OK, Now that our little storytelling game has kinda mutated beyond all reckoning, I am creating this thread to post up any Out Of Character issues anyone has with the ongoing OTD storyline.
To Summarize:
The Steel Tsar and Candle Lighter prepare to take on the heroes currently taking council at Club Calistria. The Steel Tsar is the Champion of Flame, pledging fealty to Candle Lighter after his creation by the Anarcho-Syndicalist Peasant over at the Realm of King David and the Paizochat roundtable. The peasant was killed for his troubles.
Candle Lighter has just killed the Kitten Vikings off. Alaina has been hit by Earth energy accidentally, but has recovered, with the addition of an intersting back tat. The Tree Emperor has proclaimed her the Fire Flower.
Lynora-Jill has regrown her wings and been proclaimed Champion of the Winds. The Bard (and his son Rio) have taken the Champion of the Sea position. Jack Hammer has become the Champion of Earth. The Council of the Winds has landed at the Roleplaying Thread, but has yet to act. Lynora-Jill is attempting to find Sunny Godhead to enlist his aid in discovering the Spark of Life a possible weapon to use against the dracolich Candle Lighter and his construct lieutenant The Steel Tsar.
A new hero, the Dalesman, has just arrived at Club Calistria. The mysterious Eighth Runelord has been involved in several shady negotiations offstage. Several Jacks are among the heroes, as is Rio's pokemons and Margarinefrog and Lemmiwinks (for what they are worth)
The Thieving Wasp is the Heir to Kobold Cleaver, a Lord of the Board, who is currnetly trapped with the Goddess of Dangerous Knowledge who was cast out of Lynora-Jill earlier in the story. KCs sacrifice made it possible to imprison the Goddess, but he is imprisoned as well. His Cleaver was originally picked up by the Grey Mouser, who didn't realize its raw power until it blew the Crimson Crime Syndicate's vault to smithereens. The Grey Mouser, after attempting to stop the Steel Tsar now searches for his guildleader Crimson Jester who holds the Jack Thread's Trimillenial post. He hopes to use its power to stop the Steel Tsar who is powered by stolen Jack energy ...
Big breath
OK, I'm sure I forgot lots of stuff, but lets roll with that summary for now. I propose Friday evening (2/20/09) at some point getting together and writing up a good battle. Some rules I propose:
1. No TKOs. Its not really fun when you write: ' My guy rips Evil dude X's head off'.
2. If there is a problem, we can hash it out here (why I'm making this thread)
3. Anyone wanna make up some disposable characters to die, that would be great.
Soo ..what do y'all think?
You forgot. JH can outdrink any of the other Jacks, since Frat Jack is busy.
Other than that I'm open for tomorrow.
Btw Patrick, you're going to have to bring back the peasant somehow. He's WAY too much fun to beat up on. :)
Wasn't KC trapped inside of lynora-Jill's mind, along with the evil goddess? Did I miss a step?
BTW, JH was 1st modified by the evil godess' ancient knowledge and tailored by her angry and destructive nature. (I was playing off her original idea of an opposing nature.) Will she reappear? The Earth's mod created JH's inner and outer turmoil.
KC's two main avatars are at the forefront of this conflict, but I hope there's room for the rest of us. Maybe I'm being a primadona but I feel like we're on the sidelines, and kinda powerless. Hopefully it's just me, and I'm off base.
I apologize but this is my 1st pbp, so I don't know what to expect.
Unless there was more than one imitation around, and I swapped an imitation for an imitation? :)
Guys, we don't need to use ooc chat. This IS the OOC thread! :D
Also, I was originally gonna insist that that post be non-canon, but decided that it was a cool twist. Just so you know.Here's my take on the Cleaver:
It was taken by the Tsar, and fused to its arm. However, the Kitten Shaman intervened, and stole it back with magic.
Then, he teleported the Cleaver to the Runelord (I just added that part, but it sounds better. The Kitten had everything planned out in advance, after all), who switched it with a fake with only minimal powers and hid the real one away.
How does that sound?
Wasn't KC trapped inside of lynora-Jill's mind, along with the evil goddess? Did I miss a step?
BTW, JH was 1st modified by the evil godess' ancient knowledge and tailored by her angry and destructive nature. Will she reappear? The Earth's mod created JH's inner and outer turmoil.
KC's two main avatars are at the forefront of this conflict, but I hope there's room for the rest of us. Maybe I'm being a primadona but I feel like we're on the sidelines, and kinda powerless. Hopefully it's just me, and I'm off base.
Sorry. I'm just kinda used to pretty much having my RP things be ignored, so I usually have to lead the whole thing.
Also, the goddess will never return unless Lynora wants her to. However, as long as the goddess is bound, so is KC. The two can be contacted, though, and can attempt to send messages to Lynora. The wards garble them a lot, though.
Ahh, understood. Been there.
So the endgame isn't to free the Cleaver from his self-imposed exile? It seems like CL is close to invulnerable, or catchable/banish-able, which is why I started along the lines of weakening/drawing off some of his power.
I was spinning my part into a destruction/life or elemental/stable conflict. But it is pretty epic.
Either way JH's powers will go dormant at the end. Back to drinking and brawling.
Ahh, understood. Been there.
So the endgame isn't to free the Cleaver from his self-imposed exile? It seems like CL is close to invulnerable, or catchable/banish-able, which is why I started along the lines of weakening/drawing off some of his power.
I was spinning my part into a destruction/life or elemental/stable conflict. But it is pretty epic.
Either way JH's powers will go dormant at the end. Back to drinking and brawling.
Heh.
And I never denied that KC might need to be freed at some point. KC was fully aware that this might become necessary. I'm just saying that the consequences would be dire.However, this is something new: If KC and the goddess were freed, then they would both stay in Lynora's body. They (and Lynora herself)would constantly be warring for control. A little 'I can manage best' argument might even erupt between Lynora and KC.
However, with so many free souls in her body, the souls would be easier to banish, thus making it possible to 'destroy' the goddess.
This is just some brainstorming, mind you. Nothing's set in stone.
Quite simply, Candle Lighter is very difficult to kill. The Bard and the Tsar are more or less equal {bear in mind evaporation |:}). CL tips the scale. The other champions are too weak to make much of a difference. Which is why I'm pressing this 'into Lynora's mind' thing. KC can give them all power (except JH, but someone else will have to help him). Lynora gets some of the Goddess's power, Wasp gets KC's.
This is my plan for the whole 'into her mind' thing, at least.
G'night!
I'm definitely up for doing the big battle tomorrow night.
As far as the goddess goes, you should probably come up with some sort of obscure ritual that essentially blows her up, allowing you to use the backlash of divine power to give KC a new body and give a little oomph to those fighting against Candle Lighter. I can always have some insane follower putting the goddess back together piece by piece if I want to use her again in the future. And that lets LJ just be an ordinary half-celestial cleric going forward. Phenomenal cosmic powers are a bit much in the day to day, and I think it would be good to let LJ have her mind to herself.
I've been trying to do some behind the scenes nudging of the other Runelords, but the ones I've been able to contact are busy with other things, and whilst The Eighth Runelord would love to personally tie Candle Lighter up in knots, under the current circumstances he prefers to leave other people to do things in case the other Runelords get jealous (Envy, Greed, Pride and Wrath in particular.)
For now The Eighth Runelord has gone about as far as he's willing to go - there are too many different possible futures without his having a direct stake in it or backup from other 'senior' Runelords for him to do any more. Moving the Cleaver to the Runelord Roundtable thread, leaving an imitation (always fun for some bad guy to have things fall apart on him, just as he thinks that he has acheived victory, because he was using the wrong item), and planting a hoard in Candle Lighter's lair if necessary to keep the Fiendish Ape happy are about his limits.
Technically, CL doesn't have the Cleaver anymore. Neither does the ST. Not the real one, not the fake one. Wasp has it.
Also, Charles, could you please stop making posts saying that CL will lose? I know he probably will (otherwise it'd suck)but it's sorta godmodding to just be able to say 'poof, he's gonna lose'. Please stop.
The Seas power lies in its strength and Time. Its depths team with life.
I'd like to see if I can use my 'Time power' to restore CL to a semblance of life, thus weakening him.
I'd like to see if I can use my 'Time power' to restore CL to a semblance of life, thus weakening him.
The Seas power lies in its strength and Time. Its depths team with life.
I had viewed the Time connection as the Sea erodes Earth over time stripping old life and providing new. Reversing it works great. Slowly building life back onto un-life.
I had viewed the Time connection as the Sea erodes Earth over time stripping old life and providing new. Reversing it works great. Slowly building life back onto un-life.I'd like to see if I can use my 'Time power' to restore CL to a semblance of life, thus weakening him.
The Seas power lies in its strength and Time. Its depths team with life.
Boards are getting borked up again. I gotta go.
Also, I have an idea: If the Board crashes, we move everything to DMTools. With Lilith's permission, of course. And it'd be a separate chatroom.As a chatroom, I think it's less likely to crash. It'll make a decent backup.
Thoughts? Also, bye.
Do you still want to build the Time thing off of the Spark of Life thing, using that as a starting point, or as an alternative solution? Either way is cool. I just want to have some idea of whether LJ should have had any success at soliciting help at the Solar Temple or not.
Boards are getting borked up again. I gotta go.
Also, I have an idea: If the Board crashes, we move everything to DMTools. With Lilith's permission, of course. And it'd be a separate chatroom.
As a chatroom, I think it's less likely to crash. It'll make a decent backup.
Thoughts? Also, bye.
DMTools does make a good backup, just in case.
Do you still want to build the Time thing off of the Spark of Life thing, using that as a starting point, or as an alternative solution? Either way is cool. I just want to have some idea of whether LJ should have had any success at soliciting help at the Solar Temple or not.
The Spark is in the Spell Compendium and is a cleric/druid spell so Emperor can give it to you as well. But the Sun Power works great as a tie in against the undead. Maybe combine the two to overcome spell resistance?
Honestly I'm rolling a one trying to organize this thing (and my roles) in my mind, and getting a bit frustrated. I'm hoping that strategizing isn't a wasted effort, and our actions actually have a chance to influence things. It seems that we have several very different opinions flying around. I want it to be enjoyable for all.
Relax, Emperor7. Just have fun with it. We're all working on this together. We all get to take part in the fun. You've already added a ton of good ideas to the story. I think we'll all get a chance to participate in the fight.
post about growing frustration. maybe it's fatigue.
Post more at 4{10:48 for me now)
Hey everyone! Just got into the boards, and can see I am far behind the power curve! I have barely begun to skim the info, but I will try and stay up. I had a lot of good ideas for lead up, but of course the boards were down this morning and I have been super busy. Give me some time to get myself caught up and I will start bringing in my characters.
One thing I think we should all keep in mind is that the main point of this is to collaborate and have fun. We are not contesting for gold, XP, or anything else, just riffing on RP fantasy improv. I would hope everyone can have a good time with it.
I know the Steel Tsar will end up with his head up on the Crimson Crime's mantlepiece. It's not the destination, it's the journey that is important. Everyone who has contributed to this in the past week has really dome a fantastic job. I have LOLed and almost wept in turn. You should all give yourself a big pat on the back for weaving all your stories together with little prior discussion. Impov is the hardest acting to to, because if you can't work well with others the whole house of cards falls down.
Just want to say thanks to everyone for participating! :)
One thing I think we should all keep in mind is that the main point of this is to collaborate and have fun. We are not contesting for gold, XP, or anything else, just riffing on RP fantasy improv. I would hope everyone can have a good time with it.
I know the Steel Tsar will end up with his head up on the Crimson Crime's mantlepiece. It's not the destination, it's the journey that is important. Everyone who has contributed to this in the past week has really dome a fantastic job. I have LOLed and almost wept in turn. You should all give yourself a big pat on the back for weaving all your stories together with little prior discussion. Impov is the hardest acting to to, because if you can't work well with others the whole house of cards falls down.
Just want to say thanks to everyone for participating! :)
Just adding my agreement here. Honestly, I have had an absolute blast with this game. I used to do something similar with one of my friends in high school, and I can't tell you how much I've missed it. So add in my thanks as well.
Just adding my agreement here. Honestly, I have had an absolute blast with this game. I used to do something similar with one of my friends in high school, and I can't tell you how much I've missed it. So add in my thanks as well.One thing I think we should all keep in mind is that the main point of this is to collaborate and have fun. We are not contesting for gold, XP, or anything else, just riffing on RP fantasy improv. I would hope everyone can have a good time with it.
I know the Steel Tsar will end up with his head up on the Crimson Crime's mantlepiece. It's not the destination, it's the journey that is important. Everyone who has contributed to this in the past week has really dome a fantastic job. I have LOLed and almost wept in turn. You should all give yourself a big pat on the back for weaving all your stories together with little prior discussion. Impov is the hardest acting to to, because if you can't work well with others the whole house of cards falls down.
Just want to say thanks to everyone for participating! :)
The same. This is a LOT more fun than trying to kill the s^^urfs. ;)
Well, this is the first time trying my hand at this sort of thing, despite 23 years of gaming. Since nobody's flagged me yet, I guess I'm doing okay, neh? ;P
I just wish I had more free time to put into this little shindig - this is pretty cool!
Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"
Well, this is the first time trying my hand at this sort of thing, despite 23 years of gaming. Since nobody's flagged me yet, I guess I'm doing okay, neh? ;P
I just wish I had more free time to put into this little shindig - this is pretty cool!
Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"
First time trying something this improvisational for me, despite 30 years of gaming and runing four PbPs. I like hte freeform innovation and the lack of rules nattering..
*gives everyone a pat on the back*
Do you still want to build the Time thing off of the Spark of Life thing, using that as a starting point, or as an alternative solution? Either way is cool. I just want to have some idea of whether LJ should have had any success at soliciting help at the Solar Temple or not.
I think the Spark will work best after I start to reverse Candle Lighter's dracoliching, so I don't have to do it all and neither does the Spark.
Do you still want to build the Time thing off of the Spark of Life thing, using that as a starting point, or as an alternative solution? Either way is cool. I just want to have some idea of whether LJ should have had any success at soliciting help at the Solar Temple or not.I think the Spark will work best after I start to reverse Candle Lighter's dracoliching, so I don't have to do it all and neither does the Spark.
Just so you know, the 'de-dracoliching' will not work.
Sorry, but that would practically eliminate him as a threat. It would be like diminishing his Sorcerer Level to 2. He's probably going to counterspell it. Or maybe dodge it. Or just resist it.Sorry. But if he dies, it's gonna be from the Spark. And even then, part of him may endure. Just so that there will be room for the 'into Lynora's mind' thing.
By the way, everyone who does not mind their character being killed by CL, please email me at
KC, the Dalesman is suggesting stealing the book from the dracolich, so we could have it more as a race against time, frantically reading the book trying to get through the ritual in time while they're fighting the dracolich. Plus, the thing with the Bard using his Time powers is probably going to get combined with the Spark.
KC, the Dalesman is suggesting stealing the book from the dracolich, so we could have it more as a race against time, frantically reading the book trying to get through the ritual in time while they're fighting the dracolich. Plus, the thing with the Bard using his Time powers is probably going to get combined with the Spark.
Alright.
Also, I have a plan even if CL is killed.|:)
One more thing: Nobody try to get the book. It was secretly teleported by the Kitten (though nobody knows that). There is no need to steal it.
I just stumbled onto a bit of plot (thanks to Lynora) that I might be able to help the story with. The kobold's book needs to be 'acquired' so that there have a chance of defeating the dracolich. I think the Dalesman would be able to get his hands on it and get it back to the group. Being epic level and having Shadowdancer and Void Incarnate levels is worth something when you're trying to pull off a super-dangerous heist, right? :)
Would this fit in with the storyline, do you think? Add a bit if stealth and smarts into a desperate battle between titans?
I probably have to sign off for the night shortly, so I'll leave it up to you folks. If he does it, he will pump everyone at poolside for info on where it's hidden, then go for it. Acquisition and intel gathering is the order of the day. His goal is for them to not even know he's been there until they discover the book missing. No fighting unless he has no other choice. "I am the night", and all that....
I'll try to check back in if I can tonight, otherwise it might be Sunday before I get another chance. Let me know!
Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"
EDIT: Well crap!! ;D
Guys, I gotta go. Sorry. The battle will begin when I get back.
Also, it should be clear that this attack is a 'skirmish'. And that the kittens might have exaggerated. It'll be a tough battle, but you'll probably win. It's the real Defectives that you gotta worry about.
Also, just so it's clear: This battle does not involve CL. It's pretty much Good Guys vs. defective Defectives.
Do you still want to build the Time thing off of the Spark of Life thing, using that as a starting point, or as an alternative solution? Either way is cool. I just want to have some idea of whether LJ should have had any success at soliciting help at the Solar Temple or not.I think the Spark will work best after I start to reverse Candle Lighter's dracoliching, so I don't have to do it all and neither does the Spark.Just so you know, the 'de-dracoliching' will not work.
Sorry, but that would practically eliminate him as a threat. It would be like diminishing his Sorcerer Level to 2. He's probably going to counterspell it. Or maybe dodge it. Or just resist it.
Sorry. But if he dies, it's gonna be from the Spark. And even then, part of him may endure. Just so that there will be room for the 'into Lynora's mind' thing.
It should at least make him a little weaker....
I am pretty much figuring considering this is rules-absent RPGing that we are going by comic-book conventions. I.e: No one ever really 'dies'. They might get retired for a bit, but someone is sure to tinker with something or call upon something that revives the evil for another round. It's just the way things go.
Thinking metalevel farther along, I would say once the battle is done and good has won the day the minions of Evil will run off and lick their wounds, plotting to bring back their leaders. The Steel Tsar could be reanimated, after all he is really just a big suit of armor with stolen Jack power. Perhaps a quest to assemble all his broken fragments? I would leave KC to dream up Candle Lighter's return, since it is his character, but undead dragons are notoriously hard to kill, being dead already.
There are other baddies to fight out there: The Runelords, the denizens of the 444th Level (although they are rather neutral in this fight it doesn't have to STAY that way), the Defectives.
Anyway, once this is done I personally would enjoy a little less-intensive 'down' time where we just play casual again. My 2CP
I agree with Patrick about the down-time. I'd like to go for at least a week or two before we introduce any more high drama, and probably longer than that before we get back to 'saving the world'. A few minor quests wouldn't hurt, but we need to give ourselves and our characters a chance to rest in between big adventures.
OK, these are the NPCs that are basically mortal:
Fafhrd, The Grey Mouser, Spring Sapling.
Not saying they WILL die, just that I will cry no big tears if they bite it. It will have to be a well-choreographed death scene though.
Of course The Steel Tsar is pretty much marked for doom ...
AAAAAND, I reserve the right to kill off anyone I run if I feel it will make a poignant scene. That's the DM in me.
Well, I need to sign off guys, but I enjoyed tonight's session. Thanks all, I think it went smoothly, and the writing was really top notch. You can be sure that the Steel Tsar will come out for a bigger battle tomorrow, then we throw a big party at Club Calistria!
Tomorrow it is then Patrick. I look forward to it.
Well, I need to sign off guys, but I enjoyed tonight's session. Thanks all, I think it went smoothly, and the writing was really top notch. You can be sure that the Steel Tsar will come out for a bigger battle tomorrow, then we throw a big party at Club Calistria!
Tomorrow night or during the day?
Gonna be a rough one for me tomorrow. I'll be on early and late I'm thinking. Hopefully we can choreograph everything OK
Nite guys!
Heh. I made Spring Sapling just yesterday, mostly because I 'liked the icon pic. Suddenly when I peruse a certain buttery amphibian's site, >>this<< pops up on his Deviant Art favorites board ..
Creepy no?
Oh and a new thread has been discovered! Check it out!
Just so you all know, Meepo does not plan to kill the Tsar. He is aware that nothing he has can possibly destroy it. He is simply attempting to keep it from being fixed. He also doesn't want the armies of CL to be too versatile.