that arises.
Uh, yeah! I'd like to see the evil trilogy followed up by the good trilogy, outlining archons, azata, and agathions. "Angelic Hosts, volumes 1-3" or something like that. How you'd make a series of the morally neutral planes I dunno.
The celestials would do well with a more in-depth treatment, which for most of D&D's history they've never truly received. However it might take presenting them in a way that doesn't make people think of goodie goodie boring outsiders, or the care-bears. I certainly think it's possible.
As for the morally neutral planes, a book covering the proteans and the axiomites would be awesome, either one each, or presenting both races in the context of their conflict versus one another (which is much more open and active than anything for instance ever presented for the modrons and slaad in Planescape). And for the LN side of things, you've got the split between the axiomites, the two major types of formians, and the inevitables, so quite a bit of variety within the exemplars of Law (though technically the inevitables are constructs rather than outsiders).
And for the TNs, well they're something of an open mystery at this point. Pharasma's spire might predate her arrival, and there are ruins associated with the region surrounding the Boneyard, and suggestions of a prior pantheon of which Groetus was part of. So who were they, what did they represent, and what happened to them? Fun topic to explore.
We've got other plans for the Tome of Horrors' cacodaemon... (insert evil laughter)
[orbital mind control laser] You will aim or email me your evil awesome ideas! [/orbital mind control laser]
;)
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I'd definitely be interested in seeing material for all the different outsiders (good and neutral, as well as evil) but I noticed something a bit odd: the categories of all the listed good outsiders start with an A (Angel, Archon, Agathion and Azata) and all of the categories of evil outsiders start with a D (Devil, Daemon, Demon). Was this intentional and if so, what D name would potentially be given to evils counterpart of the Angels, if there ever is any?
Yeah, this is indeed weird. We noticed this a while back when we were having a big "What races live on our outer planes" talk here at Paizo, and that's why we decided to go with the slight corruption of the word Yazata into "Azata" for the CG race, simply to keep that pattern going.
As for an evil version of angels... I doubt we'll be doing that, actually. Mostly because we like the idea of the good guys having a category of outsider race that DOESN'T have an evil counterpart. It helps to throw a wrench into the symmetry of it all.
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Would folks be interested in more books in this series? (Even though the first one's not even out yet?)
Well, since certain among your crew did The Fiendish Codex I: Hordes of the Abyss, as well as Green Ronin's Book of Fiends,...
hells yeah!I peruse those every time somebody goes up a level, to see what I can slam them with.
I'd definitely be interested in seeing material for all the different outsiders (good and neutral, as well as evil) but I noticed something a bit odd: the categories of all the listed good outsiders start with an A (Angel, Archon, Agathion and Azata) and all of the categories of evil outsiders start with a D (Devil, Daemon, Demon). Was this intentional and if so, what D name would potentially be given to evils counterpart of the Angels, if there ever is any?Yeah, this is indeed weird. We noticed this a while back when we were having a big "What races live on our outer planes" talk here at Paizo, and that's why we decided to go with the slight corruption of the word Yazata into "Azata" for the CG race, simply to keep that pattern going.
It extends to the Aasimar.
And Demodand (not really used nowadays).As for an evil version of angels... I doubt we'll be doing that, actually. Mostly because we like the idea of the good guys having a category of outsider race that DOESN'T have an evil counterpart. It helps to throw a wrench into the symmetry of it all.
Yes, for once, and it also show that despite rumors, all purity doesn't have to be corrupted. Or just cannot.
I never liked the "anti-things", such as anti-solar (don't ask), black licorns... I don't think every good creature needs a corrupted version.Some yes, but not all, it becomes redundant, boring and the dichotomy of good & evil loses all its sense. But that's personal.
We've got other plans for the Tome of Horrors' cacodaemon... (insert evil laughter)
Cacaodaemon = death by chocolate!
I just made a PC(teifling) named Abbadon, strange.
That is all.
I absolutely would buy all 9 books in this series (covering each alignment's iconic races)!
I think Paizo should greenlight the whole series at a faster pace than you might currently envision, too. There's a lot of Planescape fans among your fans. Don't make us wait years and years for this stuff!
You could also cover the 3 good & neutral alignments in one large book. In fact, I think this would be a safer sales strategy. We all know the 3 evil alignment books will sell well, but it's an open question if the others--sold individually--would do as well. So package deals might work best for them. Of course, this also serves my strategy of getting this material sooner rather than later, but I assure you my point remained objective ;-)
EDIT: 1 book for the good races, 1 book for the neutral races.
I'm actually really quite pleased with what's building for our neutral race.
do tell
Don't forget the Dieflings.
Tieflings and Aasimar are the half-Elves of the Multiverse - they don't fit in anywhere, they're unusual enough to stick out like a sore thumb and they're not full-souled Outsiders.
Purrodaemon = daemon associated with death via warfare or battle.
Oh...
Darn, I was running it as though it was a daemon associated with death via cat. (Think "successful trip attack on the edge of Pharasma's Spire.")
We've got other plans for the Tome of Horrors' cacodaemon... (insert evil laughter)
Death by undercharged BFG-9000?
