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Now that's an angel in the CS Lewis style.
Out of the way, chubby angel-babies -- zoomorphic angels are here to kick ass! (Or just big fiery ones with extra fists to punch, crush, and toss you.) Matthew, you'd have liked an exhibit that was here in Fort Worth a few years back: Assyrian relief sculpture, which was dominated by zoomorphic angels and demons.
Yes, the beams of today's blog warmed the frozen recesses of my art and preview starved soul. Maybe it is spring after all?
So, are we all agreed that these strange newcomers "Vadid and Nakh" kick the hell out of those worthless interns?
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Now that's an angel in the CS Lewis style.
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Agreed. Probably the first time that a celestial being depicted in D&D art is so much awe-inspiring (to me, at least).
I like the concept of scary-looking benign outsiders: after all they're absolute embodiments (spelling?) of an ideal from another dimension of existance. They have to look somewhat threatening.
Now that's just cool. :)
...after all they're absolute embodiments of an ideal from another dimension of existence. They have to look somewhat threatening.
Oh man. I keep trying to go back to work, but people keep saying things that require me to say more. Drawing me back in with Lewis...who would say that Golem101 is 101% correct. But just a tweak: "another" dimension is really the higher analogue of this existence. The existences "participate" in each other. This existence is the lower reflection of the higher one/that existence is the higher reflection of this one. The reality of this existence is dependent on the higher realm of reality, derived from it and destined to return to it in some way (not union in the sense of absorption or annihilation). Anyway, thanks for the unavoidable temptation of bringing medieval/renascence developments of Platonism into your gaming. I now return you to the goading of interns and the pleading for previews.
HAHA! oh man...
edit-We are still getting our classic OGL angels in Golarion(and thus the Pathfinder Bestiary), right? Astrals, planetars, and solars and such?
Yup yup yup, though we did take a more pseudo-traditional route when concerning wings. Expect more. Don't worry, it looks cool.
edit-We are still getting our classic OGL angels in Golarion(and thus the Pathfinder Bestiary), right? Astrals, planetars, and solars and such?
What Wesley said. Now admittedly, Golarion's angels will be a bit different as a group in what they represent versus the AD&D/3e aasimon/angels as a collective group of outsiders.
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edit-We are still getting our classic OGL angels in Golarion(and thus the Pathfinder Bestiary), right? Astrals, planetars, and solars and such?Yup yup yup, though we did take a more pseudo-traditional route when concerning wings. Expect more. Don't worry, it looks cool.
Cool! As long as the planetars are still bald jolly green giants I'm golden!
God only knows how that became my idea of the iconic D&D angel "look".
What Wesley said. Now admittedly, Golarion's angels will be a bit different as a group in what they represent versus the AD&D/3e aasimon/angels as a collective group of outsiders.
I think I remember reading something about that earlier. They're not being made into the guardinal's replacement as the NG exemplar outsider race, right? They're still spread over the good alignments?(I'm guessing so, considering the Empyreans are spread evenly across CG,NG, and LG) If you can give that away, that is. ;)
Angels will finally get their peacock feathered wings? Three sets of wings?
Breaks out in an enthusiastic "dance" while fellow posters avert their eyes...
Oh yeah! I'm tempted to say something about angels having legs like that...but I'll be good.
Now to get those peacock feathers...
Breaks out in an enthusiastic "dance" while fellow posters avert their eyes...I didn't think anyone still did the Macarena...
Of is that the "Chicken Dance"? Hard to tell with all the feathers :)
It's a fan dance! What, are you people deaf? Couldn't you hear all the whistling!?
So, are we all agreed that these strange newcomers "Vadid and Nakh" kick the hell out of those worthless interns?I think that's safe to say. Let's see how well they keep up the previews.
Stupid replacements...
I heerd tell that those replacements were getting paid DOUBLE what you guys were gettin'!!!
Cool! As long as the planetars are still bald jolly green giants I'm golden!
No worries then!
Sorry to wander off the topic a bit, but the Screwtape Letters were mentioned here. Is that a good book? Does it require you to buy wholesale into classical Christian belief or can you still enjoy it without feeling looked funnily at when you consider the bible more a set of moral tales than a documentary?
I read a page or so from amazone's preview, and it did sound a bit like the book implied that if you don't believe in all the christian principles with all your heart, you'll be taking the south bound highway on the express lane.
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Sorry to wander off the topic a bit, but the Screwtape Letters were mentioned here. Is that a good book? Does it require you to buy wholesale into classical Christian belief or can you still enjoy it without feeling looked funnily at when you consider the bible more a set of moral tales than a documentary?
I read a page or so from amazone's preview, and it did sound a bit like the book implied that if you don't believe in all the christian principles with all your heart, you'll be taking the south bound highway on the express lane.
Well shoot me for being a bad Christian, but it's been a while since I read them.
There's a lot of commentary on the nature of humanity from a Christian POV, but I enjoyed reading the commentary from Screwtape to his nephew and the whys and hows of corruption.
It's been a while since I read it, but I don't remember STL being heavy-handed. Takes look at Amazon. I'm not sure what you may have seen there, with all the reviews. Is "look inside" available to you? In the US, you could pretty easily pick it up at the public library, but I'm not sure what your chances are, Kaeyoss. John Cleese does the audio version in English. I'd say the biggest thing might be whether you would enjoy reflective humor (internal human foibles and flaws) or not.
Sorry to wander off the topic a bit, but the Screwtape Letters were mentioned here. Is that a good book? Does it require you to buy wholesale into classical Christian belief or can you still enjoy it without feeling looked funnily at when you consider the bible more a set of moral tales than a documentary?
I read a page or so from amazone's preview, and it did sound a bit like the book implied that if you don't believe in all the christian principles with all your heart, you'll be taking the south bound highway on the express lane.
I can say as a practicing atheist that I still gained much enjoyment from The Screwtape Letters.
I think I remember reading something about that earlier. They're not being made into the guardinal's replacement as the NG exemplar outsider race, right? They're still spread over the good alignments?(I'm guessing so, considering the Empyreans are spread evenly across CG,NG, and LG) If you can give that away, that is. ;)
--Mind that anything I say is subject to editorial change.--
Empyreal is a broad grouping, it can apply to any of the Good alignments - being one of the Empyreal Lords is the analog of calling the unique NE/CE/LE fiendish nobility collectively Archfiends.
As for the various "angels": NG has a dualistic split between the guardinal replacements and angels, with each representing a different facet of that alignment and a different outlook of how they serve their home plane of Nirvana. Much more detail on this in TGB.
It's been a while since I read it, but I don't remember STL being heavy-handed.
It's a very well-done book, and I don't consider it to be heavy-handed (though, I define 'heavy-handed' as 'like the cr@p you see in LaHaye and Jenkins' travesty of a series', so your mileage may vary).
And that's some awesome work on the angel.
Thanks for the preview, Todd!
BANG!
Eric, I'm tempted by your comments to go into some purple prose, but I'd probably just offend someone I'd not guess I'd offend, and then be sorry for it. So imagine all sorts of strong things being said forceably and with panache, and enjoy.
I really dig this angel. It's how I like my angels, large, frightening and otherworldly. Remind me a bit of Tyrael from Diablo II (which I always thought was damned cool). So yeah. Color me a fan.
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Cool beans, Wes!
I think I remember reading something about that earlier. They're not being made into the guardinal's replacement as the NG exemplar outsider race, right? They're still spread over the good alignments?(I'm guessing so, considering the Empyreans are spread evenly across CG,NG, and LG) If you can give that away, that is. ;)--Mind that anything I say is subject to editorial change.--
Empyreal is a broad grouping, it can apply to any of the Good alignments - being one of the Empyreal Lords is the analog of calling the unique NE/CE/LE fiendish nobility collectively Archfiends.
As for the various "angels": NG has a dualistic split between the guardinal replacements and angels, with each representing a different facet of that alignment and a different outlook of how they serve their home plane of Nirvana. Much more detail on this in TGB.
Aces! I realized a bit after posting that I was mistaken in assuming there would be no guardinals at all in Golarion, what with all the references to that avoral in Andoran's history. I just can't keep what is and isn't open content straight off memory these days.
Also seconding The Screwtape Letters to any DM looking to set the mood for any devils they may be throwing at their party.
That's totally a trumpet archon!
Tyrael from Diablo II
Yeah, Tyrael was awesome! The game might become boring fast, but that archangel rocked.