Ahmadinejad is a tool


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Sovereign Court

An asshat, a fool, a moron, a jerk, there are some people whom just deserve a swift kick to the balls, and then theres Ahmadinejad who deserves a permanent ball kicking machine that is surgically grafted to him.

seriously


Maybe I misunderstand the usage of 'tool'. To me, it has always implied someone incapable of standing on their own or simply spouting what is fed them. Ahmadinejad is a wackjob, but I do not think he is a puppet. The fact that he is such a wackjob leads me to believe he is dancing to his own drummer.

Sovereign Court

Tool to me has always just meant pretty much the same as ass


Ahmadinejad speech: full text

Its requirement or outcome is a return to spiritual and ethical values and human virtues and finally the belief in God.

Any of this sound eerily familiar?

I think he does bring up an interesting point, though. Is it fair that certain countries have veto power?


CourtFool wrote:
Ahmadinejad is a wackjob, but I do not think he is a puppet.

My understanding was that, in reality, he has little to no power of his own, but is subservient to his master the Ayatollah. Ahmadinejad allows the Ayatollah to say crazed shit without actually saying it himself; in that respect, the dude is like a sock puppet -- certainly a tool, unless my assessment is way off (which is quite possible -- I'm no expert).

Liberty's Edge

Kirth Gersen wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
Ahmadinejad is a wackjob, but I do not think he is a puppet.
My understanding was that, in reality, he has little to no power of his own, but is subservient to his master the Ayatollah. Ahmadinejad allows the Ayatollah to say crazed s%&% without actually saying it himself; in that respect, the dude is like a sock puppet -- certainly a tool, unless my assessment is way off (which is quite possible -- I'm no expert).

No, you're right. The Mullahs run Iran, the "Republic" part is a sham, as most parties are disqualified by the Mullahs before elections, for such things as advocating womens rights or being too west-friendly.

Amenjinidad's predecessor, Mohammad Khatami, was basically run out of office for not toeing the company line close enough. He actually believed in reforming Iran's government and being less belligerent. Not a recipe for political longevity in a totalitarian "republic".

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CourtFool wrote:
Maybe I misunderstand the usage of 'tool'.

Tool can have two meanings in this case:

One would be that he is the tool or pawn of another. (This seems to be the way you took it.)

The other is literally calling him a 'dick'. (I believe this is what thelastknight intended.)


Kirth Gersen wrote:
Ahmadinejad allows the Ayatollah to say crazed s*#~ without actually saying it himself; in that respect, the dude is like a sock puppet -- certainly a tool, unless my assessment is way off

I could see that. Then again, I seem to recall the Mullahs telling him to settle down. Again, maybe they were just being sly and making it look like he was not fully under their control.

Dark Archive

The speech he gave is exactly why President Obama decided to boycott the conference. I congratulate the president for seeing it for the circus it really is.

Sovereign Court

Ross Byers wrote:


The other is literally calling him a 'dick'. (I believe this is what thelastknight intended.)

Ah to be understood.


lastknightleft wrote:
Ah to be understood.

My apologies. I have just never seen it used in that context.

Sovereign Court

and what's funny is if you ignore parts of the speach, other parts sound reasonable and if you ignore the tool that he is, and the bs policies his country follows, oh and his desire to redefine the term racism. Man such a sad sad speach, thanks for linking it courtfool and seriously no apologies necessary.


CourtFool wrote:

Ahmadinejad speech: full text

Its requirement or outcome is a return to spiritual and ethical values and human virtues and finally the belief in God.

Any of this sound eerily familiar?

I think he does bring up an interesting point, though. Is it fair that certain countries have veto power?

Fair maybe not, but then again the UN exists primarily because of many of the nations that have veto power.

I would suggest it is better to give the USA a veto vote vs. a situation where the USA is forced to use their real veto power, which is military power, to overturn a UN vote they can't live with.

((I use the USA but the same applies to Russia, China, and the Brits as well, the French ... I have no idea why they have it.))


I specifically did not mention the propriety of the veto votes in an attempt to stir up discussion. The founding nations and, arguably, the most influential nations, are the ones with veto powers. I do not doubt there is very good reason.

However, it does still appear unfair and, debatably, undemocratic.

I do not agree with a lot Ahmadinejad said. It mostly sounded to me, “…blah blah blah, everyone should convert to Islam, blah blah blah, America bad…” I do think he made a valid point that America sticks its nose in a lot of places it probably should not. Right or wrong. As much as we like to preach democracy, America is really more like a benevolent dictator to the rest of the world.

At least in my ignorant, American opinion.

Liberty's Edge

And did you catch his entourage calling Elie Wiesel a "zionazi" at the conference?

Contributor

Thurgon wrote:
Sadly I have little to no accent. I'm tone deaf and have other hearing issues. A British friend of mine in college once remarked my speach has the least accent he has ever heard.

Perhaps you are actually a ro-bot.

Dark Archive

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Thurgon wrote:
Sadly I have little to no accent. I'm tone deaf and have other hearing issues. A British friend of mine in college once remarked my speach has the least accent he has ever heard.

Perhaps you are actually a ro-bot.

Glad to see I'm not the only person who's posts end up in the wrong thread.


David Fryer wrote:
Glad to see I'm not the only person who's posts end up in the wrong thread.

You mean I am the only one who does that intentionally?

The Exchange

CourtFool wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Glad to see I'm not the only person who's posts end up in the wrong thread.
You mean I am the only one who does that intentionally?

Yes

Sovereign Court

CourtFool wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Glad to see I'm not the only person who's posts end up in the wrong thread.
You mean I am the only one who does that intentionally?

You have intentions?

I thought you just randomly wandered around without a plan licking and humping everything.

Dark Archive

ROTFLMAO


lastknightleft wrote:
I thought you just randomly wandered around without a plan licking and humping everything.

Licks lastknightleft.


CourtFool wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:
I thought you just randomly wandered around without a plan licking and humping everything.
Licks lastknightleft.

Dinner?

Sovereign Court

CourtFool wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:
I thought you just randomly wandered around without a plan licking and humping everything.
Licks lastknightleft.

I am magically delicious


lastknightleft wrote:
I am magically delicious

Coincidentally, so is Ahmadinejad.

Sovereign Court

CourtFool wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:
I am magically delicious
Coincidentally, so is Ahmadinejad.

Hmm, I guess I never figured you for the type to like the taste of rotten asparagus

Dark Archive

lastknightleft wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:
I thought you just randomly wandered around without a plan licking and humping everything.
Licks lastknightleft.
I am magically delicious

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!


Ahmanutjob sounds suspiciously like a crazy old french dude I once mauled.


I think he is a flaccid 3 inch populating tool.


lastknightleft wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:
I thought you just randomly wandered around without a plan licking and humping everything.
Licks lastknightleft.
I am magically delicious

BRAAAAAAINS!!!


lastknightleft wrote:
Hmm, I guess I never figured you for the type to like the taste of rotten asparagus

I lick my own butt. Your powers of deduction are horribly flawed.

Sovereign Court

CourtFool wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:
Hmm, I guess I never figured you for the type to like the taste of rotten asparagus
I lick my own butt. Your powers of deduction are horribly flawed.

Hey now, keep your crazy bedroom antics out of this messageboard, there are children present.

The Exchange

Ahmadinejad is not a tool, but a politician appealing to his constituency - i.e. not a bunch of Americans, but Iranians who hate Israel. That is politics in Iran, and his domestic popularity has been boosted by his speech.

Although, of course, him not being a tool doesn't make him a nice person.

The Exchange

Aubrey the Malformed wrote:

Ahmadinejad is not a tool, but a politician appealing to his constituency - i.e. not a bunch of Americans, but Iranians who hate Israel. That is politics in Iran, and his domestic popularity has been boosted by his speech.

Although, of course, him not being a tool doesn't make him a nice person.

Doesn't make him not a douche bag either.

The Exchange

No. But I get slightly irritated by these "Ahmadinejad" threads. He's not some comical figure for us to laugh at, but a dangerous leader of a potentially rogue nation that wishes to become nuclear-armed. Not very funny.

Scarab Sages

He's tool enough to be sold by Snap-On.


Dangerous and comical are not necessarily exclusive terms. Neither is dangerous and tool (either definition, or both).

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