
CourtFool |

Can Chris Brown’s career survive?
I hope it does not. What Chris did was a real punk move. I do not care what the text message said. I do not care what Rihanna said. It is no excuse for the repeated punching and biting.

Garydee |

Garydee wrote:You don't have to change, just fake being a jerk. Trust me, it works.Plus, I think a lot of women can see through that sort of fakery.
You would think so but not necessarily. If you know how to talk to them, you can make them believe anything. But as you said, it's not the right way of doing things.

CourtFool |

I do not know Rihanna on a personal level, so I have no way of knowing if I would really like her as a person. I find her and her voice attractive and given the opportunity I would like to get to know her better.
If she really is a whacked out gold digger, then you are probably right. I would not want her. Can you offer any evidence to back up this claim?
Many women stay with abusive partners. I think it is naïve to chalk it up to just being a head case.

flynnster |

I don't know. Anybody in their right mind wouldn't tolerate it.
Perhaps there is some sort of link to the Stockholm Syndrome ?

Stebehil |

Garydee wrote:I don't know. Anybody in their right mind wouldn't tolerate it.Perhaps there is some sort of link to the Stockholm Syndrome ?
That might indeed be an explanation, as those who stay with an abusive partner are known to defend the abuser and deny that anything is wrong - not in all cases, but it happens. And in many cases, the women (who are most likely to be the abused) return to their abusing partner after leaving them.
Stefan

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Nice guys get nowhere with women in general.
Word to the wise. They aren't looking for "nice".
FYI.
Yup. Here's one woman's reason. In brief, Good guys may challenge our minds, but bad boys test our mettle. A significantly more erotic interplay.

flynnster |

Yeah, I'd vowed that if I had once more heard "but youre a big teddy-bear...like my big brother!" that I'd go postal...
And then I got Erik Mona's avatar treatment...and with the attitude that comes along with green skin pressing your hairline to your spine and a single eye...VIOLA!!!!!
I am now with a wonderful woman, seven years my junior and a MILLION TIMES better looking than I ever could have possibly hoped for....
In all seriousness...nice guys get nowhere...until women run the retinue of jerks and hit their thirties...then all of a sudden sincerety and stability is a wonderful thing...
Love ya Candy :)

Patrick Curtin |

Nice guys get nowhere with women in general.
Word to the wise. They aren't looking for "nice".
FYI.
Nice guys do, they just have to find nice girls. Unfortunately much like the women who are drawn to handsome drunken moody abusive 'bad boys', men are often attracted to flashy trashy pretty vacant 'bad girls'. You have to look past what society says is desirable and try to stay away from the steroetypes. I've dated hot stupid women before, it's not that great. I find the 'hotness' wears off a lot faster than the 'stupid' does. Find a good, intellectual woman who loves you for yourself, and love her for herself. Don't expect her to look like Jessica Alba and maybe she won't expect you to look like Brad Pitt.

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Nice guys end up being married to bossy women, at best, and domineering psychos, at worst.
This is my experience, anyway. I have always been a "nice guy."
I ended up marrying a bossy, but otherwise sane and loveable woman.
I did, however, waste three precious years of my college days with a domineering psycho who had me convinced that I was the only one who understood her and her mood swings, embarassing public meltdowns, etc. and that she would be miserable without me, blah blah blah.
And like a sap with a misplaced sense of chivalry, I tried...FAR TOO LONG...to make that relationship work.
Word of advice, if the damsel in distress is a psycho, leave her to the dragon.

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Another call for Chris Brown's head here. Damn shame.
flynnster wrote:
CourtFool wrote:Emphatically, yes. It is about as nutrionally vacant as cotton candy.
Are you further implying that hip hop is low-brow culture?[threadjack]
You can dislike it, and that's just fine... but that statement is just plain untrue.
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Also, thanks for turning me onto Aesop Rock.

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It should be noted that there is a significant difference between "pop music" and "hip-hop".
They are not the same thing. Just because some pop POS is vacant and facile, you can't paint an entire musical (and even lifestyle) genre as empty.
That's like saying all fantasy fiction is vapid based on a sampling of one Terry Brooks novel.

flynnster |

It should be noted that there is a significant difference between "pop music" and "hip-hop".
They are not the same thing. Just because some pop POS is vacant and facile, you can't paint an entire musical (and even lifestyle) genre as empty.
That's like saying all fantasy fiction is vapid based on a sampling of one Terry Brooks novel.
Lo siento, Seor Mona...
you're WRONG :)

Patrick Curtin |

Erik Mona wrote:It should be noted that there is a significant difference between "pop music" and "hip-hop".
They are not the same thing. Just because some pop POS is vacant and facile, you can't paint an entire musical (and even lifestyle) genre as empty.
That's like saying all fantasy fiction is vapid based on a sampling of one Terry Brooks novel.
Lo siento, Seor Mona...
you're WRONG :)
So Public Enemy, NWA, Ice T (with and without Body Count), Ice Cube, Tupac Shakur, Eminem, Kanye West and a host of others are vapid and low brow? Wow. Hip hop has it share of the 'B&~@~es, blunts and forties" mentality, but so does rock, and jazz for that matter. It's like discounting all heavy metal because of Winger, Striper and Poison.

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More to the point, condemning genuinely thought-provoking and excellent material from the likes of DJ Shadow, Kid Koala, DJ Vadim, the Cut Chemist, Sarah Jones, Lupe Fiasco, and similar artists is just plain ignorance.
It's understandable to say something like "I don't like any of the rap I've ever heard," or "the hip-hop they play on my local Top 40 radio station makes me want to pull out my eyes and ears at the same time," but extrapolating this minimal experience with the subject matter to condemn an entire cultural movement is taking several steps too far.
Or, you know, what was said above about Winger and Stryper.