Starglim
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Anyone have a list of what weapons this applies to, other than that found in the ARG?
I haven't seen an exhaustive official list. It applies to the list given from the core rulebook and to weapons from other sources that are similar to those listed. In an extreme corner case the GM would have to rule whether it applies.
| lemeres |
Those? Be a bit for specific. There are the weapons given as examples in the racial trait, or do you mean the weapon groups?
For weapon groups, you can find them all pretty much listed in the fighter class's weapon training feature if I remember right. The idea that sword training covers all heavy and light blades sounds simple enough to accept, since many of those weapons are listed under the racial trait.
Starglim
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I'd say it's a safe bet that all weapons in the heavy blades and light blades weapon groups qualify.
I'm not sure I can agree it's safe, since light blades includes the kama and starknife, which are not on the list given for Swordtrained. The Ultimate Equipment lists include the chakram and hunga munga - if the starknife is not included, neither should these be. I might use them as an indication with some caution.
| bigrig107 |
Perhaps we could work together to create such a list?
I was hoping to get some help on this.
We'd have to start with the CRB:
dagger, punching dagger, kukri, starknife (maybe), short sword, longsword, rapier, scimitar, falchion, greatsword, bastard sword, elven curve blade,and two-bladed sword.
Anything I missed?
Anybody have "swords" in other books?
Arutema
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The Pathfinder Society scenario 'Defenders of Nesting Swallow' has Tengu NPCs statted out as proficient with Katana and Wakizashi.
I would presume they are proficient with the other eastern swords from UC such as the Nodachi and Nine-ring Broadsword.
| bigrig107 |
dagger, punching dagger, kukri, starknife (maybe), short sword, longsword, rapier, scimitar, falchion, greatsword, bastard sword, elven curve blade, two-bladed sword, katana, wakizashi, nodachi, nine-ring broadsword, seven branched sword, falcata, sawtooth sabre, temple sword, dueling sword, double chicken saber, double walking stick katana (whatever that is), flambard, great terbutje, khopesh, klar, scythe (not sure about this), shotel, terbutje, bayonet (really?), butterfly knife, butterfly sword, chakram, gladius, hunga munga (?), kama, katar, kerambit, madu, pata, quadrens, scizore, sica, sickle, swordbreaker dagger, sword cane, war razor.
That's all I got.
| lemeres |
The double walking stick is just two swords that also act as each other's sheaths.
The Hunga Munga is a weird throwing knife that lacks the usual single blade, and instead has a central shaft with spikes and sickle like protrusions sticking out. Despite being a real weapon, you would call it out as a badly designed prop for Klingons to use. At least with some of the designs.
Oh, here is one we missed: Lungchuan tamo. This is basically a dagger with worse stats that has the same two wepaon/sheath thing that the double walking stick had. The only real advantage it has is that it is a monk weapon. So it is mostly for throwing and flavor really. They are actually a nice weapon for a Sohei to use in levels 1-5 if they want to focus on daggers.
We also missed the shuang gou, or hook sword as they are also commonly called. Oh, I remember seeing that on the Deadliest Warrior. It has a lot of techniques that can be used since it is basically covered in sharp points, and you can even hook a pair of them together to do a whip like attack (actually part of Paizo's rules for them, giving it the trip property when you do so; they are otherwise disarm weapons)
Also, how could we forget the dogslicer (well, other than the fact that they are relatively terrible and you get a weird look you ask for one made to your size... so fairly forgettable). Similarly, we forgot the Rhoka,which is a weapon for..."urdefhan, life-hating quasi-daemonic creatures native to the Darklands". Mostly only comes up if you happen to find one while adventuring, I suppose.
We also forgot the cutlass, which is just a reflavor of the scimitar really, but important nonetheless (since pirates officially like tengu as good luck charms)