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Dave:

Spoiler:
Ulli's stats look good.


female Elf Paladin 2

Picked my "major equipment." I hope you are ok with me not listing every last inkwell. If you want it, i can do it, but this stuff is relevant so rarely i usually do not bother unless the GM really really wants it :)


Tessirda wrote:
Picked my "major equipment." I hope you are ok with me not listing every last inkwell. If you want it, i can do it, but this stuff is relevant so rarely i usually do not bother unless the GM really really wants it :)

No problem, you don't have to list every little thing.


Male Human (Varisian) Bard 1
Dastardly Dave wrote:


Looks like Zavos the bard will have to roll the dice for all us non-wagering types.

Hah!!

When Desna's favoured son holds the cards, how can we go wrong!?

Even if we lose all of our gold, there are plenty of kindly ladies to replenish it.


Hey its Erekose13. Working on Uzes going to try to make that monk/sorceror work. It is MAD but the number of touch spells and abilities should make it an interesting character to try and I have lots of ideas on how to put his background together. The traits really helped solidify that for me.


Uzès:

Spoiler:
Stats look fine.


Male Human (Ulfen) Barbarian 1
Zavos Szmyr wrote:

Hah!!

When Desna's favoured son holds the cards, how can we go wrong!?

Even if we lose all of our gold, there are plenty of kindly ladies to replenish it.

Ulli raises his fifth flagon of ale.

"Kindly ladies, eh? Dat's Ulli's favorite kind, yep."

Grand Lodge

Zavos background is up, and copied here. It's short, but done.

Spoiler:

Zavos was adopted by Clan Szmyr when he was an infant, after his birth parents were killed in a giant attack. A beautiful, happy-go-lucky child, he became a camp favourite, indulged in whatever he wanted. As he grew, his good looks and self-confidence made him a favourite performer in the towns the clan visited, especially among the young ladies of the town.

Zavos brothers Miklos and Kaz have gone on to become Big Men in the Sczarni, while his sister is highly in demand as a Riddleport courtesan, but Zavos is ill-suited to commit himself to any cause or vocation. He is still a favoured son and brother of the clan.

DM?

Spoiler:

Are we using the Golarion class features from the Campaign Setting hardcover? (ie should Zavos be getting the Golarion Bard Perform bonus?)


Scribbling Rambler:

Spoiler:
I'm assuming you're referring to the Specialized Training ability. You can take it, but it replaces bardic knowledge.


female Elf Paladin 2

Anything else you need of me, or am i ready to go?

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Oh, and will we use the "Upgraded" paladin posted by Jason?


TerraNova wrote:
Oh, and will we use the "Upgraded" paladin posted by Jason?

We might as well; I'll track that down and take a look at it. We should probably use the upgraded barbarian rules as well then. What does everyone think?

Here's the link for the paladin rules

And the barbarian rules


Tessirda wrote:
Anything else you need of me, or am i ready to go?

Stat-wise you're good to go. I'll study your background a little closer once everybody has theirs up and provide feedback if necessary.


I hadn't seen those new rage rules before, but I just looked them over. They look fine to me. :)

Grand Lodge

Thanks DM! I'll stick with what I've got.


Female Gnome Rogue 1

I'm sorry for the delay, GM. I kept flipflopping on what stats made sense for the character. I think she's pretty weak in areas you usually expect a rogue to be strong, so guys if she looks too weak please let me know.

Spoiler:
Zindit Tamelathi
Female gnome rogue 1
CN Small humanoid
Init +4
Defense
AC 17, touch 15, flat-footed 13 (+2 leather armor, +4 DEX. +1 Size bonus)
hp 9 (1d8+1(CON))
Fort +2 (1 CON, Resilient) Ref 6 (2 base, 4 DEX) Will 0 (0 WIS)
Offense
Spd 20 ft.
melee dagger (1d3-1(STR)/19-20X2)
sneak attack 1d6
Statistics
Str 8 Dex 18 Con 12 Int 13 Wis 10 Cha 12
Base Atk +0; CMB -1 Attack Bonus(from Size) +1
Feats Skill Focus(Disable Device)
Skills
Acrobatics +8 (4 Dex, 1 rank, 3 class bonus)
Bluff +5(1 Cha, 1 rank, 3 class bonus)
Climb +3 (-1 Str, 1 rank, 3 class bonus)
Disable Device +11 (4 Dex, 1 rank, 3 class bonus, 3 skill focus)
Escape Artist +8 (4 Dex, 1 rank, 3 class bonus)
Knowledge(local) +5 (1 Int, 1 rank, 3 class bonus)
Perception +4 (0 Wis, 1 rank, 3 class bonus)
Sense Motive +4 (0 Wis, 1 rank, 3 class bonus)
Stealth +8 (4 Dex, 1 rank, 3 class bonus)

Languages Common, Gnome, Sylvan
SQ low-light vision, keen senses, obsessive, illusion resistant, gnome magic, hatred, defensive training, trapfinding
Gear
dagger
bodysuit
leather armor
backpack
caltrops (2 bags)
thieves' tools
crowbar
candle(3)
flint and steel
chalk (5)
grappling hook
rope(50 ft.)
sewing needle
whetstone
flask
blankets, winter(12)
coinpurse

Money: 5 gp

Traits:
Resilient (+1 Fort save)
Looking for work (+1 Spot)

I was going to take the Weapon Finess feat, but then I remembered that I'm not playing a human for once and won't get the extra feat. I guess someone can teach her how to use a knife properly later, say around third level? :)

I wanted to make sure putting the +1 from Looking For Work in Perception was okay instead of just Spot, or if you would prefer it to apply only to sight-based Perception checks, like the gnome bonuses to smell and touch.


I don't think Zindit's too weak; she's a gnome rogue. And +1 for Perception from the Looking for Work trait is fine. That's how I would convert the trait to Pathfinder Beta.


DM Rimrock wrote:
I don't think Zindit's too weak; she's a gnome rogue. And +1 for Perception from the Looking for Work trait is fine. That's how I would convert the trait to Pathfinder Beta.

I was just hoping no one expected her to do any Diplomancy. Then I remembered we have a bard. ;)

Thanks!


Female Human (Osiriani - Garundi) Cleric 2
Valkyrie Paine wrote:
DM Rimrock wrote:
I don't think Zindit's too weak; she's a gnome rogue. And +1 for Perception from the Looking for Work trait is fine. That's how I would convert the trait to Pathfinder Beta.

I was just hoping no one expected her to do any Diplomancy. Then I remembered we have a bard. ;)

Thanks!

Amunyet is pretty decent in Diplomacy and Sense Motive, also, so I think we got you covered ...


Apologies for the delay; Will have a character sheet up by this evening by the latest.


Zindit:

Spoiler:
Your stats look fine to me (don't forget to add the +1 to Perception from the trait).


Male Human Fighter 8, Ranger 3

There we are, one sheet. I'm not 100% sure gambler is the best of fits for Kelne, but by damn, somebody has to try and win the tournament (while simultaneously maintaining that the odds are stacked in the house's favour and anybody who makes a habit of this is doomed to destitution).

The only question is what poor soul has him along to look out for their interests? My money's on Ulli.


Kelne:

Spoiler:
Your stats check out for me

Kelne wrote:
I'm not 100% sure gambler is the best of fits for Kelne,

I tend to agree.

Kelne wrote:
but by damn, somebody has to try and win the tournament (while simultaneously maintaining that the odds are stacked in the house's favour and anybody who makes a habit of this is doomed to destitution).

Two other characters have Profession (gambling), so you don't have to take it if you don't think it fits.

Now everyone's here:

Valkyrie Paine: Zindit Tamelathi (CN gnome rogue 1) - Looking for Work
French Wolf: Sorda Gelsunkertis of the Schlossteen (NG human transmuter 1) - Researching the Blot
Dastardly Dave: Ulli Dagamrssen (human [Ulfen] barbarian 1) - Looking for Work
Scribbling Rambler: Zavos Szmyr (CG human [Varisian] bard 1) - Optimistic Gambler
Bryan: Amunyet Meretshiri (NG human [Osiriani/Garundi] cleric 1 [Pharasma]) - Researching the Blot
TerraNova: Tessirda (LG elf paladin 1 [Sarenrae]) - Fools for Friends
Erekose13: Uzès Voiron (LG half-orc monk 1) - Scouting For Friends
Chris Banks: Kelne Narikos (LN human fighter 1) - Fools for Friends

One quick observation: we have 2 characters with Fools for Friend, one with Scouting for Friends and only one with Optimistic Gambler. The other four are either Researching the Blot or Looking for Work.

Let me know when you're finished with your backgrounds (some of you already are I think) and I'll try to tie it all together. Remember, you each need a reason to be at the gambling tournament.

Regardless, the mix of characters should make for an interesting game. The fact that most of you are Good is especially interesting; in the other Second Darkness games I've been following the character's alignments are mostly Neutral or Evil.


Kelne wrote:
The only question is what poor soul has him along to look out for their interests? My money's on Ulli.

Well, Ulli's not really going to the tournament as a serious gambler (the big lug always boozes and whores away what little money he makes as it is.) He's attending to try to impress the owner with his brawn and score a better paying job...and maybe a comely serving wench too.

Zavos is the optimistic gambler of the bunch...maybe you and Scribbling Rambler can put something together?


Male Human (Varisian) Bard 1
DM Rimrock wrote:

Remember, you each need a reason to be at the gambling tournament.

Because win or lose, it impresses the women ;)


Female Human (Osiriani - Garundi) Cleric 2
DM Rimrock wrote:

Let me know when you're finished with your backgrounds (some of you already are I think) and I'll try to tie it all together. Remember, you each need a reason to be at the gambling tournament.

Amunyet's reason for being there is pretty straight-forward: she enjoys observing competitions, and even though she herself wouldn't gamble, it would seem to be a plesent diversion after her long trip to Riddleport. Either she's seen some of the notices regarding the competition, or perhaps Sorda mentioned it in passing during a chat.


Dwarven Druid 1

Researching the Blot means Amunyet gets in for free, thanks to Saul Vandercaskin... I'd play with someone else's money.

Sorda will play as an intellectual exercise, plus its only money after all.

Cheers

Grand Lodge

Dastardly Dave wrote:
Kelne wrote:
The only question is what poor soul has him along to look out for their interests? My money's on Ulli.

Well, Ulli's not really going to the tournament as a serious gambler (the big lug always boozes and whores away what little money he makes as it is.) He's attending to try to impress the owner with his brawn and score a better paying job...and maybe a comely serving wench too.

Zavos is the optimistic gambler of the bunch...maybe you and Scribbling Rambler can put something together?

Hmmm...Zavos is unlikely to need to hire a wingman. Maybe one of the researchers needs protection?


This is an interesting thread:

Converting Traits to PRPG

Dark Archive

working on my character's background. with his connection being Hunting for Fiends, I'm thinking something has lead him to the tourney. With a background in gambling (odd for a monk but I'm working it into his cover story back in Nidal) he has joined.


Female Human (Osiriani - Garundi) Cleric 2
DM Rimrock wrote:

This is an interesting thread:

Converting Traits to PRPG

Do you want us to use this, then? Both of my traits are a little different from how I currently have them, but I can update easily enough.


Male Human (Varisian) Bard 1

Kelne:

Spoiler:

I think that the 2 of us would make an odd combination, but if you need a Fool for a Friend, I would certainly qualify there.


Male Human Fighter 8, Ranger 3

Zavos: Sounds good.

Profession: Gambler has been switched out for a rank in perception.


Amunyet wrote:
DM Rimrock wrote:

This is an interesting thread:

Converting Traits to PRPG

Do you want us to use this, then? Both of my traits are a little different from how I currently have them, but I can update easily enough.

We already discussed the Sacred Conduit trait, we can stick with what you have (unless you want to change it). As for the Researching the Blot I'm not sure; I need to wait until I get home from work and look at how the rules for identifying magic items and potions have changed in the Pathfinder Beta.

I know I promised earlier that I would look into what traits need to be converted, but I forgot to do that. Then I found that link and figured it would be a good starting point.


Female Human (Osiriani - Garundi) Cleric 2
DM Rimrock wrote:
Amunyet wrote:
DM Rimrock wrote:

This is an interesting thread:

Converting Traits to PRPG

Do you want us to use this, then? Both of my traits are a little different from how I currently have them, but I can update easily enough.

We already discussed the Sacred Conduit trait, we can stick with what you have (unless you want to change it). As for the Researching the Blot I'm not sure; I need to wait until I get home from work and look at how the rules for identifying magic items and potions have changed in the Pathfinder Beta.

I know I promised earlier that I would look into what traits need to be converted, but I forgot to do that. Then I found that link and figured it would be a good starting point.

No prob; I'll leave Sacred Conduit as we discussed. Let me know on the other when you get a chance (no rush).


Female Gnome Rogue 1
Zavos Szmyr wrote:


Even if we lose all of our gold, there are plenty of kindly ladies to replenish it.

"I know a kindly old lady but she usually just gives me bread but I'll ask for gold too and I can take you to see her maybe I'm asking wrong."

I'm thinking about having Zindit work the run-ons. That's going to need some moderation to not get old quick though.

So we're all strangers to each other except two of us, right?


Male Human (Ulfen) Barbarian 1
Zindit Tamelathi wrote:
So we're all strangers to each other except two of us, right?

Well, Ulli is likely to at least recognize (maybe have a passing acquaintance with) anybody who hangs out in Riddleport's low places (cue Garth Brooks).

Anybody volunteer to fit that bill?


Amunyet:

The Beta doesn't have the Spellcraft check for identifying potions like the 3.5 PHB, and has an Appraise check for identifying magic items in conjunction with detect magic.

However, I see no reason to convert the Researching the Blot trait. I'm fine with leaving it as it is.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?


Zindit wrote:
So we're all strangers to each other except two of us, right?

You mean Zindit and Sorda, right? I think Sorda also has a passing acquaintance with Amunyet. Also, I think Zavos is Zelne's fool for a friend.


Tessirda wrote:
Anything else you need of me, or am i ready to go?

Tessirda:

Spoiler:
Actually, there is one thing. The Calistrian Prostitute trait; I just noticed that. How about +1 to Sense Motive (or Diplomacy - your choice) and it's a class skill? And do you still work out of the House of the Silken Veil, even though you've converted to Sarenrae?

Dark Archive

Alrighty I think Uzès is complete. I've written a full background and the like and he's ready to gamble away what little he has left.


Erekose13 wrote:
Alrighty I think Uzès is complete. I've written a full background and the like and he's ready to gamble away what little he has left.

Cool. Things are coming together.

If you all are ready I can probably start the game thread tomorrow night.

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Since both Sense Motive and Diplomacy are class skills anyway, that would be a very unimpressive trait. I'd go with sense motive if you pushed me, though - mainly since this is "my skill", and I'm unlikely to ever be able to pick up another seriously.

As for where she lives: The gold goblin is more or less her "final test" if she really has changed, and can really close off another chapter behind her. She's made all the preparations, but will follow through once she knows how the "Cheat the Devil" tournament turns out. Call it a somewhat useless trial of herself.

The Exchange

Ulli

Sorda may need protection. I usually play wizards and sorcerers that can take care of themselves in a scrap. This one is much weaker in than respect so Ulli's protection would be good. Would enlarge person help in return?

Cheers


Male Human (Varisian) Bard 1

Ulli

Spoiler:

You would have seen Zavos in some of the dives that you frequent, usually with a woman in tow. He probably has even stolen one from you.
:-)


Male Human (Ulfen) Barbarian 1
DM Rimrock wrote:
If you all are ready I can probably start the game thread tomorrow night.

"Ready to rumble, yep!"


French Wolf wrote:
Sorda may need protection. I usually play wizards and sorcerers that can take care of themselves in a scrap. This one is much weaker in than respect so Ulli's protection would be good. Would enlarge person help in return?

Coo, FW. If Sorda's ever shared a story and bought Ulli a drink or two, that's probably all the motive the big fella needs to tag along to the Golden Goblin. Consider it done, Ulli and Sorda can arrive together.

Still, an enlarged Ulli could probably wreak all kinds of havoc, so we should definitely try that out sometime. :)


Male Human (Ulfen) Barbarian 1

Zavos

Spoiler:
"Plenty uf ladies to go 'round, Zavos, eh?" the big northman exclaims with a big, gaptoothed grin. "See you at the tournament, yep."

Dark Archive

male human
DM Rimrock wrote:

Amunyet:

The Beta doesn't have the Spellcraft check for identifying potions like the 3.5 PHB, and has an Appraise check for identifying magic items in conjunction with detect magic.

However, I see no reason to convert the Researching the Blot trait. I'm fine with leaving it as it is.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

I'm OK with leaving it as-is if Sorda is (it actually helps me more like this, as I have a rank in Spellcraft, but not Appraise).

The Exchange

Ulli - Maybe Sorda and Ulli met up at the Temple Tavern initially. The wizard will definitely come across as up for adventure, if a little bit like a brainiac.

Bryan - I am fine with Researching the Blot the way it is, the first few paragraphs fitted Sorda. I hadn't paid much attention to the trait bonus, that was just a silver lining.

Cheers

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