It's going to be hard to scrounge up some players to do a nice playtest, but I'll try my best. Anyways...
I'm wondering how multiclassing is supposed to work in regard to the skill training system. If I am trained in a skill I'm supposed to add Level+3 to my check if it's a class skill, or 1/2Level+3 if it's a cross-class skill.
... What happens if I have 4 levels in a class and 4 in another and am trained in a skill that is cross-class for one of the two? Do I have a total bonus of +9 to the check?
Also, if all classes get more abilities and features each level, but all such features are based on class level, won't this make multiclassing without PrCs even lamer than before?
It's going to be hard to scrounge up some players to do a nice playtest, but I'll try my best. Anyways...
I'm wondering how multiclassing is supposed to work in regard to the skill training system. If I am trained in a skill I'm supposed to add Level+3 to my check if it's a class skill, or 1/2Level+3 if it's a cross-class skill.
... What happens if I have 4 levels in a class and 4 in another and am trained in a skill that is cross-class for one of the two? Do I have a total bonus of +9 to the check?
Also, if all classes get more abilities and features each level, but all such features are based on class level, won't this make multiclassing without PrCs even lamer than before?
On skills. All class skills from all classes are class skills as it stands now. Therefore, if I'm a 2/1 rogue/wizard, I have all rogue and wizard skills as class skills at the Lvl+3. If I took Know Arcana at first level as a cross class for rogue, it becomes a class skill for me as soon as I take a level of wizard.
Many of the class skills are ambiguous right now on if they are character or class level based. Read each one for clarification. And yes some of those are weaker for being based on class level, but that is the trade-off of multiclassing.
If I took Know Arcana at first level as a cross class for rogue, it becomes a class skill for me as soon as I take a level of wizard.
Does it also stay a class skill if I resume taking levels in rogue at a certain point?
If I took Know Arcana at first level as a cross class for rogue, it becomes a class skill for me as soon as I take a level of wizard.Does it also stay a class skill if I resume taking levels in rogue at a certain point?
As it currently stands, the answer to your question is yes.
As it currently stands, the answer to your question is yes.
It would make multiclassing worthwile at least from this point. Good, I like it.
Will this cause all players to take their 1 level in rogue?
Will this cause all players to take their 1 level in rogue?
Considering they may not really need all the class skills the rogue might give them, and considering that they may get important class features later, there's no real reason for them to do this.
... Unless they already decided they want to be skill monkeys anyways, but there's usually better options around if you're not really interested in the rogue anyways. Ranger, for example.
But casters and people who don't really need more class skills than they already have usually won't need to do such. This will only benefit people that want to multiclass for a specific purpose, which is good in my book considering how multiclassing is bad for your health anyways.
My concern is making the Rogue class useless, to a point at least. If someone can take Rogue at 1st level then never go back, why have a Rogue in the group? I realize Rogues have other abilities, I am just thinking about the usefulness of a skill monger in a system like this.
My concern is making the Rogue class useless, to a point at least. If someone can take Rogue at 1st level then never go back, why have a Rogue in the group? I realize Rogues have other abilities, I am just thinking about the usefulness of a skill monger in a system like this.
Hmm nevermind, thanks Urza ;)
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My concern is making the Rogue class useless, to a point at least. If someone can take Rogue at 1st level then never go back, why have a Rogue in the group? I realize Rogues have other abilities, I am just thinking about the usefulness of a skill monger in a system like this.
Nothing, but the same arguement could be said abotu splashing barbarian for 1 level of rage, or splashing fighter for 2 free feats. It goes on and on and on.