Just had a quick question for anybody who can answer. Also sorry for doing a new thread on this but i simply couldnt' find much info on this after much searching. Maybe I just would like an official answer lol. Anyways, this free weapon proficiency for humans. I don't believe it was clarified anywhere on whether this was going to be from the simple and martial weapon groups or if it included exotic weapons as well. Does anybody know for absolutely sure what weapon group(s) this spans. Thank you in advance :D
Weapon means weapon. Not non-exotic Weapon. Not single weapon. So I say exotic weapons are in.
And it's not that much, really.
Says ANY one weapon.
Yeah i seen the "any one weapon" so i assumed it was any weapon no matter the type as well, just wanted some opinions to see if i was the only one who interpreted that sentence that way. Thank you all for much for your reply's thusfar :D
Just wanted to add in there that I love this addition. It wasn't but two months ago i raised the question of whether humans should get a free weapon proficiency (exotic or non) on other boards and I was quickly put to the kaboosh on that one. Nice to see it come to fruition though, thanks Paizo for that one.
My .02$...
I like the idea, however, I would modify it a bit...
Based on your initial class... Only classes that know all martial weapons should be allowed to pick an exotic weapon; all other classes, a martial one.
Exotic weapons gone? I would like the sound of that lol. Is that the general direction the paizo rpg is heading? Sorry for the dumb question but I don't get a lot of time reading every little aspect. That would be nice though. I never really got why training with any weapon in particular would be harder than others (Yes I know that may not be the case but it is in a way as well, would take as much time to master a staff (bo or otherwise) as it would to use a bastard sword one handed etc. Just my thoughts anywho. :P
I find that the human changes proposed make them even more of "too much of a good thing."
I have seldom seen non-human characters in my games of 3.5, because humans are just too attractive an option to many people. Their versatility is nice, but really the extra feat and boost to skills sold people.
Giving a free weapon seems excessive to me. Personally, I'd prefer to leave humans as the only race not to get a stat bonus, because I really do think they are that appealing. I'd rather overly nerf them and then correct than continue with the status quo.
For the record, I can only think of one half orc character I've had a player use, and that was a lark. I can only think of two half elves and one elf. There are a few more dwarves and halflings I have seen, but never have I seen a gnome. EVER.
Keep in mind, this is with 6 years of 3.0 then 3.5 playing. Humans really have been that good to my groups.
I find that the human changes proposed make them even more of "too much of a good thing."
I have seldom seen non-human characters in my games of 3.5, because humans are just too attractive an option to many people. Their versatility is nice, but really the extra feat and boost to skills sold people.
Giving a free weapon seems excessive to me. Personally, I'd prefer to leave humans as the only race not to get a stat bonus, because I really do think they are that appealing. I'd rather overly nerf them and then correct than continue with the status quo.
For the record, I can only think of one half orc character I've had a player use, and that was a lark. I can only think of two half elves and one elf. There are a few more dwarves and halflings I have seen, but never have I seen a gnome. EVER.
Keep in mind, this is with 6 years of 3.0 then 3.5 playing. Humans really have been that good to my groups.
Strikingly similar to my experience . . .mostly humans, no gnomes, the 1 per group elf or dwarf usually . . no 1/2sies (partially my tastes as well) . . 1 halfling maybe.
I really like the idea of dropping the stat bonus, actually.
Our group is human-heavy as well, but has been since 2e; it's more of a player preference than a game mechanics one (you know, "I'm not gonna play a freakin' garden ornament! Gimme a break!").
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My .02$...
I like the idea, however, I would modify it a bit...
Based on your initial class... Only classes that know all martial weapons should be allowed to pick an exotic weapon; all other classes, a martial one.
You could easily base this off of whether or not they start with +1 or +0 attack bonus instead or in addition to.