First glimpse at 4th Edition Eberron in April


4th Edition


Not good at links but here ya go:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/eberron/217237200

Its an Eberron book that is an overview of the campaign setting. Since its referred to as a coffee table book its 100% fluff with 0% crunch.

Since the D&D logo is 4th edition style and the cover layout is similar but different its a 4th edition book.

So this may be worth checking out to see what happened to the gnome and half-orc dragonmarked houses and where teiflings and dragonborn fit into things and if psionics will be mentioned.

Also...The cover looked very familiar...Ist it an old Dragon cover? 4th edition keeps stealing Dragon/Dungeon art! ;)

Sovereign Court Contributor

Jason Grubiak wrote:

Not good at links but here ya go: LINKED

Fixed it for ya!


Cover art does look familiar but then again all warforged look alike to me.

Spoiler:
But that is like saying all toasters look alike :P


ArchLich wrote:
Cover art does look familiar but then again all warforged look alike to me.

I don't think that's a warforged...


Rauol_Duke wrote:
ArchLich wrote:
Cover art does look familiar but then again all warforged look alike to me.
I don't think that's a warforged...

My gods! That warforged has a human in it!


ArchLich wrote:
Rauol_Duke wrote:
ArchLich wrote:
Cover art does look familiar but then again all warforged look alike to me.
I don't think that's a warforged...
My gods! That warforged has a human in it!

IIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...


Looks something like this


Damn Salama beat me to it looks like another book of fluff to keep the money coming in till fourth edition arrives. Not enermously interested but i'm probably not the target audience. The art recycling bothers me however. If I did fork out good hard earned cash for this book I would be pretty steamed if the art then turned out to be re heated left overs of product I already own. Hope this isn't the start of a trend.


You would at least expect it to have new cover art, then maybe you could get fooled to think it has some new material... =)

Sovereign Court Contributor

Actually, this is one trend that particularly has bothered me lately. Recycling art has always irked me a bit, but it bothers me more now that Wizards has started recycling art that Paizo produced for the magazines. I know they have the legal right and all that, but to me it just seems like an extra kick in the groin to Paizo's fans who didn't want the mags cancelled. And, you know, to the company that put all that stuff together in the first place.

EDIT: I just noticed too: The guy on the cover of the Eberron art book has a symbol of St. Cuthbert painted on his armour.


Rambling Scribe wrote:
I just noticed too: The guy on the cover of the Eberron art book has a symbol of St. Cuthbert painted on his armour.

LOL. That's ironic...

Maybe St. Cuthbert will be an Eberron deity in 4E ;-)


This could very well be placeholder art, folks. The real cover might not look anything like that.

Cheers,
Cam


Cam Banks wrote:

This could very well be placeholder art, folks. The real cover might not look anything like that.

Cheers,
Cam

Of course. I don't know why, but I just thought that WotC doesn't use placeholder art at all in products section. But of course it's a possibility. Oh and it seems that the cover has different title (Adventurer's guide, not Survival guide)...

Sovereign Court Contributor

Cam Banks wrote:

This could very well be placeholder art, folks. The real cover might not look anything like that.

Cheers,
Cam

That's possible, but I'm pretty sure there was a different place-holder cover up until a few days ago.


You guys are doomed. Logan Bonner wrote it. He's the same guy who couldn't get the 3.5 tumble rules straight. What in god's name makes people think he can write THIS?

I'm not a big fan of Eberron, because the game is such that the flavor SERIOUSLY requires "The Right Kind of GM who understands all that is steampunk" which is a very limited group of people.

I do have the right kind of GM for it, fortunately.


Since this is similar to the "well-received" *snicker* "Dungeon Survivial Guide", I wouldn't expect too much, folks.

64 pages of....stuff.


It's almost surely place-holder art, as the two side images are from Secrets of Sarlona and Faiths of Eberron respectively. That said I don't like the sound of the guy they have writing it, I hope 4e doesn't muck up Eberron too much.

Scarab Sages

It's not a game book. It's in the same vein as A Grand History of the Realms. A Coffee Table book.


64 pages, hardcover, for $20? Are they kidding? Why print a fluff/update preview in hardcover and then charge $20 for it? And after the uproar over the Forgotten Realms, I can't wait to see how they shoehorn in Eberron...


vagrant-poet wrote:
I hope 4e doesn't muck up Eberron too much.

Well, they have to get rid of half-orcs and gnomes, and have to introduce tieflings as big players, and dragonborn, too. They have to explain why a lot of the choices from before are not going to be in.

One of the main arguments for Eberron was that it was a setting tailor-made for 3.5e. Add to that their desire to muck everything up and I think that Eberron will be as doomed as the realms.

The Exchange

KaeYoss wrote:
vagrant-poet wrote:
I hope 4e doesn't muck up Eberron too much.

Well, they have to get rid of half-orcs and gnomes, and have to introduce tieflings as big players, and dragonborn, too. They have to explain why a lot of the choices from before are not going to be in.

One of the main arguments for Eberron was that it was a setting tailor-made for 3.5e. Add to that their desire to muck everything up and I think that Eberron will be as doomed as the realms.

Though - to be fair - by the time 4E Eberron does come out Gnomes will be ready to play IIRC.

Dark Archive

As I understand it, every setting is going to have a Players Guide and a setting (i.e. DM's) guide.

If gnomes are not playable out of the MM, they'll just put them in the Eberron players guide, along with warforged, kalashtar and the rest.


Jason Grubiak wrote:
Also...The cover looked very familiar...Ist it an old Dragon cover? 4th edition keeps stealing Dragon/Dungeon art! ;)

http://paizo.com/dragon/products/issues/2002/v5748btpy7zjh

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