I'm not sure why this hasn't been changed.
Elemental rage: +1d6 elemental damage for one round. 8 rage points.
Powerful blow: +6 damage at level 6. 4 rage points.
Am I the only one seeing an obvious problem here?
Director of Games
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I'm not sure why this hasn't been changed.
Elemental rage: +1d6 elemental damage for one round. 8 rage points.
Powerful blow: +6 damage at level 6. 4 rage points.Am I the only one seeing an obvious problem here?
Hmm.. this is true, but powerful blow applies to only one attack whereas elemental rage applies to all of your attacks (including AoOs) for 1 round. Is this still not enough? I am open to thoughts here.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
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Hmm.. this is true, but powerful blow applies to only one attack whereas elemental rage applies to all of your attacks (including AoOs) for 1 round. Is this still not enough? I am open to thoughts here.Elemental rage: +1d6 elemental damage for one round. 8 rage points.
Powerful blow: +6 damage at level 6. 4 rage points.
Elemental Rage also has the advantage that it can be tailored to overcome specific weaknesses in a particular enemy, but the disparity in cost for what may end up being very low damage bonuses does appear to be an issue to me. Maybe 2d4? This will be a little stronger, and tend toward the average more without being huge?
I'm not sure why this hasn't been changed.
Elemental rage: +1d6 elemental damage for one round. 8 rage points.
Powerful blow: +6 damage at level 6. 4 rage points.Am I the only one seeing an obvious problem here?
Hmm.. this is true, but powerful blow applies to only one attack whereas elemental rage applies to all of your attacks (including AoOs) for 1 round. Is this still not enough? I am open to thoughts here.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
The problem I'm seeing is that a lot of higher-level enemies have resistance to energy 10, meaning that elemental rage won't do anything (unless your character knows about said weakness). What might help is giving the barbarian the ability to increase damage on it. Maybe allow it to be used for 4 rage points (minimum level 6 or so) for +1d6 damage, but give the barbarian the option of spending an additional 2 rage points to up the damage by +1d6, up to +3d6 maximum (or so).
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I'm not sure why this hasn't been changed.
Elemental rage: +1d6 elemental damage for one round. 8 rage points.
Powerful blow: +6 damage at level 6. 4 rage points.Am I the only one seeing an obvious problem here?
Hmm.. this is true, but powerful blow applies to only one attack whereas elemental rage applies to all of your attacks (including AoOs) for 1 round. Is this still not enough? I am open to thoughts here.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
I think that's enough. However, I'd prefer *rangers* to get this ability instead of barbarians, because I feel rangers (or druids) are more closely connected to the nature and elements. So I wouldn't mind if it is was given to the ranger class or cut from the game.
Having said that, I must ask you, Jason, that is there a reason (from the game design perspective) why the barbarian gets the surprising accuracy, which I personally feel would better work as a fighter class feature?
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I don't remember Cuchulain ever causing his opponents to catch on fire or frost springing from his fingertips. He was a mighty warrior who tore the heart out of a dragon bare handed among other deeds.His blood literally boils. Its pretty close to being an elemental manifestation of fire. Does the ability take a little artistic license? Sure. Its a fantasy world, heroes do crazy things just because they're awesome, like Gilgamesh just strolling down to the bottom of the sea to retrieve a plant.
Sure, but I'm not certain I want supernatural abilities for the "martial" classes -- it was one of the main "turn-offs" in 4E for my group.
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I'm not sure why this hasn't been changed.
Elemental rage: +1d6 elemental damage for one round. 8 rage points.
Powerful blow: +6 damage at level 6. 4 rage points.Am I the only one seeing an obvious problem here?
Actually it was changed, but the proportionate difference between Elemental Rage and Powerful Blow was untouched. I find Elemental Rage to be vastly inferior to Powerful Blow, and thus would never choose it.
Having it at 1½ times the rage points of Powerful Blow would be better, I think. 6, that is.