Feat - Combat Expertise Using Dex


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Very simple.

Power attack runs off of strength, both produce damage.

Combat Expertise runs off of dex, both produce damage.

So I am not saying that we should get rid of the int running off capability, but we should make the option of dex or int.

One a side note.
Also, make it count double for shield use, other than a buckler please.


Also there is the fact that combat exspertise uses a stat, int, that most/all melee classes would not bother getting except for the feats one would get after words, that run off of strength any ways. I am looking at you improved combat maneuver feats.


hmmm..... Its been a few days. How about it? Have this feat run off of int or dex?


I see no problem with a pre req of Int, it is the (which ever is lower) part that really destroys the feat. As you have said, many meleers will not put much into INT because their other stats are very important. but many who will spend enough on INT (myself included) to get the feat are royally boned when they can only gain a +1 from the bonus. I personally say remove the (which ever is lower) part, add in a double bonus from a shield and we are good. That makes this feat worth having again.


Vult Wrathblades wrote:
I see no problem with a pre req of Int, it is the (which ever is lower) part that really destroys the feat. As you have said, many meleers will not put much into INT because their other stats are very important. but many who will spend enough on INT (myself included) to get the feat are royally boned when they can only gain a +1 from the bonus. I personally say remove the (which ever is lower) part, add in a double bonus from a shield and we are good. That makes this feat worth having again.

I agree, but I just don't see that happening. I think Jason might be a bit set in his ideas as for the feats are now. That is why I think making this work off of better of two stats would make it work better.

Dex or Int.


I believe we should just revert to the version of Combat Expertise that was in the 3.5 SRD and uncouple these feats from Ability Scores that most melee characters aren't going to be putting points into anyway.


Sueki Suezo wrote:
I believe we should just revert to the version of Combat Expertise that was in the 3.5 SRD and uncouple these feats from Ability Scores that most melee characters aren't going to be putting points into anyway.

I agree, but if there is a stat that would be linked to combat expertise it should be dex.

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