In your own games you call the drow cheese elves if you'd like...
Mmmmm. Banana Drow Cheese-Steak
It is indeed rhymed with cow there as it is written phonetically as "drow" rather than "dro" or "droe"
So we've been pronouncing "crow" wrong all this time? :)
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Wikipedia says:
Webster's Unabridged Dictionary (1970) states: "Drow, n., [scot.]." The word is a variant of the Scots term "trow", which itself derives from the Scandinavian word "troll". The original Scottish Gaelic word is pronounced "dtrow" with a soft "dt" sound, and the original pronunciation sounds similar to "troll." The word is also found in Cornish and Welsh, with slight pronunciation differences. The race itself seems based on another dark elf, specifically the Dökkálfar of Norse mythology.So I guess "dro" is more correct in terms of real-world etymology, but I've always pronounced it "drou".
Hmm, I was under the impression thar "drow" was derived from the Scandinavian word "draugr." Here's an interesting website with similar ideas on the matter.
However, I gave the correct answer to the question in my above post, because I got sweet ass brains, man.Ass Brains? Sounds like a new monster...
I was hoping someone would run with the ass brains. Thank you for running with the ass brains. ;)
I like cheese.
Cheese is good.
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I was hoping someone would run with the ass brains. Thank you for running with the ass brains. ;)However, I gave the correct answer to the question in my above post, because I got sweet ass brains, man.Ass Brains? Sounds like a new monster...
You just wanted to say ass brains a few more times, didn't you?
You just wanted to say ass brains a few more times, didn't you?I was hoping someone would run with the ass brains. Thank you for running with the ass brains. ;)However, I gave the correct answer to the question in my above post, because I got sweet ass brains, man.Ass Brains? Sounds like a new monster...
Oh, you know me only too well. <:)
Just once more? Ass brains. Ahhhhhhhhh!
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You just wanted to say ass brains a few more times, didn't you?I was hoping someone would run with the ass brains. Thank you for running with the ass brains. ;)However, I gave the correct answer to the question in my above post, because I got sweet ass brains, man.Ass Brains? Sounds like a new monster...Oh, you know me only too well. <:)
Just once more? Ass brains. Ahhhhhhhhh!
It does roll off the fingers quite well. Ass brains. Yep, good key placement there.
To conform to some semblance of being on topic, I've always pronounced it drow and always will.
To conform to some semblance of being on topic, I've always pronounced it drow and always will.
I always just said WORD backwards.
WORD!
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I believe it's Pathfinder phonetic spelling is given in the back of the Campaign Setting book.
It is indeed rhymed with cow there as it is written phonetically as "drow" rather than "dro" or "droe"
Edit: James has a faster trigger finger on the boards.
Regardless of analyzing word roots, wouldn't Greg Vaughan and James Jacobs be our go-to people for pronunciation of words in the Pathfinder universe? I mean, Drow is a made-up-term anyway, and since they exist in their world, their pronunciation would be correct.
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Regardless of analyzing word roots, wouldn't Greg Vaughan and James Jacobs be our go-to people for pronunciation of words in the Pathfinder universe? I mean, Drow is a made-up-term anyway, and since they exist in their world, their pronunciation would be correct.I believe it's Pathfinder phonetic spelling is given in the back of the Campaign Setting book.
It is indeed rhymed with cow there as it is written phonetically as "drow" rather than "dro" or "droe"
Edit: James has a faster trigger finger on the boards.
Amen brother!
...well, I could just as easily flip that and ask why the words cow, how, now, etc are the way they are. or even better, why are there words like sow, row and bow that change meanings if they're pronounced differantly? it's just the way the languages evolved is all. and way back when, someone decided that drow rhymies with cow. that's all. it could ahve easily gone the other way. in fact it had a 50% chance of going the other way. but the world works in mysterious ways..The big difference is the construction of those words.
cow
how
now
are missing a key infrastructure--the preceding 'r'--that should, if present, naturally result in a linguistic syllogism.Throw and grow, for example, have a preceding letter or letter set followed by letter 'r' and concluded with letters 'ow.' They are always pronounced with an /O/ sound. Therefore, 'drow' must be pronounced /drO/...
Brow
GrowlAlways? :P
Ignatz
((Dang it some one did Brow! Curses!))
And people wonder how the Edition Wars started.
Kirk shot Han first 'cause he was eyein' his Pepsi!
The Kirk never drinks Pepsi!!!
I should like to continue this debate with you, however, your obvious lack of intelligence makes me question your humanity. I knew Kirk when he as just a pup in an ensign’s uniform. If you were not such a Coca Cola™ fanboi you would recognize my apparent superiority.
Did I miss any of the usual Internet Argument® tactics?
"Pepsi--The Choice of the Next Generation," Jean-Luc replied.
I switch back and forth between pronounciations at random.
For some reason, that really ticks most players off.
edit-Now I can't stop thinking about it and I'm currently furious!
Then my evil plan has succeeded! The drow, being CE themselves, do the same thing, I'm quite certain.
Rhymes with How Now Brown Cow.
So for someone with a thick Scottish brogue, it would be pronounced "drew".
Considering how most seem to have come to an agreement as to how "Drow" is now called, I had a few other pronunciation questions for you crazy people:
Since it was mentioned, how do you pronounce "Drizzt?"
Is it Driz-zit
or Dr-ist ? (I've seen this variation before somewhere)
Since I'm running a Savage Tide game, how do you pronounce "Demogorgon?"
Is it demo (like a game demo)-gorgon
or deemo (like how you start to say demon)-gorgon?
I suppose the answer to the above would also settle our player dispute as to how we said "Demodand" from Shackled City.
Finally, how in all the hells and heavens does one pronounce "Otyugh??"
I usually say ott-tug.
My players like to say ah-too-yah.
And in Baldur's Gate 2, one of the characters pronounces it "ah-pony."
Like to say "a pony." o.O
This subject has been hotly debated for a long time with us.
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some pronunciation gray areas
Since it was mentioned, how do you pronounce "Drizzt?"
Driz'st
Since I'm running a Savage Tide game, how do you pronounce "Demogorgon?"
Dehmogorgon (One of the original occurences was "Daemogorgon" though.
Finally, how in all the hells and heavens does one pronounce "Otyugh??"
Ot-ee-oog
Since it was mentioned, how do you pronounce "Drizzt?"
Since I'm running a Savage Tide game, how do you pronounce "Demogorgon?"
Finally, how in all the hells and heavens does one pronounce "Otyugh??"
DRIZ-zit, sorta, though not a full "zit" sound there. Think of how you start "stereo", but give the s voice so it's a z sound. >_> <_<
DEH-mo-gor-gon, like game demo, as you7 say, with gorgon behind it.
OH-tyoog. Not a full "tee" sound, just stick a t sound in front of "you" basically. And the g sound at the end is downplayed, to me, I guess...breathier, not as hard, if that makes sense.
I'm curious, how do you guys say aasimar and tiefling?
ay-AHZ-ih-mahr
TEEF-ling
AH-sih-mahr
TEE-fling. *suddenly pictures a tiefling rogue sneak attacking with soggy tea bags >_> <_<*
TEE-fling. *suddenly pictures a tiefling rogue sneak attacking with soggy tea bags
Would he fling them at his foes? :)
Would he fling them at his foes? :)
Of course! It's a ranged sap! ^_-
I was never more happy than when the ecology article in 1e explained how to pronounce "ixitxachitl" (along the lines of "ig-zits-a-chitl," IIRC).
TEE-fling. *suddenly pictures a tiefling rogue sneak attacking with soggy tea bagsWould he fling them at his foes? :)
I know I certainly wouldn't want to be tea bagged.
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Just to jump in here ...
I and my entire group of gaming friends have always pronounced it Dro. In fact, saying it the other way sounds horrible to my ears, although I think really whichever way you first hear it is the way you probably prefer it. I actually never heard ANYONE say it like 'now' or 'cow' until years later.
By the way, that early Dragon magazine pronunciation guide was by Frank Mentzer (I got to meet him years ago at a D&D camp). It is reprinted in Paizo's Dragon Compendium and the pronunciation for Drow says it can be either way. I actually asked him about it (this was back in the glorious AD&D days of old ... I was about 11) and he told us that he tended to prefer DRO. He seemed to imply that even whithin TSR both pronunciations were used ... hence stating in his guide that either way was acceptable.
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just curios since when has this been an issue? I have always heard it pronounced like cow. Did this change or was school just more troublesome for the younger crowd?
Ha ha. Well, like I said above, it was never an issue for any of my gaming friends ... we all KNEW it was pronounced DRO :) All this odd 'sounds like cow' foolishness seems to have started later ...
I'm of course joking ... although we really did always say DRO ...
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Since it was mentioned, how do you pronounce "Drizzt?"
Drizt. I ignore the second z and keep it to one syllable.
Since I'm running a Savage Tide game, how do you pronounce "Demogorgon?"
I used to pronounce it Dee-mogorgon in my head, but that sounded silly out loud, so now it's Deh-mogorgon.
I suppose the answer to the above would also settle our player dispute as to how we said "Demodand" from Shackled City.
That one remains Deemo-dand. I'm not terribly consistent. :)
Finally, how in all the hells and heavens does one pronounce "Otyugh??"
O-tee-ugh.
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Since it was mentioned, how do you pronounce "Drizzt?"
I dunno about anyone else, but I pronounce it "Done To Death".
There's only so many times that the world can be in crisis, brought to the brink of destruction, only to be saved by someone who is not completely trusted, even though he's willingly put himself into danger to save the day numerous times before, each time being more dangerous than the last.
Move on, already, find a new hero to focus on.
Since it was mentioned, how do you pronounce "Drizzt?"I dunno about anyone else, but I pronounce it "Done To Death".
There's only so many times that the world can be in crisis, brought to the brink of destruction, only to be saved by someone who is not completely trusted, even though he's willingly put himself into danger to save the day numerous times before, each time being more dangerous than the last.
Move on, already, find a new hero to focus on.
I take it you haven't actually read most of those books?
Drizzt saves the day (Icewind Dale to be specific) in the first book. After that, everything else is personal stuff, or even better, Drizzt is simply around when other characters are dealing with their own things. Most of those books, actually, deal with Drizzt's personal problems (Artemis Entreri, redeeming Wulfgar, coming to grips with his feeling over Catti-brie, etc). Drizzt has never really saved the world.
I will fully admit, however, that he is damn moody and sulky. ;)
Cheer up, emo Drow.
I also totally support new heroes for focus, though. One cannot live on Drizzt alone.
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I have no idea what I just wrote.
Cheer up, emo Drow.
Healthcliff has already been done and a lot better 160 some years ago.
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I was under the impression that the original Norse "ðrow" was pronounced somewhat similarly to the English "true" or "trowel".
My pronunciations:
Drow - DROU (rhymes with cow)
Oytugh - OT-youh
Aasimar - AH-sim-ar
Tiefling - TY-fling (rhymes with pie fling)
Baatezu - BAH-te-zoo
Tanar'ri - ta-NAR-ree
Lich - LITCH
Asmodeus - AZ-mo-DAY-us
Paizo - PAY-zo (the original Greek pronunciation)
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Lich - LITCH
Speaking as a Lich, I prefer the above pronunciation to the overdone "lik" I have heard by a few others in the past.
I am glad to see that Lich is being pronounced properly more often these days, as those that mispronounced "Lich" in the past have slowly disappeared...
Strange how certain dialects of a language can just die out...
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Lich - LITCHSpeaking as a Lich, I prefer the above pronunciation to the overdone "lik" I have heard by a few others in the past.
I am glad to see that Lich is being pronounced properly more often these days, as those that mispronounced "Lich" in the past have slowly disappeared...
Considering the etymology of the word, isn't "lik" closer to the proper pronunciation?
"That's a sweet ass-car!"
That's like cussing in German. Sometimes when I forget where I parked I'll bark something that translates roughly to "Where in the devil is my sh!+car?"
That might explain why tiefling is <TEE-FLING> to me.
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"That's a sweet ass-car!"That's like cussing in German. Sometimes when I forget where I parked I'll bark something that translates roughly to "Where in the devil is my sh!+car?"
That might explain why tiefling is <TEE-FLING> to me.
That sounds like my dad. Even in English he strings together a flurry of cuss-words that have no business being attached to each-other.
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Since it was mentioned, how do you pronounce "Drizzt?"I dunno about anyone else, but I pronounce it "Done To Death".
There's only so many times that the world can be in crisis, brought to the brink of destruction, only to be saved by someone who is not completely trusted, even though he's willingly put himself into danger to save the day numerous times before, each time being more dangerous than the last.
Move on, already, find a new hero to focus on.
I take it you haven't actually read most of those books?
Drizzt saves the day (Icewind Dale to be specific) in the first book. After that, everything else is personal stuff, or even better, Drizzt is simply around when other characters are dealing with their own things. Most of those books, actually, deal with Drizzt's personal problems (Artemis Entreri, redeeming Wulfgar, coming to grips with his feeling over Catti-brie, etc). Drizzt has never really saved the world.
I will fully admit, however, that he is damn moody and sulky. ;)
Cheer up, emo Drow.
I also totally support new heroes for focus, though. One cannot live on Drizzt alone.
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I have no idea what I just wrote.
I had a mixed discussion of Drizzt and Stargate: SG-1 with a friend of mine who is a big fan of Drizzt and discussed similarities(storywise, obviously not setting-wise :P ) between the two and so forth. And we'd concluded that while each was great and we'd love to see more, at some point, the whole thing becomes clichéd to the point that even as a fan, you would no longer like it.
On a side note, any time I say Drow(rhymes with "throw"), he'll correct me, and if continue to say it the way I do, he'll get argumentative, in a friendly way, but still.
