Hey folks!
Trying to figure out this whole Monk thing and noticed something strange in the description for Flurry of Blows in the manual. The manual states that at levl 5 the penalty for FoB goes to -1 and at level 9 goes to 0. Yet when I look at table 4-8 it shows that the penalty goes to -1 at levl 2. Also when you get to levl 9 its showing +6/+6/+1 for # of attacks and bonuses.
So, my question is which is right. The table or the text, or am I missing some key information somewhere?
Thanks in advance.
At level 2, the flurry penalty is -2 but a monk has +1 BAB, so the total attack bonus is -1 (excluding any other bonuses).
But at level 5, the flurry penalty is -1 and a monk has +3 BAB, so the total attack bonus is +2 (excluding any other bonuses).
Is it clear as mud yet? :-)
Monks don't suffer two weapon fighting penalties as long as they fight unarmed or with monk weapons.
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Monks don't suffer two weapon fighting penalties as long as they fight unarmed or with monk weapons.
Actually they don't suffer twf penalties when using flurry of blows with or without weapons. However a monk could use flurry and twf to gain yet another attack but would most certainly suffer the penalties (and the off hand str difference) in 3.5.
So you seem smart:) Here's another question for you. When using FOB do you suffer the two-weapons fighting penalties (in this case -2/-2 at levl 1) as well or does the FOB replace the Two Weapon Fighting penalties ( and we are using monk weapons for this).
A level 1 monk holding two monk weapons has two, or maybe three options:
- Use TWF only. Then he can make one attack with his primary hand at -2 and one off-hand attack at -2.
- Use a flurry of blows. Then he can make two attacks at -2/-2; either attack (or both) can be made with either weapon he's holding.
- Use TWF and a flurry of blows. At least the 3.5 FAQ says that is possible. Then he would make a flurry of blows at -4/-4 and an additional off-hand attack at -4 (since the flurry and TWF penalties stack).
Yes, that's my understanding from reading the 3.5 FAQ.
Yes, that's my understanding from reading the 3.5 FAQ.I keep seeing mentions of this FAQ , yet I can't seem to find it. Where is it?
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20030221a
Of course, some of those questions won't apply to the Pathfinder RPG, but it's still interesting to look at.
A level 1 monk holding two monk weapons has two, or maybe three options:
- Use TWF only. Then he can make one attack with his primary hand at -2 and one off-hand attack at -2.
- Use a flurry of blows. Then he can make two attacks at -2/-2; either attack (or both) can be made with either weapon he's holding.
- Use TWF and a flurry of blows. At least the 3.5 FAQ says that is possible. Then he would make a flurry of blows at -4/-4 and an additional off-hand attack at -4 (since the flurry and TWF penalties stack).
Just to add a little to this:
Option 1: primary hand attack does full strength, off-hand does 1/2 strength.Option 2: both attacks, made with whichever hands or unarmed strikes, deal full strength.
Option 3: the first two attacks deal full strength, the last deals 1/2 (even if it's the same 'hand' as another attack).
And you're right to stay away from this :)
Of course we should know a lot more as of Wednesday's Monk Preview.
And way over here too???
There's number five!