Godhood and the local Village


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion

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If Godhood is achievable simply because you are worshiped by enough people, what is to stop PCs going into a City, and holding a City Lottery to select which Resident will be worshiped by the Populace and thus become God of the City-State of _________?


That's why I like the Eberron version of gods as extremely remote (possibly non-existent) creatures that are fairly indifferent to worship.


Who says that worship is enough? Razmir didn't pull it off, and he has a whole nation.

I think the pure worship path to godhood requires millions of earnest worshippers, if it even is enough.

And there are no hard and fast rules to this, and no complaints department you can appeal to.

In fact, holding a city-wide god lottery will probably incur the wrath of the gods.

I think they have a guy for that sort of thing. Achaechek or something like that.

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yellowdingo wrote:
If Godhood is achievable simply because you are worshiped by enough people, what is to stop PCs going into a City, and holding a City Lottery to select which Resident will be worshiped by the Populace and thus become God of the City-State of _________?

Typically, just stating that one is a god is a sign of delusion, not godlike status. Talk like that'll get you tossed into Habe's Sanatorium in the relaxing, ghoul-infested countryside of Varisia.

I don't think just telling people to worship person X would really qualify as legitimate worship anyway. Personally, I tend not to allow PCs to achieve godhood status. If a player is vehement about it, however, it would have to involve some major quest or quests to reach that state, typically with some gods actively working at keeping the PC from achieving their goal (it is a fairly exclusive club, after all).

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KaeYoss wrote:

In fact, holding a city-wide god lottery will probably incur the wrath of the gods.

I think they have a guy for that sort of thing. Achaechek or something like that.

Yup Achaekek it is

Liberty's Edge

You gotta go through some gnostic process, and/or get zapped by something artifacty as well. THEN, you can suck mana from the adoring masses.


Tell ya what. Let's all go out on a Sunday/day-of-worship-of-your-choice deep in some heavily religious area of the US (or another country) and try this?

It relies upon an external premise (as explained in the Pathfinder setting), almost metagame knowledge, that will not be believable to someone (an NPC) within that setting unless they have some special knowledge.


AH-HA-HA!

The Exchange

But then again if you won a lottery to become God of the City-State of ________ you must take Luck as one of your domains (unless you rigged the lottery - then its Corruption). :)


Never forget sponsorship. You can become a deity if someone else helps you. The starstone could be considered something like this (a mix of artifact and divine sponsorship, courtesy of Arodan).

Personally, me and my associates have been discussing things.

yellowdingo wrote:
But then again if you won a lottery to become God of the City-State of ________ you must take Luck as one of your domains (unless you rigged the lottery - then its Corruption). :)

I can see Him Who Walks In Blood standing before you, going "Do you feel lucky now, punk?"

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yellowdingo wrote:
If Godhood is achievable simply because you are worshiped by enough people, what is to stop PCs going into a City, and holding a City Lottery to select which Resident will be worshiped by the Populace and thus become God of the City-State of _________?

I don't think we state anywhere that this is a possible way of becoming a god. We address different means of achieving godhood in the intro to Gods and Magic, but "get a lot of people to think you're a god" isn't one of them.

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"Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES!"


Fatespinner wrote:
"Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES!"

LOL.

I have to say, if Achaekek showed up instead of the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Golem, I'd be a lot more intimidated.

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"Yes. This man has no...."


yellowdingo wrote:
If Godhood is achievable simply because you are worshiped by enough people, what is to stop PCs going into a City, and holding a City Lottery to select which Resident will be worshiped by the Populace and thus become God of the City-State of _________?

1. You need to be personally powerful to start with.

2. You need to either steal the power of an existing god or have the sponsership of one.
3. You need those who truly believe you are divine not just pay lip service to it.

Oh did I mention it can also take over a thousand years for you to actually ascend to godhood. And you still need worshipers during this time period.

Well that's how I do it. I have never had a PC reach godhood, but one came really really close. He had two of the three, but refused the final step of having worshipers, he told those who seemed to think him divine to give their prayers to his patron diety instead claiming whatever he did was really said diety acting through him. I effectly granted him Hero status, a step about on par with a Demon Prince. Not quiet a god but really really powerful.


Sean K Reynolds wrote:


I don't think we state anywhere that this is a possible way of becoming a god. We address different means of achieving godhood in the intro to Gods and Magic, but "get a lot of people to think you're a god" isn't one of them.

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Hierarch of Gygaxian Naturalism wrote:


IMPRIMATUR

NIHIL OBSTAT

Well, I was speaking about Golarion. Other worlds may have other rules. ;)

The Exchange

...but if they worship an object its called an icon and granted some divine qualities...

"Bow down before the head of Bo!" Highpriest Nakmanun impressed apon the local villagers the importance of worshiping the boulder being carried by his dozen minor clerics...

There is very little difference between a six foot tall rock head and a geezer who won the lotto and is now considered god.


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