Do specialist school powers need components? Strong effect on universal school

[marc paris]

Typically, as school powers are spell like abilities, they should not need components. This makes the universal school pretty strong, for giving component-less access to limited wishes and wishes on higher levels. Of course, the painful component about a (limited or full) wish is the XP Component

If components are needed, the universal school is rather weak, because noone would spend these amounts of XP per day.

Paizo: please add a short sentence on p. 46 at the end of "school powers" clarifying if school powers (SP) need components.

My suggestion: NO! components

[seekerofshadowlight]

They are spell like ability's not spells. so no they dont need em.

[Gnome Ninja]

Unfortunately, the Universal School is just that powerful. Spell-likes require no XP burn, otherwise those Efreet would be hurtin'. So, yes, you do get free, consequence-less (at least XP- and gp-wise) Wishes and Limited Wishes.

[Epic Meepo]

Gnome Ninja wrote:

Unfortunately, the Universal School is just that powerful... you do get free, consequence-less (at least XP- and gp-wise) Wishes and Limited Wishes.

Yes, but in this thread, Jason Bulmahn said that he plans on removing all XP costs from the game, so normal Pathfinder wishes aren't going to have an XP cost either.

[Epic Meepo]

(The board monster is trying to eat my post, so this might be a repost.)

Gnome Ninja wrote:

Unfortunately, the Universal School is just that powerful... you do get free, consequence-less (at least XP- and gp-wise) Wishes and Limited Wishes.

Yes, but in this thread, Jason Bulmahn said that he plans on removing all XP costs from the game, so normal Pathfinder wishes aren't going to have an XP cost either.

[Selgard]

I hope they narrow down the wording on the Wish spell then. I've had a game before where there were no XP costs involved- and even though we weren't Trying to break the game it did tend to get out of hand.