| Joey Virtue |
This was in my scry update today
Reports: Lone Wolf Development is pleased to announce that Hero Lab will support Paizo Publishing's upcoming Pathfinder RPG. The Pathfinder RPG, built upon the success of Paizo's acclaimed Pathfinder Adventure Path series, covers new changes and additions to the d20 System rules.
Hero Lab will fully support Paizo's refinements to the d20 system, including a host of new feats and spells, updated options for all core classes, and hundreds of new items, both magical and mundane. Hero Lab support
for the Pathfinder RPG will become available shortly after the release of the planned Beta edition, due out at GenCon Indy this August.
Updates to Hero Lab's Pathfinder RPG support will be released as necessary throughout the playtest period. Following publication of the finalized Pathfinder RPG, final Hero Lab data files will be made available.
Hero Lab will also continue to support the Adventure Path series content via ongoing updates
Guennarr
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Another one bites the dust dum dum du du dum dum Another one bites the dust, and another one down and another one down, another one bites the dust, hey W.O.T.C. another one bites the dust.
This is awesome news, its good to see 3pp look to pathfinder in the way they used to look to D&D
Or they just see it pragmatically:
Alternative 1: Use an existing application already supporting 3e and do minor adjustments to bring it up to date with the PRPG rules.Alternative 2: Develop a new application from scratch because the old one doesn't support the 4e rules logic any more. Then risk that you don't comply to the new licensing model and all your development effort was for naught.
Which alternative to choose? :p
Robert Hawkshaw
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lastknightleft wrote:Another one bites the dust dum dum du du dum dum Another one bites the dust, and another one down and another one down, another one bites the dust, hey W.O.T.C. another one bites the dust.
This is awesome news, its good to see 3pp look to pathfinder in the way they used to look to D&D
Or they just see it pragmatically:
Alternative 1: Use an existing application already supporting 3e and do minor adjustments to bring it up to date with the PRPG rules.Alternative 2: Develop a new application from scratch because the old one doesn't support the 4e rules logic any more. Then risk that you don't comply to the new licensing model and all your development effort was for naught.
Which alternative to choose? :p
Well, there is no alternative 2, doesn't the gsl specifically forbid products like hero labs that could compete with the DDI stuff?
DeadDMWalking
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From Ken Carpenter regarding whether to buy now, buy after the release, or whether to buy it now and then buy a Pathfinder expansion:
We're not 100% sure how the Pathfinder RPG will be implemented at this point. We're leaning toward just adding it as a configuration option for the d20 data files, which would mean you could buy Hero Lab now (mind you, Hero Lab already includes content from many of the Pathfinder Adventure paths as optional configuration files), and enjoy the software immediately. Pathfinder RPG will be added in the not too distant future, and will either be a free configuration file (we expect), or an inexpensive add-on file (if the development time goes over expectations).Thank you for your question - let me know if you have more.
| Darrin Drader Contributor |
Well, there is no alternative 2, doesn't the gsl specifically forbid products like hero labs that could compete with the DDI stuff?
Yes, but it might still be possible under regular copyright law. It would be similar to how people are doing 4E compatible products like Kingdoms of Kalamar for 4E without using the GSL. Since copyright law protects specific text, but does not protect mechanics, I think you might be able to get away with doing an electronic character generator without special licensing.
| nblade |
Robert Hawkshaw wrote:Yes, but it might still be possible under regular copyright law. It would be similar to how people are doing 4E compatible products like Kingdoms of Kalamar for 4E without using the GSL. Since copyright law protects specific text, but does not protect mechanics, I think you might be able to get away with doing an electronic character generator without special licensing.
Well, there is no alternative 2, doesn't the gsl specifically forbid products like hero labs that could compete with the DDI stuff?
That may be true, but remember this. Just because something is allow under the law doesn't mean you will not be sued for it anyway. Even if you win, you can effectively lose because of your legal fees.
| Darrin Drader Contributor |
That may be true, but remember this. Just because something is allow under the law doesn't mean you will not be sued for it anyway. Even if you win, you can effectively lose because of your legal fees.
Unless the courts deem the suit frivolous, in which case the party filing the suit is responsible for all fees.
Tarlane
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DM Jeff,
Herolab doesn't randomly generate NPCs, but with their 3.5 stuff it allows for generating of NPCs(even complicated ones of different types or templates) very quickly. Choose type and level and it will give you a little list of flagged alerts of what still needs to be added to it to balance it out and you can just quickly point and click your way down the list.
After spending a little time with the interface I can normally create a basic NPC in about 3 minutes or so now and can make a complicated and detailed one in probably less then 10.
It really is a great program and I strongly recommend it.
-Tarlane
Paris Crenshaw
Contributor
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Having been stung by a certain "unmentionable" character generation program, I'm hesitant to buy into others. However, the feedback on this program seems pretty good.
One question, though...How helpful would this software be when converting characters/monsters from 3.5e products to Pathfinder rules? Sounds like it could be really helpful, but I'd like to hear users' opinions.
Tarlane
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I got stung by the etools nonsense too, but herolabs just uses open content stuff rather then licensed products so I can't see how they could suffer that kind of fate again.
If you have some non-ogl stuff that you want to use in the program its a pretty quick process to add additional feats and stuff into it, as well as adding house rules(they have a number of house rules set that you can turn on and off(like keen and imp crit stacking, no ammo counting, ect) and you can update your own.
-Tarlane
DM Jeff
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DM Jeff, Herolab doesn't randomly generate NPCs, but with their 3.5 stuff it allows for generating of NPCs(even complicated ones of different types or templates) very quickly. It really is a great program and I strongly recommend it.
Thanks Tarlane, I will have to check this out further then, good to know!
-DM Jeff