Still nothing on Grappling Hooks?


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Sovereign Court

We are in the middle of a play test and my character is currently down. So I get the job of trying to find the beta rules for grappling hook. The beta rules still refer to Use Rope. Has this been addressed? I found the thread in the alpha rules discussing the change to a ranged attack but I haven't found anything more official. Currently, my barbarian is unconscious at the mercy of a goblin horde. My group is trying to rescue me but they are in the water at the base of an 80 ft cliff and they are trying to climb up. We used a modified touch attack against an AC 5 +2 for every 10 feet. this made the attack difficult enough for we meager 2nd level characters, but not out of reach. We were looking for something more official and all. :)


The larger a hooker is, the easier she is to grapple... or so I've been told.

Our party had a similar problem, we ended up just using a DEX check. The only other thing we could thing of was that maybe it was rolled into the Escape Artist Skill. That would give Rogues a bonus to it as a class skill if they decided to take it and still keeps it DEX-based.

Paizo Employee Director of Games

Using a grappling hook does need to be redefined. For now, I think the following rules are pretty safe for use.

Using a grappling hook against a stationary object requires a ranged attack roll against an AC of 5 (10 - 5 for a 0 Dex). A grappling hook has a range of 10 feet. In addition, a GM might rule that there is nothing to grab onto if the surface cannot be seen, meaning that the check would automatically result in failure.

I plan to come up with something a bit more solid for the final rules, but I think they will probably be close to this.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

Sovereign Court

Thanks for the quick response, Jason! It's really appreciated. And our DM will be hppy to know he was thinking along the same lines. Hope no one called you home, dragged you out of bed and forced you to type us something. :)

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