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That's a dude. Go to page 25 and match up the clothing. ;)
In any case, it's no one. I don't think they had alot of art at the time and Seoni is based on concept art.

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http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2008/04/bridget_figure_full.jpg
Don't feel bad... that's a dude and a lot of guys got fooled too.

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Okay, either way the artwork in D1 is seriously wrong. I mean a little kid with a ball gag? A butt shot of the archmage Androgenus the Weird? What gives? This thing's got Nick Logue written all over it.
Ya know...I saw this thread topic and got all puffed up...I thought the OP was talking about me!!! Then I read it and realized he was just ass-scoping the shemale wizard! Sad. ;-)

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I'm pretty sure that JJ once said that that was an early version of Seoni, before they had the official concept art really nailed down.
Correct!
Actually... we DID have the Seoni art down by this point, but we were on a crazy schedule and didn't have enough practice on the modules to keep a tight reign on how our iconics are depicted.
Also: I'm constantly impressed with the ways Nick gets through our profanity filter. His individual words are often fine, but taken in context? Well done, Mr. Logue!

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Wow really.. early Seoni.. I know the picture in D0 with her and a feather in her hair fighting the Darkmantles is based on early concept art.. mainly because I remember seeing a sketch. But not anything like D1.
Learn something new every day. :)
Interesting that artistically, D0 is closer to the Iconics then D1 is (and D0 was the one that didn't have the Iconic stats with it.)

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Greg A. Vaughan wrote:Okay, either way the artwork in D1 is seriously wrong. I mean a little kid with a ball gag? A butt shot of the archmage Androgenus the Weird? What gives? This thing's got Nick Logue written all over it.Ya know...I saw this thread topic and got all puffed up...I thought the OP was talking about me!!! Then I read it and realized he was just ass-scoping the shemale wizard! Sad. ;-)
Wait I thought I read you modeled for that piece of artwork?

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Nicolas Logue wrote:Wait I thought I read you modeled for that piece of artwork?Greg A. Vaughan wrote:Okay, either way the artwork in D1 is seriously wrong. I mean a little kid with a ball gag? A butt shot of the archmage Androgenus the Weird? What gives? This thing's got Nick Logue written all over it.Ya know...I saw this thread topic and got all puffed up...I thought the OP was talking about me!!! Then I read it and realized he was just ass-scoping the shemale wizard! Sad. ;-)
He did!
(for the slurk!)

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Dark_Mistress wrote:Nicolas Logue wrote:Wait I thought I read you modeled for that piece of artwork?Greg A. Vaughan wrote:Okay, either way the artwork in D1 is seriously wrong. I mean a little kid with a ball gag? A butt shot of the archmage Androgenus the Weird? What gives? This thing's got Nick Logue written all over it.Ya know...I saw this thread topic and got all puffed up...I thought the OP was talking about me!!! Then I read it and realized he was just ass-scoping the shemale wizard! Sad. ;-)He did!
(for the slurk!)
Not near enough slime in that illo if you ask me.

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SirUrza wrote:Interesting that artistically, D0 is closer to the Iconics then D1 is (and D0 was the one that didn't have the Iconic stats with it.)Will it explode your understanding of the cosmos if we mention that we started working on D0 after D1, including the art?
:)
Not so much that as learning that Nick is a hottie were-slurk.

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Mike McArtor wrote:Not so much that as learning that Nick is a hottie were-slurk.SirUrza wrote:Interesting that artistically, D0 is closer to the Iconics then D1 is (and D0 was the one that didn't have the Iconic stats with it.)Will it explode your understanding of the cosmos if we mention that we started working on D0 after D1, including the art?
:)
The ball gag was his too.

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Also: I'm constantly impressed with the ways Nick gets through our profanity filter. His individual words are often fine, but taken in context? Well done, Mr. Logue!
Nick has honed the art of profanity to a razor edge. You weren't there for the Shadowrun game he ran at Origins last year in the hotel lobby, but just ask Erik about it. I bet he still has the tic sheet.

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SirUrza wrote:Interesting that artistically, D0 is closer to the Iconics then D1 is (and D0 was the one that didn't have the Iconic stats with it.)Will it explode your understanding of the cosmos if we mention that we started working on D0 after D1, including the art?
:)
Well the art is clear that it was made second, but the fact that D0 doesn't have the Iconics on the last page is what makes things trippy. :)

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Well the art is clear that it was made second, but the fact that D0 doesn't have the Iconics on the last page is what makes things trippy. :)
The complexities of art and product schedules and all that make for some weird developments; that's for sure. The fact that we had Wayne design Seoni and Valeros super early, for example, ended up forcing us to overuse the two of them in illustrations; those two appear in FAR more pictures than any of our other iconics, despite the fact that we eventually hope to give all 12 of them equal screen time. Yet nonetheless... there's still a vibe that Seoni and Valeros (and Merisiel and Kyra to a certain extent) are the "main" iconics of Paizo.
Maybe they are, now, actually. <shrug>

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(smiles) Does anybody remember the fashions from "Encounter at Farpoint", the pilot episode of Star TreK The Next Generation? Somebody, somewhere, tried to justify all the miniskirts on the women in the original series by putting in a couple in the background characters. On the men. Ow.
I get the same feeling when I see the guy on page 21. Everything from the gothy litle gloves to the slippers. It's all a little disturbing. I'm really glad we're getting an image of the character from behind.
Hey, Nick. I have a favor to ask. Can this character, possibly, never show up in Pathfinder Society adventures?
And, ah, same with the Pathfinder RPG. Give Dungeon_grrrl her woman in full plate, fine. Just don't try to balance that image with this one.

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Yet nonetheless... there's still a vibe that Seoni and Valeros (and Merisiel and Kyra to a certain extent) are the "main" iconics of Paizo. Maybe they are, now, actually. <shrug>
Well they are the "core" classes for forming a party and they were the first. I don't mind them being the "main" iconics either, that's not necessarily a bad thing. You just need to find a way to get other 8 to work together with them... I'm thinking Merisiel is the connection between most of them.

Nicolas Logue Contributor |

Hey, Nick. I have a favor to ask. Can this character, possibly, never show up in Pathfinder Society adventures?
And, ah, same with the Pathfinder RPG. Give Dungeon_grrrl her woman in full plate, fine. Just don't try to balance that image with this one.
::Nick tears up entire SEASON 0 overview plan, weeping rivers down his face...also throws away 97 pairs of little goth gloves, and 16 man-mini-skirts...and his Star Trek TNG Season One DVD Box Set....::
Actually, the duelist on the cover of the Art of the Duel Indulgence (the one parrying Commandant Gregory Bonedeuce's lunge) is a hot chick...proof that you don't need platemail to "cover up the goodies" or make sense of a female character kickin ass in fantasy rpg. Though, yes, chicks in full plate RAWK! :-)
I played a chick in full plate once...with an arquebus! It ruled!

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I played a chick in full plate once...with an arquebus! It ruled!
I played a Gnome in Full Plate with an Arquebus and Dual Pistols. He carried around this enormous Keg of Smoke Powder on a little Pack Pony. Everyone in the party was scared that we'd be eating Popcorn Pony one day for dinner after a tragic accident.
Slightly OT, but FYI.

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(smiles) Does anybody remember the fashions from "Encounter at Farpoint", the pilot episode of Star TreK The Next Generation? Somebody, somewhere, tried to justify all the miniskirts on the women in the original series by putting in a couple in the background characters. On the men. Ow.
And not just in the background. Picard was working it every now and then too!
And I say bring him back. Dungeon crawls are half about traps anyway!

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Everything from the gothy litle gloves to the slippers. It's all a little disturbing. I'm really glad we're getting an image of the character from behind.
O_o !!!!
(Be careful what you wish for...you may just get it...)
Hey, Nick. I have a favor to ask. Can this character, possibly, never show up in Pathfinder Society adventures?
No problem; he's the iconic poster-boy for their new product-line;
The Pathfinder Yaoi Hentai Choose-your-own-Adventure Books!

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So who's the hot lady in scanty clothing on page 21? Can we get more art of her?
That would be "Lola".
I have noticed that Greg Vaughan's adventures and modules seem to get the best art of Seoni. See River into Darkness p. 21 and Rise of the Runelords #6 p43.
Too bad his amazon warriors in River into Darkness got turned into Pygmy Keches. In the playtest they lept from the branches wearing nothing but Black mambas as well ;-)
ASEO out