Paladin's Bonded Familiar and feats for fun and profit.


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Liberty's Edge

Making a paladin, lvl 5. Taking Bonded helper guy, more importantly an Ape. I'd like to stick him with light/medium armor proficiency and Exotic weapon focus (spiked chain). Under the druid Animal Compainion it states that any AC with an int greater than 3 can take any feat. Paladin's bonded helper has 6, so CHECK. In the 3.5 arms and equipment guide you could ride ogres and apes so I don't see that as a problem either so CHECK. Apes have fingers and most importantly thumbs so he could wield the spike chain, so CHECK.

What holes do you see with this other than it might be cheese but totally works as RAW.

I ride into battle (or scale a cliff) on top my fearsome mount, I drop from his back as we enter the fray. My enemies scatter as Fluffy raises to his back leg and whips his chain into their faces. Tripping and disarming them as I cleave their precious heads in.

Liberty's Edge

Khorus wrote:

Making a paladin, lvl 5. Taking Bonded helper guy, more importantly an Ape. I'd like to stick him with light/medium armor proficiency and Exotic weapon focus (spiked chain). Under the druid Animal Compainion it states that any AC with an int greater than 3 can take any feat. Paladin's bonded helper has 6, so CHECK. In the 3.5 arms and equipment guide you could ride ogres and apes so I don't see that as a problem either so CHECK. Apes have fingers and most importantly thumbs so he could wield the spike chain, so CHECK.

What holes do you see with this other than it might be cheese but totally works as RAW.

I ride into battle (or scale a cliff) on top my fearsome mount, I drop from his back as we enter the fray. My enemies scatter as Fluffy raises to his back leg and whips his chain into their faces. Tripping and disarming them as I cleave their precious heads in.

I LOLed. Cheese factor 5, Mr. Sulu.

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Khorus wrote:
the 3.5 arms and equipment guide

...does not exist. That was a 3.0 product.

Just picking nits. :)


Pure, nutty swiss...BUT I'd probably allow it in my game if you came up with a really good (and entertaining) backstory and maybe balanced the weapon/armor thing with some sort of disadvantage (like it eats copious amounts of bananas or something). It's certainly nothing worse than the kind of crazy crap I saw some 3.5 druids do in my games.

So, what's this guy's story? Paladin from Mwangi?
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Insert Planet of the Apes quote here:

Gotta hand it to ya, that'd be something to see!

Liberty's Edge

Just thinking if the war god provided me with a mount it should be able to pull its own weight. Also riding a wolf would be amazing, for look and to let it trip people so you get the +4 to smash them as they squirm.


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Khorus wrote:
Making a paladin, lvl 5...My enemies scatter as Fluffy raises to his back leg and whips his chain into their faces. Tripping and disarming them as I cleave their precious heads in.

Personally, I'd warn you ahead of time (in any campaign I ran) that this would cause you to lose your paladin abilities. Paladins (in my campaigns) follow a code of honor and chivalry, and

1) Double-teaming an opponent is unfair
2) Disarming an opponent, in and of itself, is fine but,
3) then attacking the disarmed opponent is unfair
4) Tripping an opponent, in and of itself, is fine but,
5) then attacking the prone foe is unfair

Paladin's fight fair-- or at least in my understanding of chivalry they do. Everyone else is free to interpret as they like, but to me, double-teaming an enemy then tripping him and attacking him while he is prone, at a severe disadvantage mind you, is patently unlike a paladin or anyone who professes to follow any sort of code of honor.

But hey, if your DM allows it, why not also take some levels of rogue then use fluffy to flank and let your paladin sneak attack the opponent when he is focusing more on fluffies chain? If you blacked out your armor you could maybe even hide in shadows to surprise the stupid person and lop his head off! Or even use a garotte! Hey, why not!

Just sayin.

Edit: I really hope that the original poster is more making a thought experiment and wouldn't really have a paladin behave like this. If not then I really think people are missing the point of the paladin... or maybe I am. I thought they were supposed to be honorable.

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