Chris Brown and Rihanna


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Can Chris Brown’s career survive?

I hope it does not. What Chris did was a real punk move. I do not care what the text message said. I do not care what Rihanna said. It is no excuse for the repeated punching and biting.

Scarab Sages

He should get the max time, 4 years is not enough.
It's sad that she went back to him. But it is something that happens all too often in cases like this. :mad: :sad:


I did not realize she had gone back to him. Le sigh.

Hey, Rihanna, I won't beat you. God it sucks being a 'nice guy'.

The Exchange

It does doesn't it?


CourtFool wrote:

I did not realize she had gone back to him. Le sigh.

Hey, Rihanna, I won't beat you. God it sucks being a 'nice guy'.

Nice guys get nowhere with girls like her. If she started dating a guy who treated her well she would soon get bored and dump him and go back to Chris.


Yes. I know. 38 years to figure it out. Who knows how long it would take me to change…assuming I want to.


Nice guys shouldn't WANT a gal like that.


CourtFool wrote:
Yes. I know. 38 years to figure it out. Who knows how long it would take me to change…assuming I want to.

You don't have to change, just fake being a jerk. Trust me, it works.


flynnster wrote:
Nice guys shouldn't WANT a gal like that.

Please elaborate.


Sure thing. Trash attracts and wants trash. Why would a typical nice guy want something that is given to attractions to superficial and flashy things...and is given to lowbrow culture?

Nice guys shouldn't want a gal like that.


Garydee wrote:
You don't have to change, just fake being a jerk. Trust me, it works.

I am still not convinced selling my soul to get what I want is the best choice. To one’s self be true and all that. Plus, I think a lot of women can see through that sort of fakery.


CourtFool wrote:
flynnster wrote:
Nice guys shouldn't WANT a gal like that.
Please elaborate.

Because she's a basket case herself. Don't get me wrong, a nice roll in the hay would be great. You wouldn't want a long term relationship with her though.


You are implying Rihanna was only interested in Chris Brown because of his bling? Are you further implying that hip hop is low-brow culture?


Garydee wrote:
Because she's a basket case herself.

Right. Compared to all the perfect women out there who are issueless.


CourtFool wrote:
Garydee wrote:
You don't have to change, just fake being a jerk. Trust me, it works.
Plus, I think a lot of women can see through that sort of fakery.

You would think so but not necessarily. If you know how to talk to them, you can make them believe anything. But as you said, it's not the right way of doing things.


CourtFool wrote:
Garydee wrote:
Because she's a basket case herself.
Right. Compared to all the perfect women out there who are issueless.

Yeah, you have a point there. :)


CourtFool wrote:

You are implying Rihanna was only interested in Chris Brown because of his bling?

No, I am saying that like attracts like.

CourtFool wrote:


Are you further implying that hip hop is low-brow culture?

Emphatically, yes. It is about as nutrionally vacant as cotton candy.


I do not know Rihanna on a personal level, so I have no way of knowing if I would really like her as a person. I find her and her voice attractive and given the opportunity I would like to get to know her better.

If she really is a whacked out gold digger, then you are probably right. I would not want her. Can you offer any evidence to back up this claim?

Many women stay with abusive partners. I think it is naïve to chalk it up to just being a head case.

The Exchange

flynnster wrote:
It is about as nutrionally vacant as cotton candy.

I have to remember that one.


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CourtFool wrote:


Many women stay with abusive partners. I think it is naïve to chalk it up to just being a head case.

I don't know. Anybody in their right mind wouldn't tolerate it.


Garydee wrote:
I don't know. Anybody in their right mind wouldn't tolerate it.

Perhaps there is some sort of link to the Stockholm Syndrome ?


flynnster wrote:
No, I am saying that like attracts like.

I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

flynnster wrote:
Emphatically, yes. It is about as nutrionally vacant as cotton candy.

I will have to agree to disagree.


CourtFool wrote:
I will have to agree to disagree.

Ehhh, not surprised...but..<clears throat>...ok with me.


Why are you not surprised?


I the grand scheme of things, why does it matter to you?


You thought it important enough to post. I am curious to hear what you have to say.


flynnster wrote:
Garydee wrote:
I don't know. Anybody in their right mind wouldn't tolerate it.
Perhaps there is some sort of link to the Stockholm Syndrome ?

That might indeed be an explanation, as those who stay with an abusive partner are known to defend the abuser and deny that anything is wrong - not in all cases, but it happens. And in many cases, the women (who are most likely to be the abused) return to their abusing partner after leaving them.

Stefan


CourtFool wrote:
You thought it important enough to post. I am curious to hear what you have to say.

*chuckle*

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

Nice guys get nowhere with women in general.

Word to the wise. They aren't looking for "nice".

FYI.

Dark Archive

Erik Mona wrote:

Nice guys get nowhere with women in general.

Word to the wise. They aren't looking for "nice".

FYI.

Yup. Here's one woman's reason. In brief, Good guys may challenge our minds, but bad boys test our mettle. A significantly more erotic interplay.


Yeah, I'd vowed that if I had once more heard "but youre a big teddy-bear...like my big brother!" that I'd go postal...

And then I got Erik Mona's avatar treatment...and with the attitude that comes along with green skin pressing your hairline to your spine and a single eye...VIOLA!!!!!

I am now with a wonderful woman, seven years my junior and a MILLION TIMES better looking than I ever could have possibly hoped for....

In all seriousness...nice guys get nowhere...until women run the retinue of jerks and hit their thirties...then all of a sudden sincerety and stability is a wonderful thing...

Love ya Candy :)


Erik Mona wrote:

Nice guys get nowhere with women in general.

Word to the wise. They aren't looking for "nice".

FYI.

Nice guys do, they just have to find nice girls. Unfortunately much like the women who are drawn to handsome drunken moody abusive 'bad boys', men are often attracted to flashy trashy pretty vacant 'bad girls'. You have to look past what society says is desirable and try to stay away from the steroetypes. I've dated hot stupid women before, it's not that great. I find the 'hotness' wears off a lot faster than the 'stupid' does. Find a good, intellectual woman who loves you for yourself, and love her for herself. Don't expect her to look like Jessica Alba and maybe she won't expect you to look like Brad Pitt.


Erik Mona wrote:

Nice guys get nowhere with women in general.

Word to the wise. They aren't looking for "nice".

FYI.

Wise words indeed Eric. Jerks get the girls and nice guys get put into the "friend" category.

Liberty's Edge

Nice guys end up being married to bossy women, at best, and domineering psychos, at worst.

This is my experience, anyway. I have always been a "nice guy."

I ended up marrying a bossy, but otherwise sane and loveable woman.

I did, however, waste three precious years of my college days with a domineering psycho who had me convinced that I was the only one who understood her and her mood swings, embarassing public meltdowns, etc. and that she would be miserable without me, blah blah blah.

And like a sap with a misplaced sense of chivalry, I tried...FAR TOO LONG...to make that relationship work.

Word of advice, if the damsel in distress is a psycho, leave her to the dragon.


Cuchulainn wrote:

I ended up marrying a bossy, but otherwise sane and loveable woman.

Sorry spud...you chose to end up with a bossy woman. Being nice doesn't dictate this. Placid and serene are commonly used words to describe my gal Candy....

Paizo Employee Director of Sales

flynnster wrote:


CourtFool wrote:


Are you further implying that hip hop is low-brow culture?
Emphatically, yes. It is about as nutrionally vacant as cotton candy.

[threadjack]

You can dislike it, and that's just fine... but that statement is just plain untrue.

[/threadjack]


Cosmo wrote:

You can dislike it, and that's just fine... but that statement is just plain untrue.

Cosmo...so sorry...

WRONG YOU ARE. *shrug*


CourtFool wrote:
Are you further implying that hip hop is low-brow culture?

If it outrages you, I'll not only imply it, I'll state it.

Still, gotta love Rihanna, which means I must join the cries for CB's head. Whatta piece of work.

EDIT: Oh shoot, late to the party.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
If it outrages you, I'll not only imply it, I'll state it.

I'll be outraged just for you, Mairkurion {tm}.

Licks Mairkurion {tm}, then puts on his outraged face which is pretty much the same vacant stare, with tongue hanging out.

Silver Crusade

Another call for Chris Brown's head here. Damn shame.

Cosmo wrote:
flynnster wrote:


CourtFool wrote:


Are you further implying that hip hop is low-brow culture?
Emphatically, yes. It is about as nutrionally vacant as cotton candy.

[threadjack]

You can dislike it, and that's just fine... but that statement is just plain untrue.

[/threadjack]

Affirmed.

Also, thanks for turning me onto Aesop Rock.

Scarab Sages

Back in college, my fraternity brothers and I kicked out a member because he beat on his girlfriend. We also encouraged her to press charges, but to no avail.

Chris Brown should be ashamed of himself. In my opinion, he isn't even a real man.

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

It should be noted that there is a significant difference between "pop music" and "hip-hop".

They are not the same thing. Just because some pop POS is vacant and facile, you can't paint an entire musical (and even lifestyle) genre as empty.

That's like saying all fantasy fiction is vapid based on a sampling of one Terry Brooks novel.

Grand Lodge

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I can't imagine Rihanna as a gold digger because I think her albums are making more money that CB's.


Erik Mona wrote:

It should be noted that there is a significant difference between "pop music" and "hip-hop".

They are not the same thing. Just because some pop POS is vacant and facile, you can't paint an entire musical (and even lifestyle) genre as empty.

That's like saying all fantasy fiction is vapid based on a sampling of one Terry Brooks novel.

Lo siento, Seor Mona...

you're WRONG :)


flynnster wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

It should be noted that there is a significant difference between "pop music" and "hip-hop".

They are not the same thing. Just because some pop POS is vacant and facile, you can't paint an entire musical (and even lifestyle) genre as empty.

That's like saying all fantasy fiction is vapid based on a sampling of one Terry Brooks novel.

Lo siento, Seor Mona...

you're WRONG :)

So Public Enemy, NWA, Ice T (with and without Body Count), Ice Cube, Tupac Shakur, Eminem, Kanye West and a host of others are vapid and low brow? Wow. Hip hop has it share of the 'B&~@~es, blunts and forties" mentality, but so does rock, and jazz for that matter. It's like discounting all heavy metal because of Winger, Striper and Poison.


Kids taday don't know about the JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZ...

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

More to the point, condemning genuinely thought-provoking and excellent material from the likes of DJ Shadow, Kid Koala, DJ Vadim, the Cut Chemist, Sarah Jones, Lupe Fiasco, and similar artists is just plain ignorance.

It's understandable to say something like "I don't like any of the rap I've ever heard," or "the hip-hop they play on my local Top 40 radio station makes me want to pull out my eyes and ears at the same time," but extrapolating this minimal experience with the subject matter to condemn an entire cultural movement is taking several steps too far.

Or, you know, what was said above about Winger and Stryper.

Liberty's Edge

My question: why does anyone care?


About the CB/R case? Because violence against women by the men they're in relationship is a huge problem. (If I somehow missed your comment and am stating the obvious, sorry.)

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