Did the beta rules for Pathfinder give Monks parity with Fighters for BABs?


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I'm just curious. In the alpha Monks still have what they had in 3.5.


vonklaude wrote:
I'm just curious. In the alpha Monks still have what they had in 3.5.

I doubt it, but hope springs eternal...


I somehow doubt they'll give monks even more attacks with even greater chance of landing them.

-S


vonklaude wrote:
I'm just curious. In the alpha Monks still have what they had in 3.5.

Jason said...

"Changing a monk's BAB is not in the cards, just like it is not for any other class. Changing BAB monkey's with a lot of statistics (especially for the monk with flurry)."

Sooo, I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

Liberty's Edge

One thing they did do, IIRC, was make monks on par with the fighter for Combat Maneuvers (something that allows them to use their level instead of BAB). Combined with the bonus feats they can choose from, you could have a tactical monk that outshines the fighter in some situations.

Sovereign Court

so long as the opponent never takes the defensive feat, thus negating any feats that the monk took.


I honestly don't think full BAB is a critical issue for a monk (although I wouldn't really want to go below 3/4 by multiclassing, for instance), except for one thing: it factors in grappling, which monks should be good at (or at least be able to be good at). Just a couple of points difference due to lower BAB is already pretty significant.


Pangur wrote:
I honestly don't think full BAB is a critical issue for a monk (although I wouldn't really want to go below 3/4 by multiclassing, for instance), except for one thing: it factors in grappling, which monks should be good at (or at least be able to be good at). Just a couple of points difference due to lower BAB is already pretty significant.

Monks no longer use their BAB for grappling, but their level. In other words, for grapple (and other combat manoeuvres) their BAB is equal to their level. They don't get it right away, but relatively early. And maybe the beta will make this ability available at first level.

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