Going back farther, I've a set of 2e psionic cards, and remember there being spell cards as well. It's nothing new.
2E Psionics is hardly something that you want to associate 4E rules with. *shivers at the thought of 2E Psionics rules*
Going back farther, I've a set of 2e psionic cards, and remember there being spell cards as well. It's nothing new.2E Psionics is hardly something that you want to associate 4E rules with. *shivers at the thought of 2E Psionics rules*
What are you talking about? Psionics didn't exist till 3.5. No way no how. Stop spreading your black and vile lies.
What are you talking about? Psionics didn't exist till 3.5. No way no how. Stop spreading your black and vile lies.Going back farther, I've a set of 2e psionic cards, and remember there being spell cards as well. It's nothing new.2E Psionics is hardly something that you want to associate 4E rules with. *shivers at the thought of 2E Psionics rules*
You *are* joking, aren't you? Psionics actually existed in the first edition. Tower of Iron Will, Psionic Shield and the like, if my memory serves.
Not to mention that those Psionic and Spell cards were merely reference cards, akin to cutting up the spell-description part of the character sheet (Hmm, I miss the 2e spell sheet now...) into sections. There was no need (or suggestion) to have them laid out and "tap" the ones you've used.
Nor were you even suggested to use cards. I know I did make index cards for the Psionic powers in 2e, but I did just fine without the Spell cards.
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Not to mention that those Psionic and Spell cards were merely reference cards, akin to cutting up the spell-description part of the character sheet (Hmm, I miss the 2e spell sheet now...) into sections. There was no need (or suggestion) to have them laid out and "tap" the ones you've used.
Nor were you even suggested to use cards. I know I did make index cards for the Psionic powers in 2e, but I did just fine without the Spell cards.
Funny, I don't see a suggestion to use the cards in 4.x either, simply that the designers were using them.
The point was, all this has come before, and will come again.
Here they mention that "Power Cards" will come with the Character Record Sheets, which to me implies that you're expected to use them.
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Here they mention that "Power Cards" will come with the Character Record Sheets, which to me implies that you're expected to use them.
if you buy the record sheets. I can't access the link from work, but I'm pretty sure the PHB will work just fine w/o cards.
If you had a player overwhelmed by spells in 2e you could buy (and use) the spell cards. If you had a player who was overwhelmed by enlarge person/animal growth/divine power/mounted combat/blast radius/whatever you could use These
My point was/is, you cards have existed before 4.x and will exist in 5.x. The idea doesn't mean that anything that uses a method to track powers used/expended doesn't automatically make it 4e.
Here they mention that "Power Cards" will come with the Character Record Sheets, which to me implies that you're expected to use them.
I think it's more for ease of use. My wife and my DM's wife both use spell cards for our current 3.5 game, simply because it's easier for them to A. choose spells and keep track of what they have left, and B. easier for them to have the spell rules on hand rather than flipping through the book.
The cards in 4th Edition are just there to make things a little easier for people.
Roll play it that way then.
Nah, I'm a 3e fan. We roleplay.
Nah, I'm a 3e fan. We roleplay.
Roll play it that way then.
Ha ha, thats why I shouldn't post when I'm at school.,
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What are you talking about? Psionics didn't exist till 3.5. No way no how. Stop spreading your black and vile lies.
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My thoughts are that Pathfinder is very much more a 3.6 version of D&D than 3.9. Is this a good thing? some would say no others yes, the fact is there is such a huge difference between the goals of Paizo and the Goals of Wizards with 4e.
4e is almost a totally new game built from the ground up that its only strong tie with 3rd edition is the fact that the game revolves around picking a race and leveling up. There's nothing wrong with this system as proven very effective in lots of game systems both PnP RPGs, Computer Games, and multiplayer online games.
My personal opinion is that pathfinder will help those who are hesitant about going 4e despite the things they dislike about 3.5 to stick with the PRPG and the 3.5 system. It will also provide people with the ability to build stronger house rules and actually offer new venues for house rules.
I see nothing bad coming out of the Pathfinder RPG. I personally will play Pathfinder and house rule for my games like I've house ruled 3.5 currently. I will likely do such house ruling using the 4e rule set simply because while not very backwards compatible they do have some very nice ideas.
On the card side I personally love using hand outs and cards but 3.5 is too varied for most card handling (equipment and spells being so vastly different that your walking round with far too many cards to manage easily), 4e has slim-lined the rules to make the use of cards easier and im guessing have turned the more complex spells into rituals so that they dont use cards. My own personal website utilises quest cards and this was hinted at as part of the design philosophy in 4e although one of the previews.
Cards only help make the game more enjoyable and are far from restricted to one system or another, I see no reason why they should be used as a for or against argument on 3.5 vs 4e.
