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Honestly, I think Chloe was meant to be a bridge between Eli and the rest of the crew, someone who understood where Eli was because they were roughly the same age but who also knew enough about the SGC to fill in the blanks for Eli. However that seems to have gotten thrown out right around the second or third episode.
...Right about when she slept with Lieutenant doofus?
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Some thoughts.
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They killed SGU by skipping over storyline.
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#2: While it seems that Franklin ascended I think it would be more cool if he were somehow absorbed into the ship's operating system, thus giving them a way to access Destiny's controls.
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I don't think he ascended, or rather I don't think he ascended completely. I think he's going to be 'haunting' the ships systems for some time.
My two pet peeves:
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Actually, given what they've established about the range of the type of gates used in the show, it is indeed quite a stretch that they were still in range of the gate. It should have taken days to get everything arranged to have that scientist on board, and they established that Destiny is way out of range (as in needed multiple hops) in that space of time. Plus intergalactic distances are *big* :)
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No coincidence involved in the faulty drive failing. The drive system was sabotaged, and as said in the show, the weakest link failed. It's a bit of a song-and-dance to say that the system functions better without the bad component, but it's not strange coincidence.
As far as the trio being in range...I still think there's no change that after several days traveling past the rim, they'd be in range. We were fairly clearly shown that their last stop was on the trailing edge of the galaxy. That happenstance pretty well broke my suspension of disbelief for the episode.
Better to have just let them barely make it last episode than to pull off a BS save like that.
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Is the gate on the ship a nine chevron gate?
It just occured to me that they could dial forward to the next ship...
Lack of power. Plus we don't know how far ahead the seed ships are, or if they are even inhabitable.
Oh, and they'd have to be able to 'crack' the gate computer to do it.
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Is the gate on the ship a nine chevron gate?
It just occured to me that they could dial forward to the next ship...
Lack of power. Plus we don't know how far ahead the seed ships are, or if they are even inhabitable.
Oh, and they'd have to be able to 'crack' the gate computer to do it.
Or if the ships ahead even have working gates. After all their mission was to plant gates on planets so that the Ancients who would eventually inhabit Destiny could explore them. The preceding ships were true drones where as the Destiny was intended to be inhabited but was then launched without a crew instead.
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Well I'd say they all had gates on board - it seems standard tech to allow them to maintain a constant check on ops. The ships would be increasingly primitive...unless they waited until they knew all and then sent them one at a time. THen they would be standard. If Destiny was in bad nick - how bad is the one they sent the day before?
Maybe but it would be awesome if they attempted to send RUSH back to Earth for prosecution and made the error of sending him Forward to the next ship with a gate. All alone to fend for himself on a Ship worse off than the last.
The ycould name the new series: STARGATE:RUSH and set it a style like 24 where every episode is as hour and everything happens in a week as he fights for survival.
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Yeah.... except they can jumper from Atlantis to SGC via the Gate network...
Which takes time, time they would not have. So I am ok with the lack of the jumper
The wheel chair thing however is just down right madding. Good storyline, but madding.
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Yeah.... except they can jumper from Atlantis to SGC via the Gate network...*Beats head against wall*
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Oh and as to the finale
And when they come through the gate, can Chloe be convienently standing in front of it?. The actress is eye candy, but I HATE the character.
I know I'm in the minority here- but I don't hate chloe.
I don't like her either though.
She reminds me alot of Troi on Star Trek when it first started up. It took them a season or two to work out just exactly how they would treat her and for her to come into her own personality.. but once she did- it worked out fine.
I keep hoping they do that with Chloe.
Either that.. or.. yeah, as ya said.
have her standing too close to the backlash of the gate.
-S
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I'm not sure you're supposed to like Chloe.
She's there by even more of an accident than anybody else. She doesn't start out with much in the way of skills, and she's the POV character to indicate that normal civilians in that kind of a situation ought to be terrified.
And she's toying with Eli's friendship while shagging Lt. Scott. So, what's there to like?
Well, she's developing. This show is written to go on for years, and we're seeing the first hints at character development. (At first, Young was reluctant to lead these people. He's falling into that responsibility. And we haven't left Telford, by a long shot.)
Chloe's not going to end up being The Smart One. We already have Rush and Eli to carry the "smart guy" conversations. But she might end up being The Magic One. And, spurred on by the tick episode, she might end up earning our respect as her father's daughter.
She reminds me alot of Troi on Star Trek when it first started up. It took them a season or two to work out just exactly how they would treat her and for her to come into her own personality.. but once she did- it worked out fine.
*twitch*
Troi worked fine? Really? You must have been watching a different show then the one I saw. Troi had two modes:(1) State the total obvious. e.g. A ship is firing on the enterprise, "I feel hostile emotions from them captain."
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(2) Her powers are getting screwed with or she is getting mind-attacked and her response is, "I have to quit Starfleet because my mental powers can't be depended upon."
Anybody remember the situation where Data saves the cryo-people and there are attacks on the Romulan border (I think they were suppose to be borg incursions or something) and the Federation thought it was the Romulans and the Romulans thought it was the Federation, and who figures out that the Romulans are just as clueless as the Federation about the attacks? The person with the freaken mental powers? No, a businessman from the 20th century. Wesley was annoying as all hell, but Troi was just utterly useless.
I think Chloe is going to be the "face" of the crew. I mean the daughter of a senator should have picked up some amount of diplomacy just by osmosis and with her burgeoning understanding of the alien race it just seems like a plausible, logical next step.
Of course I too wouldnt mind it if she was vaporized when the gate opens again.
Troi worked because she did eventually come into those two roles.
And once that was established- it is what she was.
You were never wondering "well what's she there for" which is really the conversation we're having about Chloe.
The hate about her aside- the real question is.. whats the useless chick gonna end up being? Will she ever find some use? Ever? Because right now all she does is consume precious oxygen.
-S
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Season Finale part one opened some new story options. I sat in on the Syfy chat and some other tidbits came to light.
season 2 spoilers
Alaina Huffman was 8 months pregnant when the finale was shot. Talk about working 'til the water breaks.
Chloe ... and people wonder why we have taken to calling her "the load".
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Things I liked:
The fact that Eli and Chloe ended up in an unexplored portion of the ship.
A new dynamic for the ship and the show.
The mystery of why the ship hasn't jumped yet.
Telford is really not an ass but Young is.
Things I did not like:
The fact that nobody ever stopped to think that travel through the gate would disrupt the stones when a hyperspace jump does.
Rush becoming a bloodthirsty individual.
I really wish this show wasn't following the "science fiction playbook" so closely. I am waiting for some real story to emerge, not the same stuff redone with new characters, on a new "stage."
That aside:
Ely finds something in the new section of the ship that saves the day (Wesley Crusher syndrome).
Chloe lives, just to spite fans.
Power levels are too low to continue the jump to the next galaxy - until some "riddle" is solved.
They will only have enough energy to jump to the next galaxy so they can't reverse course.
Something will happen, probably a power struggle between the three factions, that will keep them from recharging and returning towards Earth.
I so very much hope I am wrong.
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- Well now we have Telford and Young and Rush on the ship. It will be nice to see how Telford/Greer works out.
They hate each other...only a stupid writer will kill one or the other in some sort of face-off. These two will wind up in some weird -
"Everyone else is safe?" Greer was down to almost nothing in the way of Ammo.
"Yeah!" Telford is carrying a small nuke on his shoulder. "How many Rounds you Got left?"
In the distance Alien Troop Transports are on their Landing Cycles.
"Not enough." Greer has reduced himself to single round kills. The Blue Aliens begin to close in from all directions.
"Ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!" Greer and Telford laugh as Telford flips the trigger on the Nuke resting on his shoulder... - The Lucien Alliance is on board, and they brought supplies (including a lack of energy weapons. I assume the writers want finite ammo to be an issue) Well - they are one Stargate expedition away from being left on a planet.
So this crew is going to become a more interstellar effort?
- Good news: Chloe got shot! Bad news: It was a leg wound, and it looks like she'll live.
She's a breeder...no way in hell the mother & Warlord of the Human Empire of Galaxy 10 is gonna die. All her Male Concubines will lay down their lives first way before she dies. I'm expecting Chloe and Her Eli to stumble across blue Aliens/Something Awesome as they make their way back through the ship on foot.
- Rant: Can we get some Atlantis cast please? Not to mention "We can't beam him out, the base has shielding." If only you could oh, I don't know, send in a small cloaked ship capable of carrying an assault squad...
Shes Hot? Oh right...she is in charge of Atlantis? Must be Season 5.
- Rant 2: "We still have two 303s that are out of range." "We can't wait for them, go!" Um... you have beaming technology Sam, at least you can beam the pilots out...
303 Had/have Hyperspace motors...you remember the Original Test where the SGU uses the 303 Prototype to jump the Asteroid through the earth? Al they need to do is engage Hyperdrive.
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Telford is really not an ass, but Young is.
The way I wanted the dialogue between Young and Scott to go:
SCOTT: I guess you really did the right thing with cutting off Telford's air.
YOUNG: So, when I give an order, you'll approve, so long as I explain my reasons in advance? Is that it?
SCOTT: No, sir.
YOUNG: Because if that's the case, then we have a problem. Do we have a problem, Lieutennant?
SCOTT: (deep breath) Sir. On the day of my commission, I swore an oath to the Constitution. I am under your command and will obey every lawful order. But I believed you were killing a prisoner to obtain information, and according to my oath, I could neither to assist you, nor stand by and watch you commit a murder. You do not need to explain every order, sir. But every time I see you appear to commit a court martial offense, I will ask you to explain yourself.
The issue may be one of metaphor. Colonel Young is an Air Force officer, but he's become the captain of a vessel, and the rules for what a captain can get away with are different.
As much as this show has grown on me, even though every other episode is a groaner, the season finale is an hour of my life I want back.
Who will live? Who will die? Does it really take a two part episode just to create cliffhangers and hype for the next season?
An interesting story could have been started and ended in an interesting way that has one looking forward to where it will go from here. Instead it is television at its worst.
I hold out hope that the next season can recover because I want to like it, I'll just quickly try to forget about the end of this one and desperately avoid giving it the satisfaction of caring who lives or dies or comes back for season 2.
-Wannabe SGU fan
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As much as this show has grown on me, even though every other episode is a groaner, the season finale is an hour of my life I want back.
Who will live? Who will die? Does it really take a two part episode just to create cliffhangers and hype for the next season?
An interesting story could have been started and ended in an interesting way that has one looking forward to where it will go from here. Instead it is television at its worst.
I hold out hope that the next season can recover because I want to like it, I'll just quickly try to forget about the end of this one and desperately avoid giving it the satisfaction of caring who lives or dies or comes back for season 2.
-Wannabe SGU fan
So what you really wanted was a SGU done in the style of 24? In this case Where the entire Season happens in a 2 day window or the Series Story Happens in a single Week?
I could have gone with that. Hour 1:
They hurry onto the Ship through the Stargate...
"Check the Injured!"
"Get clear of the gate..."
"RUSH!! What have you done to us?"
"I Just Saved all our Lives!"
AIR could have lasted half the Season and they could have ended the series with anything from RUSH left abandoned by Colonel Paranoid (lets chalk that kill up as another sucess) to The Abduction of Chloe by Blue Aliens as a Series Cliffhanger.
They could have bought Chloe back in the New SG: WARLORD series with Chloe defrosted by her Alien Abductors to become Warlord of GALAXY 10.
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My thoughts...
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My thoughts...
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They have been having sex for 6 months? and she isnt pregnant? I dont think so...Her 'GI Joe Doll' will die from a puncture leaving her to raise their child out there in 'Galaxy 10'.
By the end of the Series she will be in leather with a pistol on her hip.
"Chloe?" Rush held both hands in the air pleading for Survival. "We are going back to Earth..." He pointed at the open Wormhole in the Gate.
Chloe turned to point the Gun at Rush.
"No." Colonel Young closed in from behind attempting stealth.
"Get off my ship!" Chloe turned and pointed the Pistol at Colonel Young's head. Rush attempted to take her from behind only to find a second gun in his face.
"It's not your moment, Rush." Apparently she still held a grudge over the death of the Senator.
"Now Colonel Young, time for you to leave." He had to accept the loss. She had evolved claws to cope with the horror of the situation. Young backed up through the gate and vanished into the pool.
"Rush...now you." Nicolaus Rush moved slowly toward the Gate, almost to it...
"Rush!" He turned to meet her gaze. Chloe fired and the corpse fell backward through the Wormhole.
"Ëli!" The new Warlord of the Destiny stared at her new first mate, "Prepare to eject the Gate."
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Between this and the Time Lord thing your beginning to creep me right out.
Predictions:Telford dies. Ely finds something in the new section of the ship that saves the day (Wesley Crusher syndrome).
Chloe lives, just to spite fans.
Power levels are too low to continue the jump to the next galaxy - until some "riddle" is solved.
They will only have enough energy to jump to the next galaxy so they can't reverse course.
Something will happen, probably a power struggle between the three factions, that will keep them from recharging and returning towards Earth.
After finally getting a chance to see the last episode:
Ely finds something in the new section of the ship that saves the day (Wesley Crusher syndrome). Not quite/not yet. But not too far off.
Chloe lives, just to spite fans. So far, but we might be pleasantly surprised next season.
Power levels are too low to continue the jump to the next galaxy - until some "riddle" is solved. Partially correct.
They will only have enough energy to jump to the next galaxy so they can't reverse course. Wrong. I was thinking the scientist became one with the ship and had control over it. That isn't the case, so they have no way to reverse course.
Something will happen, probably a power struggle between the three factions, that will keep them from recharging and returning towards Earth. Mostly wrong. Again, this was based on the assumption that the ship was semi-controllable (more than it was). There is still a power struggle three way though.
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Chloe turned to point the Gun at Rush.
"No." Colonel Young closed in from behind attempting stealth.
"Get off my ship!" Chloe turned and pointed the Pistol at Colonel Young's head. Rush attempted to take her from behind only to find a second gun in his face.
"It's not your moment, Rush." Apparently she still held a grudge over the death of the Senator.
"Now Colonel Young, time for you to leave." He had to accept the loss. She had evolved claws to cope with the horror of the situation. Young backed up through the gate and vanished into the pool.
"Rush...now you." Nicolaus Rush moved slowly toward the Gate, almost to it...
"Rush!" He turned to meet her gaze. Chloe fired and the corpse fell backward through the Wormhole.
"Ëli!" The new Warlord of the Destiny stared at her new first mate, "Prepare to eject the Gate."
"Yeah!" Telford is carrying a small nuke on his shoulder. "How many Rounds you Got left?"
In the distance Alien Troop Transports are on their Landing Cycles.
"Not enough." Greer has reduced himself to single round kills. The Blue Aliens begin to close in from all directions.
"Ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!" Greer and Telford laugh as Telford flips the trigger on the Nuke resting on his shoulder...
"You cut my baby out of me." The Scalpel had nicked a vital artery and he was bleeding out.
"Your child was dead...I did it to save you..."A second artery was cut through. "Please stop..." His bloody hand went to her cheek and then dropped to the ground. He was gone.
"What am I looking at here?" As they drew closer she could see it - A vast framework housed a dozen unfinished Destiny Class ships.
"Oh my god! Its the Shipyards of the Ancients!"
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Dynamics are getting interesting.
- The Lucien Alliance plothook is getting slowly resolved, need more of red-headed-tech-girl though.
- I hope they leave the Johansen/Telford baby issue unresolved. Though I'd think they'd have to do major surgery and notice a mising infant.
- I don't think we've seen the last of Telford. (Though those aliens looked suspiciously like proto-asgard to me)
- Rush is back to being magnificent bastard. I don't know if his halucinations are his halucinations or ship/ancient influence.
- After the season finale chat on the page, I have even more respect for Alaina Huffman
- Eli's mom now knows where he is. Pet Peeve, there's no Asgard/Atlantis tech that would allow them to treat HIV they couldn't introduce...
- Eli's concerns of them blowing up the stargate with a bit of C4 was good. I mean the viewers know that they can survive a small nuke, but Eli's going off of half remembered notes...
- Chloe is becoming a plot device, kind of like the stargate. Good she's about as stiff as the Gate.
- Greer's becoming more controlled and complex. Good I like the actor.
- Camile seems to be developing a friendship with Eli. I'm hoping it's a legit one. It would be a nice factor if, being torn between Rush and Young, he chose the third option. I also think she's about to get hurt bad by her partner. Plus I'd like to see more of Ming Na (No not that way you perv- well, yeah, that way too.)
Dynamics are getting interesting.
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+1 :)
Started rewatching this recently after it was mentioned in the Defiance thread, and boy oh boy, I wish it had lasted a few more seasons.
It was just starting to get it's feat under it when it went. Imo, the first season was so-so, but it had picked up in the second and then "poof". That's always annoying. I just re-watched both seasons of Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles. Interesting season end in season 2 and then "poof". Although I thought it was good from the get go... and of course, there's the ultimate geek lament; Firefly. Dead after what was really a 1/2 a season. This is getting depressing. Time to go back to grading papers. Not that that isn't depressing, but it's somewhat less so...