Do you get your Pathfinder's from a non-subscription source?


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That's the question I'm curious to hear about.

If you subscribe to Pathfinder, please don't post in this thread. I really don't want to see any subscriber tags up in here.

If you get your Pathfinder from your FLGS or any other non-subscription source, I'd like to hear about it. Tell me why you don't subscribe. I'm very curious. Wanting to support your FLGS is most certainly a valid reason and one that Paizo supports! I'm curious how many of you there are on our boards.

Thanks!

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The first reason is that my income is not nearly as stable as I'd like. I have been able to buy all of the RotRL but my income varies wildly, and I mean wildly.

The second reason is that I want to support my FLGS (shout out to Wizard's Tower, Ottawa). I will even drive past another gaming store that also carries Pathfinder to get to the store that reaches out to the gamer community.

The third reason is if it showed up on my credit card, I'd have to justify it to my wife during those months with little income.


I purchase the Pathfinder mods through Amazon.com or my local store. Amazon.com offers the same discount you do and free shipping. My local store gives me a 35% discount on all my purchases.

The new offer has piqued my interest. How much do you charge for shipping the installments of a Pathfinder subscription? What is the shipping charge if it is combined with a Game Mastery subscription?

I would subscribe tomorrow if I knew that Pathfinder was NOT going 4.0. I would also subscribe if a new rules system like a 3.75 was in the works. The only reason I go throught the hassle for the discounts is because I'm pretty sure I will lose interest if Pathfinder and Game Mastery goes 4.0.

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I support my local FLGS. They're good people and I've bought stuff there I wouldn't have been aware of otherwise.

From my experience with Dragon several year ago, I learned that their distributors are a lot more reliable the postal service.


I own a bookstore and while its not a game related bookstore it soon dawned on me that its possible to open an account with a game distributer, in my case Lion Rampant, to special order products for a 'customer'. So I buy directly from the distributer as if I were a game store.


I use Amazon.ca up here in Canada for Rise of the Runelords, but after seeing the amount of time I'd have to wait for the last 4 issues of that series and not getting the PDF version as well, I caved and got the subscription for Curse of the Crimson Throne.

I am also hesitant about 4E and will not pass any judgment on it until I see it as a whole. This may or may not determine if I continue my subscription past CotCT.

I am not sure if I will use the 15% off for having a subscription until I see more about the Gamemastery books and other Pathfinder Accessories.


I buy Pathfinder from my FLGS. I did consider subscribing, but decided that I'd like to help support my local independent shop. My gaming society has had long ties with the shop owner - most of us buy all our RPG items from him and have done for years. :)


I have Pathfinder sent to me from Leisure Games in London. I used to get Dungeon & Dragon mags from them and they have always been very good.

Once the mags bit the dust I asked them to continue but with Patfinder instead.

Liberty's Edge

I would like to subscribe to Pathfinder if you could offer a cheaper
shipmentrate for European/German subscriber.

USD 6,95 for a single Issue is not tempting, even considering the 30%
discount off Pathfinder's cover price.

So I have to support my FLGS.


Shipping is a big thing. I heavily debated between your subscriptions and my FLGS, but even with the 30% off shipping made your price the same as theirs, plus I wanted to support them.

Admittedly I feel I made a mistake. They haven't gotten the last three Pathfinder issues in and when asked about it the answer was basically a "meh?" So I'm a little peeved with them and am back to debating your subscription services. Honestly the one of the only reasons I'm not signed up is I have a grad school audition in 2 weeks and will need to save major dollars if I get it.


To support my local store, and to prevent my copies from being damaged by being crammed into my little apartment-building mailbox or left on my doorstep for people to step on/steal.

Since Pathfinder is literally the only RPG product I'm buying anymore (along with the occasional GameMastery thing), the cost really isn't that big a deal.


For several reasons,

1st: I like to support not just my FLGS but all FLGS, I travel a lot for work and make a point of finding and buying something from every FLGS in every town I visit.

2nd: I'm an impulse buyer. If I see something I want, I want it then and there, either hard copy or pdf. Nothing pisses me off more than seeing something in a shop and knowing I've already got a copy of it comming in the mail.

3rd: Frieght to Australia is not cheap. If I am going to order something I want several items to cut frieght costs, so would rather not have an automatic monthly commitment.

4th: I'm not going to subscribe to Pathfinder until I know when Piazo is switching to 4.0, I'm not somekind of anti-4.0 nazi but I will be sticking with 3.5 until I've tapped out the huge backlog of 3.5 pdf matterial. I went from 1.0 straight to 3.5 and will be happy to wait until 7.0 before making the next edition change.

The Troll


I order from Paizo, but don't subscribe, I'm from Ireland and I've never seen an American or even british subscription service be available to me here on the Emerald Isle. I ordered burnt offerings from Amazon.co.uk, because I threw it in with an order I was already getting, but mostly I order from the Paizo website, you guys do have excellent delivery times to Ireland though, and have beaten any other American company and the british Amazon for delivery times before.


Joshua J. Frost wrote:

That's the question I'm curious to hear about.

If you subscribe to Pathfinder, please don't post in this thread. I really don't want to see any subscriber tags up in here.

If you get your Pathfinder from your FLGS or any other non-subscription source, I'd like to hear about it. Tell me why you don't subscribe. I'm very curious. Wanting to support your FLGS is most certainly a valid reason and one that Paizo supports! I'm curious how many of you there are on our boards.

Thanks!

I get my pathfinder and gmm from a german shop. i don't subscribe, because i do not have a credit card. i have paypal, but there is no way to use it here and i do not like sending cash or check.

another things: i don't know shipping costs if i would order here at paizo. 20$ + shipping cost would be likely more expensive compared to ordering from by shop who sells the pathfinders for 16€ and no shipping cost (as brightknight said). I also doubt i would get the issues much earlier. only begative about not ordering from paizo is that i do not get the PDFs but i can live with that

Liberty's Edge

I usually buy from my local store. Lately it has been hard to find it at the store closest to me due to popularity so I might special order through them or directly on the website.

I have subscribed....twice. The first time I simply was not using the product so I decided I would pick them up when I could. Even then it was only to read each issue as opposed to running them. I had to cancel this latest time because my financial situation is mutable enough that the per month charge is difficult for me to maintain. School takes precedence. I will peruse each copy in the store and pick it up when I can.

Honestly if I could subscribe to a particular path and pay for it ahead of time I would be a very happy man. That way, the money is spent and I don't have to worry about it for 6 months. I am unsure how much of a logistical nightmare that might be for Paizo but I can't imagine I am the only one who has problems with a month to month charge.


I cancelled my subscription after PF #4, partly because the AP was not going in a direction I liked so I didn't think I'd use the later chapters, and partly because of the international shipping. US$5 per issue works out to a lot of wasted $$$ per AP that could have gone into a few GM modules when I have zero use for the hard copies.

I'd resubscribe in a heartbeat if you introduced a PDF-only subscription. I'd gladly pay the same $13.99 per issue for the right to download the PDF the same time as other subscribers, and forego the book and related shipping cost. I know the answer to a PDF-only subscription has always been no, but I don't see the reason for it.

Until then, I'll buy the PDF's as they become available, and in all likelihood be more selective about what I buy than if it were a subscription. Human nature.


I kept trying to buy from Amazon, but they had so many delays, I finally gave up and re-subscribed.


Joshua J. Frost wrote:


If you subscribe to Pathfinder, please don't post in this thread. I really don't want to see any subscriber tags up in here.

This is the worst kind of discrimination - the kind against me! ;-P

brightknight wrote:

I would like to subscribe to Pathfinder if you could offer a cheaper

shipmentrate for European/German subscriber.

USD 6,95 for a single Issue is not tempting, even considering the 30%
discount off Pathfinder's cover price.

So I have to support my FLGS.

The reason I so openly defy Joshua (well, in addition to my anarchic streak) is because I want to comment on that.

With the euro-dollar exchange rate as it is now, pathfinder costs me a little more than €13 (13,17 for the december issue). I don't know about your local stores, but those near me charge more than 13 bucks for pathfinder. And then, there's the PDFs, which I find extremely useful.

Not that I want you to abandon your FLGS, I'm just saying that the price isn't that bad.

Plus, you'd be hard-pressed to get cheaper shipping over all that water.


I buy most of my paizo stuff from nobleknight.com, with which I have a long lasting business relationship...
I've considered to subscribe, but the shipping price for Italy is just too high.

Ciao!


Joshua J. Frost wrote:
If you subscribe to Pathfinder, please don't post in this thread. I really don't want to see any subscriber tags up in here.

I'll soon be getting my last transition Pathfinder (#7) (as you can see, I'm not a "Charter" subscriber), so I'm sure you'll make an exception.

Joshua J. Frost wrote:
If you get your Pathfinder from your FLGS or any other non-subscription source, I'd like to hear about it. Tell me why you don't subscribe. I'm very curious. Wanting to support your FLGS is most certainly a valid reason and one that Paizo supports! I'm curious how many of you there are on our boards.

I won't be subscribing for a few reasons:

- I'm in Canada, and thus the shipping here from Paizo is slow and brutal. And expensive. And sometimes not reliable. It's like the part of the US postal system that Paizo uses thinks there's a 2-mile high wall right at the Canadian border. I can get multiple DVD box sets from across the other side of Canada in 2 days for $5-7 shipping (or less). But strangely, other things I order from the US don't encounter these issues... and I simply don't know why...

- Unfavorable exchange. Yes, the $CDN is good compared to the $US (right now; who knows in the future?), but I still get dinged with a foreign currency transaction fee no matter how I pay for it.

- Amazon.ca sells it for cheaper, and I don't pay for shipping (really: paying for shipping is one of my biggest bugaboos). And I have a better idea when it'll arrive.

- Unknown future direction of Paizo: I need the flexibility to easily stop all purchases when Paizo moves to 4e (as I won't be purchasing any 4e products).


I get it through my FLGS (Music Quest in Worcester, MA!!). I thought about subscribing, but would have only saved $2 in the process, so I figured I could afford to give the $2 to the counter monkey.

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The Real Troll wrote:
The new offer has piqued my interest. How much do you charge for shipping the installments of a Pathfinder subscription? What is the shipping charge if it is combined with a Game Mastery subscription?

In most cases, a shipment containing up to 4 pounds of books will cost no more than $5 domestically and $6.86 internationally, so that would be the price for adding a GameMastery Modules subscription or a Planet Stories subscription, or even both.

Dark Archive

I don't subscribe for two reasons-
1. My mailbox kinda sucks and my mail is often wet and always bent if it's anything bigger than a letter. And I want my Pathfinders in nice condition.
2. I work at a bookstore, and I've been able to order some of the issues and use my employee discount, so that benefit combined with the first problem makes me not really want to subscribe.

They're great books and I plan to keep buying them, but unless I get a different apartment and job; I won't be subscribing.

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I get it from my FLGS. I like to support them.

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