Hi all,
Just watched the D&D4 trailer on Youtube (yes I'm late...). Never have I seen worst a commercial, who not only bashes all previous editions of the game, but makes players look stupid and in dire need of all the great improvements that saint WOTC will provide them.
WOTC: wise and overlordly
Players: stupid, need their god WOTC to provide them with good stuff they are too stupid to have already houseruled.
It's lame. It's insulting. And it's not even funny...
Also, as a Frenchman, I would like to apologize on behalf of my country and all french gamers for the guy who presents it. If I could buy him to beat him up, I would. He's so arrogant and his english is so bad that I would have him executed in the minute. Forgive us.
And to finish, I especially enjoyed the statement "Ze gameu will remain zeu sameuu" (heavyweight french accent). Yeah, right. Except you won't be able to use your 3ed books, settings are dramatically altered, no more saves, 30 levels (???), different rolls for weapons and combats, no more gnomes, no more druids, etc etc...
Am I the only thinking this is one of the worst jokes ever made?
Especially if everybody sees it that way.
The game remains the same? Good, then I don't need to buy it. Kthxbye.
If they write a 4th edition that is backwards-compatible with 3.5, then I won't be buying anything but the core rulebooks.
If it's not compatible, there's an excellent chance that I won't be interested in playing it, so, also not buying anything past the core books.
It's like trying to sell cars by saying "Hey, remember last year's model? Boy, it sure sucked, didn't it? Bad mileage, poor handling, and that big transmission recall... But we're fixing it! Honest! This year's model is going to fix all those problems!"
I would like to apologize on behalf of my country and all french gamers for the guy who presents it.
Pro tip: he's not really French; no need to apologize. If you still can't get his 'orrible accent out of your head, just imagine he's Belgian.
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Hi all,
Just watched the D&D4 trailer on Youtube (yes I'm late...). Never have I seen worst a commercial, who not only bashes all previous editions of the game, but makes players look stupid and in dire need of all the great improvements that saint WOTC will provide them.
WOTC: wise and overlordly
Players: stupid, need their god WOTC to provide them with good stuff they are too stupid to have already houseruled.It's lame. It's insulting. And it's not even funny...
Also, as a Frenchman, I would like to apologize on behalf of my country and all french gamers for the guy who presents it. If I could buy him to beat him up, I would. He's so arrogant and his english is so bad that I would have him executed in the minute. Forgive us.
And to finish, I especially enjoyed the statement "Ze gameu will remain zeu sameuu" (heavyweight french accent). Yeah, right. Except you won't be able to use your 3ed books, settings are dramatically altered, no more saves, 30 levels (???), different rolls for weapons and combats, no more gnomes, no more druids, etc etc...
Am I the only thinking this is one of the worst jokes ever made?
Yeah, apparently all gamers are too stupid to know how grapple works, or to look it up in the index. This has become SOP for WotC maketing. Trash the older edition to make people see an apparent "need" for a new edition to fix all of it's problems. Is it just me, or did the guy with the lame French accent remind you of the guy that played Fez on That 70's Show? If it is him, it might make it a bit easier to track him down and give him his much deserved pummeling. Of course, if he's been reduced to doing cheap advertising for companies on U-Tube, he's probably already being punished enough.
Am I the only thinking this is one of the worst jokes ever made?
Except it is not - a joke. It is condescending and a PR nightmare. It seems as if WotC could not even afford a decent PR management for the new edition - you don´t advertise a new game that is to be commercially successful by making a home video of some folks telling in-jokes.
Stefan
Am I the only thinking this is one of the worst jokes ever made?Except it is not - a joke. It is condescending and a PR nightmare. It seems as if WotC could not even afford a decent PR management for the new edition - you don´t advertise a new game that is to be commercially successful by making a home video of some folks telling in-jokes.
Stefan
You don't. They did.
I think it was a lack luster attempt at best.
Am I the only thinking this is one of the worst jokes ever made?Except it is not - a joke. It is condescending and a PR nightmare. It seems as if WotC could not even afford a decent PR management for the new edition - you don´t advertise a new game that is to be commercially successful by making a home video of some folks telling in-jokes.
Stefan
Talking about commercial success, I don't really see it happening. Reason : well, they are running after too many customers at the same time, the online gamers and the traditional roleplayers. Problem is that when you go after too many preys, you seldom have a good hunt. Online gamers will think it's not MMORPG enough (supposing they even cared about D&D in the first place), and we roleplayers already think it's a system for teenagers/newbies that doesn't have that D&D feel.
So I can see a less than succesfull run for D&D4...
I would like to apologize on behalf of my country and all french gamers for the guy who presents it.Pro tip: he's not really French; no need to apologize. If you still can't get his 'orrible accent out of your head, just imagine he's Belgian.
Or perhaps Michelle from ze resistance
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WOTC: wise and overlordly
Players: stupid, need their god WOTC to provide them with good stuff they are too stupid to have already houseruled.
Well, they've had this attitude for a while - a game store clerk once told me he'd heard one of the primary reasons for 3.5 was that under 3.0 as written, you couldn't set a piece of wood on fire.
Rather than trusting DMs to house-rule this, they went and put out a whole new edition just to fix this and a few other "problems"...
Are you serious? 1) What in the 3.0 rules implied you couldn't set wood on fire? 2) Why do you need rules for basic reality like the combustability of wood or gravity?
Are you serious? 1) What in the 3.0 rules implied you couldn't set wood on fire? 2) Why do you need rules for basic reality like the combustability of wood or gravity?
Some people need rules for everything. Ever play Shadowrun? Ever seen the ridiculous modifier tables? The guys at WotC are Lawful Neutral, and they're walking in Shadowrun's footsteps.
Free your mind! Go Chaotic! Kick a gnome in the chin!
I dont have the books in front of me but here is my guess:
The catching fire rules state that in order to catch fire you need to take damage from the fire first. If you dont take any damage you dont have to worry about catching on fire.
Wood has a hardness. Fire doesnt cause enough damage to get past woods hardness.
If the fire isnt causing damage then the wood cant catch fire.
Once again thats my GUESS as to how it works out.
In reality of course any DM who really rolls fire damage and calculates the hardness of firewood when the party tries to set up camp needs a good slap. :)
I heard the fire thing being that a fire elemental couldn't set anything on fire (or, really, kill anything) because they did non-lethal damage.
I dont have the books in front of me but here is my guess:
The catching fire rules state that in order to catch fire you need to take damage from the fire first. If you dont take any damage you dont have to worry about catching on fire.
Wood has a hardness. Fire doesnt cause enough damage to get past woods hardness.
If the fire isnt causing damage then the wood cant catch fire.
Once again thats my GUESS as to how it works out.
In reality of course any DM who really rolls fire damage and calculates the hardness of firewood when the party tries to set up camp needs a good slap. :)
Heh. The last sentence is surely right. :-)
But wood (talking about logs here, not matches) does not burn that easily - try and light a log with a normal lighter. Chances are, the lighter will be empty and the log still unburnt. So, giving wood damage resistance even against fire is not totally unreasonable - you need some tricks to make logs of wood catch fire (circumventing the hardness, to speak in game terms). I admit that the rule above is somewhat strange, but if you have a closer look at it, is not totally off. I would not use it for a campfire, of course (that is what the survival skill is for), but it can play a role in sieges or naval battles.
Stefan
Yes, but the rules have hundreds of loopholes that get common-sensed away faster than you can say "house rule".
For example:
1) the rules don't require sleep for non-spellcasters. You're fatigued if you sleep in armor--the answer is, my fighter friend, don't ever sleep!
2) Buy a 10 foot ladder. Saw out the rungs, and proceed to sell your remaining 10 foot poles. Even selling them at half-cost, you make money. Repeat until you have as much money as you want.
3) Similarly, get a pile of quarterstaffs, which are free. Sell them as firewood for profit. Repeat until you have as much money as you want.
4) Per the crafting rules, you can make a quarterstaff (cost 0) instantly. So in passing by a grove of trees, you can transform it all into quarterstaffs (quarterstaves?). Then see #3.
Build a chalk baloon! Chalk has no weight assigned to it, Now take a big bag of chalk, which weighs less than the same volume of air it occupies. Voila! You can fly :-)
I would like to apologize on behalf of my country and all french gamers for the guy who presents it.Pro tip: he's not really French; no need to apologize. If you still can't get his 'orrible accent out of your head, just imagine he's Belgian.
Or perhaps Michelle from ze resistance
True on Michelle and ze resistance, but I bet people would like the 4e video more if it was an all female resistance.