Saw it last night we were one of the first groups to see it in North America because are time zone is ahead of everyone elses. It was honestly one of the best movies I have ever seen. The Joker was the best villain ever and the movie was a nonstop thrillride. Go and see this one.
Same here, amazing, unbelievable! As much as I loved Ironman The Dark Knight blew it out the water.
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Heath's Joker is hands down the most sublime thing I've ever seen put on film. It was not in any way an impersonation, which is what almost every superhero (or villain) performance is. He made the Joker a real person.
And while his Joker was appropriate a disturbed and broken person, every time he spoke, he made it very easy to understand why he was the way he was, even as he lied with every breath when he would explain how he got that way.
Heath easily conveyed that everything holding you back, annoying you, depressing you, and defeating you was fear of things that exist only in your head, and that all you need to do to liberate yourself is to just.... let it go.
Give up. Surrender. Let those things you fear happen. The worst that can happen is that you suffer terribly and die....
Why so serious?
Just blew everything out of the water... Best movie ever!!!
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I don't think I could of put it better Sean. Heath is and will always be the only true Joker. May he Rest In Peace, we will miss you Heath. As for the rest of the cast simply superb, not a bad performance from a single person. I think Eckhert was wonderful as Harvey, Maggie was a much more better Racheal and Bale is the only Batman for me and this movie reaffirmed that. :) This movie raised the bar and left it somewhere in the stratosphere. It left my wife and me wondering how they will top it, if they can and who will be added to Batman's rogue gallery in the next movie? Only time will tell.
It's only funny until someone looses an eye. Yet Heath did it with a simple pencil. I'll never forget the disappearing pencil trick. Had me rolling out of my seat in the theater. I knew Heath was going to give the best and last performance of his career.
And I was right.
Great movie.
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I enjoyed the film. Harvey Dent got much more screen time than I expected, especially at the end of the film. A few twists here and there, but also some foreseeable events.
I found the "two boats" scenario a bit contrived - it is the classic "two prisoners, one fate" morality puzzle. It was still effective though.
Overall, the movie suffered from some pacing problems - no huge climax, but a great deal of teases.
Ledger was good as the Joker, not great, but good. Cesar Romero is the Joker for me.
Haven't seen the movie yet. Hopefully will this weekend. Though with the previews, this portrayal seems more like the comics Joker than anything we've seen in movies or TV so far. I've always seen him as a much more dangerous than people were willing to show on screen.
My wife (Lynora) saw it last night and said it is the best movie she has seen in years. I'm seeing it in a couple of hours and I'm really looking forward to it, despite the massive crowds at the theaters this weekend.
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Haven't seen the movie yet. Hopefully will this weekend. Though with the previews, this portrayal seems more like the comics Joker than anything we've seen in movies or TV so far. I've always seen him as a much more dangerous than people were willing to show on screen.
Unfortunately, as brutal as Joker is, they often cut away or play with angles when he does something ultra-violent.
I may be mistaken, but I think David Cronenberg has often talked about how it is more psychologically damaging to gloss over violence (or show violence as cool or fun) than it is to just portray violence as it happens (for a very good example of this, see Eastern Promises).
Cutting away from the violence takes away some of Jokers power, and makes him more "likeable" - which is a little dishonest.
I thought that cutting the scene away added to his power. The cut away scene made it come across as more final, see the power I wield. I know you could say the same thing for not showing it as well though. It is just the way it struck me when I saw it. Also the music hit an impact at the moment of the cutaway which I found a lot more dramatic, also the scenes kinda went dark real fast, like someone's final moments.
This was one powerful movie. My disappointments were that they changed the origins of both the Joker and Two Face, though what they did was good, very good, actually told a better story than the original.
Yeah, it was really good.
I liked how the Joker lied a different lie everytime he talked about his scars.
I get the feeling Halloween this year is going to have a ton of Jokers.
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Yeah, it was really good.
I liked how the Joker lied a different lie everytime he talked about his scars.
I get the feeling Halloween this year is going to have a ton of Jokers.
I am dreading kids running around saying "Why so serious?" all the time, like it was a good thing. Exactly why I advocate for showing the violence. You know someone is disturbed when they admire someone as gruesome as the Joker.
I think many immature people might miss the point of the movie, especially the boat scene, and just be seduced by the Joker's personality and fallacious arguments about "rules" and "society".
I suspect the Joker is the new standard for chaotic evil for our group. Heath acted that part in an amazing and deep manner.
As far as the rest of the movie, I really liked it, but not as strongly as my wife did. I thought it was very good and I really liked that it didn't 'pull punches' or 'cheer up' the way so many American movies do. I did feel the pacing could have been a little quicker.
And I was disappointed and surprised that
Overall definitely worth the time and move and one of the better movies I have seen recently, but not in the top 2-3 of the last few years as many seem to feel. Then again, I'm a snob in general. :)
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Awesome and then some.
I expect everyone playing a supporting role this year is cursing their luck, as Heath Ledger's performance is absolutely incredible.
I liked everything about this. The characters, the pacing, the visualizations, the themes, all of it.
Now to start waiting for the next installment.
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The wife and I saw it yesterday morning. I think that it was the best movie this summer, and one of the all-time greatest "comic book" movies. Heath Ledger's performance was fantastic, but I think the script deserves a small piece of that credit. I'm not sure how they could top this.
Cross-promote with Brendan Fraser and the villain is King Tut?
Really, I think the only villains that Nolan would want or could handle in his style would be Catwoman or Riddler.
My vote is for Riddler - you could do a pretty disturbing "follow the clues" mystery, like Se7en.
Anarky, Bane, Black Mask, Riddler, and the Reaper* all have potential to be good villains in the vein of the series, and there are a few others that are kind of borderline, depending on how they were written.
Riddler would be great to see completely "straight," as someone just obsessed with pulling off grandiose crimes while leaving clues to prove how intelligent he is, with no hint of the old TV series "we don't know why he's different from Joker" issues.
Heck, the "Marilyn Manson" look they gave Riddler in the new Batman cartoon would be a fun take for this version.
*I would completely understand the strangely incongruous inclusion of Rachel Dawes in every Nolan Batman movie thus far if Rachel went around the bend and took on a Reaper/Phatasm kind of role.
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Anarky, Bane, Black Mask, Riddler, and the Reaper* all have potential to be good villains in the vein of the series, and there are a few others that are kind of borderline, depending on how they were written.
Ooo! I didn't think of Bane, he would be pretty workable - a borderline criminal who gets driven psychotic by super-abuse of steroids and is nigh-indestructible. A good change from the less-combat oriented foils for the Batman reboot.
Riddler would be great to see completely "straight," as someone just obsessed with pulling off grandiose crimes while leaving clues to prove how intelligent he is, with no hint of the old TV series "we don't know why he's different from Joker" issues.
I love in the Batman Movie when they are in the same room most of the time, and you really can't tell them apart - they are equally insane in their methods and sense of humour.
Heck, the "Marilyn Manson" look they gave Riddler in the new Batman cartoon would be a fun take for this version.
Nah, too much goth, not enough Gothic.
*I would completely understand the strangely incongruous inclusion of Rachel Dawes in every Nolan Batman movie thus far if Rachel went around the bend and took on a Reaper/Phatasm kind of role.
No comment. :)
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I loved that the movie keeps going, and keeps building in intensity.
I wish our evil campaign were still going - we had a character much like the Joker, and it would have been fun to see the player challenged to be darker and more violent. We pretty much left the violence and terrorism up to me.
I heard recently that Nolan might be done with Batman after this movie, that he felt like he'd really accomplished something with these two and it was a good time to say good bye. That same person said he'd read that if Nolan stayed for another movie, it would be to give us his the on the Riddler.
Which I think should be played by Jim Carrey. Same actor, different Riddler.
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I would say no to Bane as a future villain simply because the context wouldn't be there. Bane's origins were intricately tied to the original "Venom" storyline done in Legends of the Dark Knight. Without that story, Bane loses something.
Riddler has, in my opinion, always been a second tier character, unworhty of main villain status. He's just a piss-poor versionof a less psychotic Joker.
Catwoman might be interesting, but she's more of an anti-hero than an outright villain.
Penguin could be a possibility, as long as they didn't do him as some half-bird boy.
All in all, it'll be a difficult decision.
Riddler has, in my opinion, always been a second tier character, unworhty of main villain status. He's just a piss-poor versionof a less psychotic Joker.
Catwoman might be interesting, but she's more of an anti-hero than an outright villain.
Penguin could be a possibility, as long as they didn't do him as some half-bird boy.
All in all, it'll be a difficult decision.
Have the Riddler be anonymous, leaving gruesome clues all along (as mentioned above, like in Seven)... And we only find out that it's someone we didn't expect at the end, like a young woman, an old man, or a quadraplegic genius...
Or maybe a combination of villains... Catwoman, Penguin and the Riddler, to give it the old 1966 Batman movie feel. We could introduce Robin or Batgirl here.
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"How about a magic trick?"
All I gotta say ... tells you everything you need to know about the character in the first 2 minutes of his screentime.
We could introduce Robin or Batgirl here.
Please no, no Robin or Batgirl !
The Batman HAS to be alone.
And I was disappointed and surprised that ** spoiler omitted **
Im thinking Gordon had him committed to Arkam and is keeping it quiet while everyone thinks he's dead.
I wouldnt be surprised to see his escape in Batman 3.
Anyone agree?
** spoiler omitted **And I was disappointed and surprised that ** spoiler omitted **
Sounds good. I have a friend at work who is all about the Mad Hatter, but I think a Carrollian villain would better be handled by Guillermo del Toro.
I think the Catwoman could make an appearance, especially since
I also want to see some Matches Malone action.
What, no calls for Killer Croc?
What I thought would have been a cool ending is if they showed Batman on top of a building looking down on Gotham and suddenly he spins about and ...
DC's answer to the Averages!
I think Killer Croc could be a cool before-the-credits encounter, kind of like
Havent seen the flick yet, going this week....but if we are listing new 'unused' villains.
MY vote is Mr Zsasz!
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Loved this movie. And I'm definitely in the
Here's hoping that if they do bring Catwoman into the mix it'll pull more from Brubaker and Cooke's version than Balent...
Then again there's always Ra's and Talia...
MY vote is Mr Zsasz!
Already used! ;)
We could introduce Robin or Batgirl here.Please no, no Robin or Batgirl !
The Batman HAS to be alone.
Sorry, I need my robin OR batgirl. One or the other, but not both. If you don't drink the robin kool-aid, do a search on the very little known "Grayson" movie. Robin kicks some serious ass.
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Sorry, I need my robin OR batgirl. One or the other, but not both. If you don't drink the robin kool-aid, do a search on the very little known "Grayson" movie. Robin kicks some serious ass.We could introduce Robin or Batgirl here.Please no, no Robin or Batgirl !
The Batman HAS to be alone.
Grayson f'n ruled!!!!!
I think Dent lived... a 2 or 3 story fall won't kill you outright (just check out WWE wrasslin when they fall from the top of the cage i.e. Mick Foley), but you won't feel good afterwards. I think he's in Arkham...just waiting to "save" Gotham from the Bat.
For a new villian maybe they could use Superman's old nemesis
Ambush Bug?. :)
Grayson does rule! Great little flick. So does Batman: Dead End and Worlds Finest. They should be giving these guys a couple million $ and let them rip with official movies.
Yeah I saw Zsasz in the other film. But, I think there is potential there for showing the inner workings of Arkham (and get a few cameos in there). People are dying, and there doesnt seem to be a pattern, but all the 'regular' badguys are all locked up in Blackgate or Arkham. Here's the spot for Matches to do his thing...maybe even a minor victory over Ventriloquist and Scarface or Hatter who just happen to be on a killing spree and get set up by Zsasz. Then show how Zsasz escapes by various means and then returns to his cell unnoticed. Eventually there's some sort of reveal (like the new hashes are between his toes, or on a surrogate, or something) then he escapes one more time to go after Miss Gotham and there's a showdown!
A retelling of the Laughing Fish would be cool or the Doc Phosphorus storyline from Detective Comics.
Ok news wether good or bad. Christopher Nolan the director of Batman Begins and The dark knight has actually approached actress Angelina Jolie to play the next villian CATWOMAN.
In the immortal words of Cartman, "Lame!"
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Ok news wether good or bad. Christopher Nolan the director of Batman Begins and The dark knight has actually approached actress Angelina Jolie to play the next villian CATWOMAN.In the immortal words of Cartman, "Lame!"
Your telling me I don't really like her acting not too mention catwoman has been way overdone.
I think Black Mask and Catwoman would follow the "dark" storyline in Nolan style. Especially now the mob has been introduced and needs a new leader. And that Batman has gone "vigilante". And they need a new love interest. And that Rachel Dawes is dead. The "cat" comment in TDK is just too blatant to overlook.
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I think Black Mask and Catwoman would follow the "dark" storyline in Nolan style. Especially now the mob has been introduced and needs a new leader. And that Batman has gone "vigilante". And they need a new love interest. And that Rachel Dawes is dead. The "cat" comment in TDK is just too blatant to overlook.
Black Mask would be a cool choice. They just recently did a special hardcover, tricked out, murder-mystery retelling of his origin. It was pretty cool. I'm still not so sure about Catwoman though. She has been way overdone, and is more of an anit-hero these days than an outright villain. Still, if they got the right actress, it could work.
But dude, for future reference, next time put a movie spoiler inside a spoiler button. There might still be some folks around here who haven't seen Dark Knight yet. I know...I know... what a bunch of weirdos, but it has been known to happen.
Good call Aberzombie. Wish there was a delete button. A big oops on my part.
There might still be some folks around here who haven't seen Dark Knight yet. I know...I know... what a bunch of weirdos, but it has been known to happen.
Yeah, like those crazy europeans!
And that it didn't air in the movies over the lake is no excuse!*joking*
*getting all giddy*
4 hours till showtime!
[Joe Pesci]Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy[/Joe Pesci]
There might still be some folks around here who haven't seen Dark Knight yet. I know...I know... what a bunch of weirdos, but it has been known to happen.Yeah, like those crazy europeans!
Well now, if y'all became Americans it wouldn't be a problem, would it?
/jk
There might still be some folks around here who haven't seen Dark Knight yet. I know...I know... what a bunch of weirdos, but it has been known to happen.Yeah, like those crazy europeans!Well now, if y'all became Americans it wouldn't be a problem, would it?
/jk
But who would we make fun of then? Texans? ;-)
I would love to see Nolan's take on Hugo Strange. A pretty obscure villain, but the end of DK segways nicely into Strange joining the GCPD's Batman task force just like in the Legends of the Dark Night arc 'Prey.' He also has ties to Falcone and Maroni in the comics.