Keith Baker Developer of Eberron Answers The Tough Questions about D&D 4th Edition!


4th Edition

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Some of you might have missed this...This is soo freaking funny... Found it on Keith Bakers Web site...

Here at Bossy the Cow, we're not afraid to ask the tough questions. Questions like:

WHAT'S THE BIGGEST SURPRISE IN FOURTH EDITION DUNGEONS & DRAGONS?

1. All the product placement. "Haste" spell changed to "Do the Dew™".

2. Now 80% Dungeons, 20% Dragons

3. Chinese gold farmers can get you to 20th level in 6 days!

4. Iron rations are made out of PEOPLE!

5. Revolutionary new THAC1 system! (It's one higher, isn't it?)

6. Traditional elves replaced by Keebler elves. Drizzt now a renegade fudge elf who wields twin graham crackers.

7. Twenty-part adventure path requires heroes to "Save the Cheerleader… save the Realms."

8. New version actually DOES drive kids to Satan.

9. New system actually based on popular "Dumb & Dumber" franchise.

10. How many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop? 1d8+2. And a crunch.

11. Combat system abandons primitive dice in favor of cool "Wii"-mote.

12. Iconic characters from PHB replaced by the PCs from Order of the Stick

13. And of course…

Don't you mean "KEITH BAKER'S D&D 4th Edition"?


Hilarious! Keith Baker has a great (and much needed) sense of humor. I think his last point also has a double intention - as many of the D&D 4th Ed. conceits mentioned in the Worlds and Monsters Book are his innovations. Thoughts?

Cheers


Highly amusing, at least.

And I'd love to see the OotS crew as the new iconics. If nothing else, they'd be entertaining to see in every book.


I think a lot these are created by the readers of his web site. They are very funny (and so are a lot of the other Baker's Dozen)!


Dragnmoon wrote:


6. Traditional elves replaced by Keebler elves. Drizzt now a renegade fudge elf who wields twin graham crackers.

Oh man... that one line... just about killed me.

(I've got the mental image... it's.... too much...

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There is actually a longer version...here

I would post it... but is is a little risqué


These are awesome. Best 4E post in a long long time. :D

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Lathiira wrote:
And I'd love to see the OotS crew as the new iconics. If nothing else, they'd be entertaining to see in every book.

I'd seriously buy a OotSCS. Talking my gaming group into playing it would be a piece of cake (hell of alot easier then talking them into playing anything else).

But yes, excellent 4E post. Much needed humor.


Keith Baker wrote:
Pornomancers

Hey now! That's from Unknown Armies, it's already been done.

Scarab Sages

This one was my favourite:

Now only two classes – pirate and ninja. Monkey and robot to be added in 4.5

:)


hmarcbower wrote:

This one was my favourite:

Now only two classes – pirate and ninja. Monkey and robot to be added in 4.5

:)

Christ, now I've gotta try and get these noodles out of my nose.

Never, never eat ramen while reading jokes.

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hmarcbower wrote:

This one was my favourite:

Now only two classes – pirate and ninja. Monkey and robot to be added in 4.5

:)

I Like this one... :-)

Lame "elves" and "halflings" replaced by k3wl "warforged".

Scarab Sages

That's pretty good. Almost funny enough to make up for the sin that is Eberron....

Just kidding....

Spoiler:
Not really....

Spoiler:
Ok, maybe just a little...

Spoiler:
Naah, not really...

Spoiler:
Just wanted to see if you'd click this one.

Scarab Sages

Damn you Aberzombie for exploiting my compulsion to click on "Show" buttons.

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hmarcbower wrote:
Damn you Aberzombie for exploiting my compulsion to click on "Show" buttons.

Must not.... push... show button.... must not........ARGH!!!!!!

Scarab Sages

Dragnmoon wrote:
hmarcbower wrote:
Damn you Aberzombie for exploiting my compulsion to click on "Show" buttons.
Must not.... push... show button.... must not........ARGH!!!!!!

He he he....

*Chants* The Power of "Show" compels you! The Power of "Show" compels you! The Power of "Show" compels you!

Dark Archive

Dragnmoon wrote:

12. Iconic characters from PHB replaced by the PCs from Order of the Stick

See, I totally miss the cartoons from 1st edition!

"Back off wizard, or the familiar gets it!"

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NO, not Black Leaf! No, NO!

I just pissed myself laughing and woke up my wife... who was not amused at 1am (and 3 days to go until she is due to give birth).

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flash_cxxi wrote:

NO, not Black Leaf! No, NO!

I just pissed myself laughing and woke up my wife... who was not amused at 1am (and 3 days to go until she is due to give birth).

If I understood what it meant... I am sure i would laugh :-)

*now someone is going to tell me and make me feel like an idiot for not seeing it*


There are also new alignments, from what I understand.

Lawful Stupid--

Spoiler:
If a rule exists that says something can be done, Player will enact said rule...even at points where there is no reason to do so.

Nuetral Stupid--

Spoiler:
Has never bothered to read the rulebook and depends on the player to the left to help him figure out which dice to roll and when.

Chaotic Stupid--

Spoiler:
Downloads super-kewl stuff from amateur messageboards that has never been playtested and expects to be able to use them as if they were core mechanics. Expects the DM to bend every rule in favor of his, and only his, PC.


Dragnmoon wrote:
flash_cxxi wrote:

NO, not Black Leaf! No, NO!

I just pissed myself laughing and woke up my wife... who was not amused at 1am (and 3 days to go until she is due to give birth).

If I understood what it meant... I am sure i would laugh :-)

*now someone is going to tell me and make me feel like an idiot for not seeing it*

Unless I'm mistaken, it's a reference to Anti-D&D comics from the 1960's which featured a female Dungeon Master who took a girl under her wing and helped her develop actual magical powers. Another friend was playing as well, but her character was killed (the aforementioned Black Leaf) and she committed suicide.

The entire thing reeked of the aroma of McCarthyism and Religious Dogma. Kind of like the atrocious movie "Mazes and Monsters" starring Tom Hanks, if you've had the displeasure of seeing it.


Dragnmoon wrote:
flash_cxxi wrote:

NO, not Black Leaf! No, NO!

I just pissed myself laughing and woke up my wife... who was not amused at 1am (and 3 days to go until she is due to give birth).

If I understood what it meant... I am sure i would laugh :-)

*now someone is going to tell me and make me feel like an idiot for not seeing it*

A guy by the name of Jack Chick has been churning out a series of newsprint comic-strip-style pamphlets since the mid 70s, deriding just about everything as "Anti-Christian" and showing how rejecting all wrong stuff and turning to Jesus is Your Only Hope...

One of the more infamous "Chick Tracts" was called Dark Dungeons, and it showed how "evil D&D" corrupted those dumb enough to play it instead of turning to Christ. One of the characters in the comic strip has her PC, a thief named Blackleaf, get killed - and hangs herself because she can't go on without poor Blackleaf.

Sovereign Court

Bryon_Kershaw wrote:


Unless I'm mistaken, it's a reference to Anti-D&D comics from the 1960's which featured a female Dungeon Master who took a girl under her wing and helped her develop actual magical powers. Another friend was playing as well, but her character was killed (the aforementioned Black Leaf) and she committed suicide.

The entire thing reeked of the aroma of McCarthyism and Religious Dogma. Kind of like the atrocious movie "Mazes and Monsters" starring Tom Hanks, if you've had the displeasure of seeing it.

there was no D&D in the 1960s. Surely you mean the 1980s ?

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Hey look, Dark Dungeons

Scarab Sages

Oh sweet Jebus it's been a long time since I read that. Good times all around... :)


hmarcbower wrote:
Oh sweet Jebus it's been a long time since I read that. Good times all around... :)

"I don't want to be Elfstar- I want to be Debbie".

Gotta love the Chick- if you're not a Evangelical WASP, yer goin' to hell.
Poor loon probably needs his food cut up for him.

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Bryon_Kershaw wrote:


Unless I'm mistaken, it's a reference to Anti-D&D comics from the 1960's which featured a female Dungeon Master who took a girl under her wing and helped her develop actual magical powers. Another friend was playing as well, but her character was killed (the aforementioned Black Leaf) and she committed suicide.

The entire thing reeked of the aroma of McCarthyism and Religious Dogma. Kind of like the atrocious movie "Mazes and Monsters" starring Tom Hanks, if you've had the displeasure of seeing it.

Ahh Yes...YOu have the date wrong... But I do remember that... and I have seen Mazes and Monsters..

I also have a Printed Spoof of that Comic printed by White-Wolf during thier pre media Blitz of Hunter: The Reckoning.. Now if only I could find an online version of that..


Chris Mortika wrote:
Hey look, Dark Dungeons

There's a ton of parodies and spin-offs for that:

Darque Dungeon The Chique Trac Vampirised - including the lack of fear of the F-word, so beware.

Mystery Science Theater 3000 Presents Dark Dungeons The commented version of the tract.

Who will be eaten first This one uses original art, not just new texts. Instead of Christian beliefs, the Mythos is used.

There also was a counter to it using the webcomic PvP's characters, called Jesus Kills (this one wasn't to be taken as seriously as Chick wants his trackts to be taken).

There must be others out there.

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