Alternative Payment Methods

[David Fryer]

I could not help but notice that the web store is only set up to accept credit cards and debit cards. Now this did not used to be a problem for me, but I just changed banks ad decided to go strictly with savings so that I never end up spending more money than I have. Could we possibly get the options to do electronic funds transfer or pay pal? It would make it so I could start buying from you guys again.

[Cpt_kirstov]

from the FAQ:

"Can I use PayPal?

Not directly, but PayPal has a "Secure Card" program that lets US customers create single-use or multiple-use MasterCard numbers that function just like a MasterCard from our side, but draw from your PayPal account on your side. See PayPal's site for details. (If you're setting up a subscription, please provide a multiple-use account number.)"

[tburke0]

Cpt_kirstov wrote:

from the FAQ:

"Can I use PayPal?

Not directly, but PayPal has a "Secure Card" program that lets US customers create single-use or multiple-use MasterCard numbers that function just like a MasterCard from our side, but draw from your PayPal account on your side. See PayPal's site for details. (If you're setting up a subscription, please provide a multiple-use account number.)"

Secure Cards (aka: PayPal Plug-In) are discontinued... :( See here

They're pushing the PayPal(GE Credit) MasterCard, but I don't need another credit card, I need a way to convert smurfs and porcelain knick-knacks to paizo pdf's... :)

Please reconsider the PayPal option... TYVM

EDIT: smurfing smurf! I has avatar?

[Skeld]

tburke0 wrote:

Secure Cards (aka: PayPal Plug-In) are discontinued... :( See here

They're pushing the PayPal(GE Credit) MasterCard, but I don't need another credit card, I need a way to convert smurfs and porcelain knick-knacks to paizo pdf's... :)

Please reconsider the PayPal option... TYVM

EDIT: smurfing smurf! I has avatar?

Have you tried using a pre-paid credit card? It's kinda like a Visa-branded gift card that can be used anywhere (more or less). I got one as a birthday gift a while back and used it at Paizo with no problems.

-Skeld

[Vic Wertz]

tburke0 wrote:

Secure Cards (aka: PayPal Plug-In) are discontinued... :( See here

Well, that link certainly takes you to a page that says that... but it's wrong.

I can't provide a direct link, but if you log in to your PayPal account, on the main page, you'll see a "PayPal Plug-In" link under the heading "My Account Tools." Once that page loads, click on "Secure Cards." You'll be able to generate a MasterCard number from there.

[Marc Radle]

As others have said, just get a Visa gift card. You can get them at any grocery store and they work just fine at Paizo's store or any other site

[Andrew Betts]

I did a little searching around and evidently if you already have the Secure Card plugin installed on your computer you can still use it, but if you don't have it already or have to reinstall your computer you're out of luck.

[Vic Wertz]

Andrew Betts wrote:

I did a little searching around and evidently if you already have the Secure Card plugin installed on your computer you can still use it, but if you don't have it already or have to reinstall your computer you're out of luck.

You don't need the plug-in to generate a PayPal Secure Card number. Heck—it's never even been available for Macs, but I have created and successfully used PayPal Secure Card numbers via the method I posted above. PayPal's explanation of the whole thing is inconsistent at best, and just plain wrong in places, but it really does work.

[tburke0]

Vic Wertz wrote:

I can't provide a direct link, but if you log in to your PayPal account, on the main page, you'll see a "PayPal Plug-In" link under the heading "My Account Tools." Once that page loads, click on "Secure Cards." You'll be able to generate a MasterCard number from there.

I've searched all the links on my main account page and I don't have the "My Account Tools" link. It may be that I only have a Personal Account Type. Looks like there is a MC debit card available for the Premier or Business accounts but IDK what's involved in that upgrade...

[Vic Wertz]

tburke0 wrote:

Vic Wertz wrote:

I can't provide a direct link, but if you log in to your PayPal account, on the main page, you'll see a "PayPal Plug-In" link under the heading "My Account Tools." Once that page loads, click on "Secure Cards." You'll be able to generate a MasterCard number from there.

I've searched all the links on my main account page and I don't have the "My Account Tools" link. It may be that I only have a Personal Account Type. Looks like there is a MC debit card available for the Premier or Business accounts but IDK what's involved in that upgrade...

Hmm. Maybe you have to enable it before it appears there. If you click on Profile, and select "More Options," do you see "PayPal Plug-In" under the "Financial Information" heading?

[Andrew Betts]

Vic Wertz wrote:

tburke0 wrote:

Vic Wertz wrote:

I can't provide a direct link, but if you log in to your PayPal account, on the main page, you'll see a "PayPal Plug-In" link under the heading "My Account Tools." Once that page loads, click on "Secure Cards." You'll be able to generate a MasterCard number from there.

I've searched all the links on my main account page and I don't have the "My Account Tools" link. It may be that I only have a Personal Account Type. Looks like there is a MC debit card available for the Premier or Business accounts but IDK what's involved in that upgrade...

Hmm. Maybe you have to enable it before it appears there. If you click on Profile, and select "More Options," do you see "PayPal Plug-In" under the "Financial Information" heading?

Not for me, got nothing there

[Vic Wertz]

Andrew Betts wrote:

Vic Wertz wrote:

tburke0 wrote:

Vic Wertz wrote:

I can't provide a direct link, but if you log in to your PayPal account, on the main page, you'll see a "PayPal Plug-In" link under the heading "My Account Tools." Once that page loads, click on "Secure Cards." You'll be able to generate a MasterCard number from there.

I've searched all the links on my main account page and I don't have the "My Account Tools" link. It may be that I only have a Personal Account Type. Looks like there is a MC debit card available for the Premier or Business accounts but IDK what's involved in that upgrade...

Hmm. Maybe you have to enable it before it appears there. If you click on Profile, and select "More Options," do you see "PayPal Plug-In" under the "Financial Information" heading?

Not for me, got nothing there

Hmm. I can even download the Windows-only PayPal Plug-In that I can't even use. Does this link work for you?

I did find this set of instructions from them for generating Secure Cards without the plug-in:

1 Log in to PayPal and select PayPal Plug-In (under Tools on the left side of the page).
2 Click Enable Now under the Secure Cards icon on the plug-in home page if you haven’t already enabled Secure Cards.:
3 Under PayPal Plug-In on the left side of the page, select Secure Cards.
4 Click Generate a new card. When it appears, copy the card number, expiration date, and CVC2 code so you can enter that information during checkout.
5 Go shopping. During checkout, enter your Secure Card information in the credit card fields.

[Paul Ryan]

I try to avoid using Paypal, but I seem to recall seeing that that plugin is restricted to users in the US only. If my memory is right, then international customers would be out of luck.

[tburke0]

Vic Wertz wrote:

Hmm. Maybe you have to enable it before it appears there. If you click on Profile, and select "More Options," do you see "PayPal Plug-In" under the "Financial Information" heading?

Nope, the options in that list for me are:

Financial Information

* Credit/Debit Cards
* Bank Accounts
* Currency Balances
* Gifts and Discounts
* Recurring Payments
* Pay List
* Preapproved Payments

Vic Wertz wrote:

Hmm. I can even download the Windows-only PayPal Plug-In that I can't even use. Does this link work for you?

That link did DL an executable. I'll see where it goes from there...

Thanks!

[tburke0]

tburke0 wrote:

That link did DL an executable. I'll see where it goes from there...

Thanks!

OK installed the exe, downgraded Firefox to get "Continue Setup" to work. Pick a security image, enter PP password, now the last step "Enable secure cards" leads back to that first "Sorry" link here

So I guess the moral of the story here is, if you got it you got it, if you aint you aint...

[Vic Wertz]

tburke0 wrote:

tburke0 wrote:

That link did DL an executable. I'll see where it goes from there...

Thanks!

OK installed the exe, downgraded Firefox to get "Continue Setup" to work. Pick a security image, enter PP password, now the last step "Enable secure cards" leads back to that first "Sorry" link here

So I guess the moral of the story here is, if you got it you got it, if you aint you aint...

Looks like you're right—I finally found a note to the effect that they're not adding any new people to the secure card program at this time. There was no indication of how long that might be the case.

They are offering a PayPal debit card that can be used as a MasterCard and draws from your PayPal account, though...

[dm4hire]

If all else fails there's always slavery... I mean, volunteering to work the conventions for credit. ;-)

[Alex G St-Amand]

Paul Ryan wrote:

I try to avoid using Paypal, but I seem to recall seeing that that plugin is restricted to users in the US only. If my memory is right, then international customers would be out of luck.

This, as far as I know, that CC thing is US residents only or something.

Is ClickandBuy similar to Paypal?

Another topic about this.