| neceros |
Hey folks,
Having actually just read the Pathfinder RPG rules for the first time recently I'm happy to present my latest in Character Sheets:
http://www.neceros.com/forum/index.php?automodule=downloads&showcat=6
Remind you the rules and sheet are still in alpha/beta stages, so please be kind and report any errors or suggestions. This will ensure we stay on top of the project as best as possible. :)
Please let me know what you think!
| darth_borehd |
Overall it is very good and I will be using it. Just a few comments and suggestions for further improvement:
I like the spaces for item body slots (a couple of blank lines for extra slots would be nice). And the portrait box is nice. (I would prefer a generic paperdoll to indicate body slots, but that's no big deal)
The spells sheet is not all that useful after the first few levels. Most of my charaters have so many spells by level 10 that I'm tracking them on a separate sheet. (I use Ema's dynamic sheets http://www.emass-web.com/index.php).
The mini sheet for Familiar and bonded item is a good idea (you should probably include "& animal companion & mount" to the title to be totally accurate.)
Equipment and magic items separated is good.
Bags and containers volume info is nice, but I don't think its essential (it can go if space is needed elsewhere). Maybe something showing what items are in what containers would be better. (ie Was the magic missile wand in my backpack or belt pouch?)
The skills could use a few blank lines for extra knowledge, craft, and perform skills. Also, a few extra misc columns would be helpful for all those bonuses characters tend to accumulate. Maybe have one for "racial" and one for "feats" and one for "misc". Or at least make the misc bigger to accommodate more bonuses (i.e. 2+3+4, etc) I would also like perception broken down into smell, hear, see, taste, feel, but that's no biggie.
A notes field for weapons would be handy for those special modifiers some weapons have against certain foes or situations. An ammo box for ranged attacks that use them would be good.
Breaking AC with different calculation boxes is good.
My personal preference is for character sheets to have more colour or pizazz graphics. (See Ema's). This is just a personal aesthetic though.
| neceros |
Thanks for the reply!
Ema is good at making sheets, but in contrast to your preference I don't much like frizzle and frivolous things; plus my printer is black and white laser, which is why I initially did Black ink only sheets. However, I'll see what I can whip up.
What would you propose a good replacement for the spell sheet is? Is there simply not enough room for spells no matter how it's adjusted, since every character is different?
I'll look at the skills section again. My friend already suggested more misc lines. Seems logical.
Originally I had a marker system for marking equipment and bags, but had taken it out to conserve space. I'll readjust. :)
Check back soon!
theinuit
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The only way to make the spell list more useful would be to increase its size, perhaps by adding a 4th page. If you moved everything on the 3rd page besides the spell list to the top of the page, and then used the rest of the third page and a 4th page for a spell list, there would probably be enough room. If there were three columns for each spell level, you would need about two rows for every level except for 0 and 9th, for which you would only need one.
| neceros |
Couple things I noticed:
You seem to have forgotten knowledges. Thats kind of important.
Also, the sheet seems kind of crowded and it seems like it may be just a bit much.
Otherwise, very good sheet.
Not forgotten, just moved. Blank lines at the bottom are there if you want knowledges. I hate having useless Knowledge entries in the middle of the skill block that take up room when 1/3 of the party may use them, especially when there are so many knowledges.
The sheet is crowded, but controlled. Lots of stuff goes into 3.5 and Pathfinder. Check other sheets and they too will be crowded, unless you have a million pages. One should not have more than 3 sheets for a character. The lesser the better.
Thanks!
| darth_borehd |
Thanks for the reply!
Ema is good at making sheets, but in contrast to your preference I don't much like frizzle and frivolous things; plus my printer is black and white laser, which is why I initially did Black ink only sheets. However, I'll see what I can whip up.
Something other than boring boxes. Make some areas round, diamond, hexagons, etc. and maybe a nice background graphic or fonts (but please put readability first).
What would you propose a good replacement for the spell sheet is? Is there simply not enough room for spells no matter how it's adjusted, since every character is different?
I just don't see a way its useful for high level casters. When your wizard knows dozens of spells per level, there's no where to fit them all in.
Maybe expand the familiar mini-sheet to include more mini sheets for commonly summoned monsters, mounts henchmen, etc. Maybe an area for owned land, houses, castles, ships, etc. (if room)| neceros |
Something other than boring boxes. Make some areas round, diamond, hexagons, etc. and maybe a nice background graphic or fonts (but please put readability first).
Readability is always first.
My sheets are first efficient and functional, with presentation working around those things. If I can't present it in a method which is pleasing I tend not to present it at all; that said round boxes, hexagons and whatnot usually take up substantially more room than otherwise.
I work in 1/32nds of inches, which doesn't leave much room to play with. As you can see, I stuff a lot into as much paper real estate as possible. I try to maintain order and flow as much as possible. For some reason this PF sheet was a tad bit more difficult to flow with than my other sheets, and I'm not sure why. I'm still tinkering with it, but I'm not there yet.
I'm sure I'll have it once I see the BETA rules more complete.
Thanks for replying!