I am beginning a ROTR campaign and I am limiting my players to only PFRPG Beta material and other Pathfinder materials for character generation. One of my players is contemplating running a Mystic Theurge. I do not want to go into the whole debate about wether the PrC's are worth taking given the overall abilities of the base classes. That has been well covered on the board. My question is about a feat from a non-OGL splatbook that I will not allow, because it is not Pathfinder (this is an experiment to see what kind of characters develop without the use of the multitudes of Feats from splatbooks). The feat to remain nameless allowed a bonus to caster level up to a maximum of +4 - you know the one. My question is this, is there any thing of a similar nature in any of the Pathfinder materials that I have not found?
To my knowledge, the only official beta pathfinder feats are the ones in the book/pdf and the ones in this thread (click here).
None of them reproduce the dreaded feat that shall not be named.
So, unless I've missed some other official feat proclamations, you're player will either have to take the hits in spellcaster levels of his mage and priest classes, or will have to beg/bribe/blackmail you to let him use the mysterious feat with no name.
By the way, why aren't we saying the name of the Practiced Sp... er, uh, I mean, the unnamed feat?
If you say its name, It will hear you
I am affraid if I name it, it will be made real.
I have to say that the feat that shall not be named is one of my personal favorites. I have seen it show up more often than Michael Cane, but I really want to try to stick to the pure PFRPG idea to get a feel for what I will carry over from the old non-OGL books to future campaigns using the PFRPG.
I suspect your issue may be the unintended cheese the feat sometimes caused, letting a player get into Mystic Theurge early. Personally I would allow the feat, but only to use as it was intended. Make a DM ruling and compromise with the player.
I have never allowed the feat myself. While it looks really good, it looks a bit to good. Some players can't handle too good if ya know what i mean
Isn't there a trait in the recent Pathfinder traits .pdf that does something similar?
Edit: Yep, it's called "Magical Knack". It only gives a +2 bonus, though.
P.S.
Practiced Spellcaster. Practiced Spellcaster. Practiced Spellcaster.
Yahweh. Yahweh. Yahweh.
Voldemort. Voldemort. Voldemort.
Candyman. Candyman. Candyman.
Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary.
Pazuzu. Pazuzu. Pazuzu.
Hastur. Hastur. Hastur.
It. It. It.
I'm running the same AP, with the same rules [at least when we started].
I've allowed a few things, one of which is the nameless Feat but with only a +2 bonus. The multi-class spontaneous casters in the group are all happy with the nerfed version.
I use Magic Rating, which is OGL from the Unearthed Arcana. Haven't found it to be broken at all yet.
However, on the strictly Pathfinder side, you need look no further than the free Traits Web Enhancement here, and lookup "Magical Knack" under Magic Traits. It gives +2 to the caster level of one class, as long as that would not increase it over your total HD.
I am beginning a ROTR campaign and I am limiting my players to only PFRPG Beta material and other Pathfinder materials for character generation. One of my players is contemplating running a Mystic Theurge. I do not want to go into the whole debate about wether the PrC's are worth taking given the overall abilities of the base classes. That has been well covered on the board. My question is about a feat from a non-OGL splatbook that I will not allow, because it is not Pathfinder (this is an experiment to see what kind of characters develop without the use of the multitudes of Feats from splatbooks). The feat to remain nameless allowed a bonus to caster level up to a maximum of +4 - you know the one. My question is this, is there any thing of a similar nature in any of the Pathfinder materials that I have not found?
Maybe I'm not getting something, but is it the Pathfinder version of the Mystic Theurge that is being discussed?
Practiced Spellcaster. Practiced Spellcaster. Practiced Spellcaster.
Yahweh. Yahweh. Yahweh.
Voldemort. Voldemort. Voldemort.
Candyman. Candyman. Candyman.
Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary.
Pazuzu. Pazuzu. Pazuzu.
Hastur. Hastur. Hastur.
It. It. It.
Now you're a heretic and a number of insane and/or powerful entities want to possess or kill you.
I wonder who will win the right to get you first.
Could somebody pass the pop corn, this is going to be a hell of a brawl.
The bloody mary thing doesn't work, though - I was in a bar once, and I shouted "bloody mary" at least a dozen times, but it didn't come. I blame the waitress.
Practiced Spellcaster. Practiced Spellcaster. Practiced Spellcaster.
Yahweh. Yahweh. Yahweh.
Voldemort. Voldemort. Voldemort.
Candyman. Candyman. Candyman.
Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary.
Pazuzu. Pazuzu. Pazuzu.
Hastur. Hastur. Hastur.
It. It. It.Now you're a heretic and a number of insane and/or powerful entities want to possess or kill you.
I wonder who will win the right to get you first.
Could somebody pass the pop corn, this is going to be a hell of a brawl.
The bloody mary thing doesn't work, though - I was in a bar once, and I shouted "bloody mary" at least a dozen times, but it didn't come. I blame the waitress.
Plus, at least some of those require a dark room with a mirror and I believe five repetitions of the name ... but the Unspeakable one isn't quite so picky :)
Isn't there a trait in the recent Pathfinder traits .pdf that does something similar?
Edit: Yep, it's called "Magical Knack". It only gives a +2 bonus, though.
P.S.
Practiced Spellcaster. Practiced Spellcaster. Practiced Spellcaster.
Yahweh. Yahweh. Yahweh.
Voldemort. Voldemort. Voldemort.
Candyman. Candyman. Candyman.
Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary.
Pazuzu. Pazuzu. Pazuzu.
Hastur. Hastur. Hastur.
It. It. It.
You forgot Beeteljuice. Beeteljuice. Beeteljuice.
I use Magic Rating, which is OGL from the Unearthed Arcana. Haven't found it to be broken at all yet.
However, on the strictly Pathfinder side, you need look no further than the free Traits Web Enhancement here, and lookup "Magical Knack" under Magic Traits. It gives +2 to the caster level of one class, as long as that would not increase it over your total HD.
Good catch.
It's half of the Feat-that-will-not-be-Named.
Oddly, you have to take this at level 1 (unless you're joining a group already at a higher level) when it will do you no good until at least level 2.
Still nice though.
but the Unspeakable one isn't quite so picky :)
Silly cultist! When I'm hungry it's enough for you to think it!
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