Whilst I am very excited about Pathfinder I cannot help but be a little selfish and wonder what will NOW happen to our 'accepted' submissions.
I have had two bandied around for about 2 years+. These were lost, resent, one accepted, lost again (as editors changed seats), resent, the one that was accepted then rejected but interest in the 'other' one. Sent that one, accepted. That was WELL over a year ago.
Had confirmation as recently as late last year my monk fighting styles are still 'in'. Where do they go now? (By the wayside like the 'barbarian totems'?)
Sorry to sound put-offish, but I am. I am not a regular author, but devote ANY spare time I can to writing many dnd items. It was very exiting to tell fiends 2 years ago that I had articles accepted in Dragon. Not bad to see some of what developed in our games in rural Victoria, Australia, see print and I was pretty chuffed too.
But NOW what happens? I REALLy would like some answer on this. It is not a good feeling have things rejected (after being accepted), due to personnel change.
Also, where do contributors send their ideas now? I have a massive realm creation and development article that I am sure would be valued by many GMs, but it probably would need to be done in parts.
I know it states in FAQS this will be addressed, but how soon? Has it been addressed? All info on Pathfinder world is very interesting but what about those of us who have scant chance to contribute to something big and have put our hearts into doing those articles? This should be one of the first things sorted by the splitting of the partnership...admittedly WotC especially, but I find these boards more informative ;)
Whilst I am very excited about Pathfinder I cannot help but be a little selfish and wonder what will NOW happen to our 'accepted' submissions.
I have had two bandied around for about 2 years+. These were lost, resent, one accepted, lost again (as editors changed seats), resent, the one that was accepted then rejected but interest in the 'other' one. Sent that one, accepted. That was WELL over a year ago.
Had confirmation as recently as late last year my monk fighting styles are still 'in'. Where do they go now? (By the wayside like the 'barbarian totems'?)
Sorry to sound put-offish, but I am. I am not a regular author, but devote ANY spare time I can to writing many dnd items. It was very exiting to tell fiends 2 years ago that I had articles accepted in Dragon. Not bad to see some of what developed in our games in rural Victoria, Australia, see print and I was pretty chuffed too.
But NOW what happens? I REALLy would like some answer on this. It is not a good feeling have things rejected (after being accepted), due to personnel change.
Also, where do contributors send their ideas now? I have a massive realm creation and development article that I am sure would be valued by many GMs, but it probably would need to be done in parts.
I know it states in FAQS this will be addressed, but how soon? Has it been addressed? All info on Pathfinder world is very interesting but what about those of us who have scant chance to contribute to something big and have put our hearts into doing those articles? This should be one of the first things sorted by the splitting of the partnership...admittedly WotC especially, but I find these boards more informative ;)
It hasn't been addressed yet. But we are trying to wait patiently.
I know how you feel. I have a critical threat and an adventure query both in the black hole (both use proprietary material and can't be pitched elsewhere). I also have an accepted article in Dragon (an ecology) that most likely will not see print before the end of the run. It makes me sad, and I haven't completely given up hope, but I have to expect that it won't make it in.
It has been posted elsewhere that there will be a transfer of submitted items to Wizards of the Coast at some point. I can only assume, given that contracts haven't been signed for most of that material, that wizards would be in contact with the authors if they are interested in the previously accepted material.
What that means for folks like us is that a new person, who may have radically different views of what's important, will be looking over these submissions and deciding whether they fit whatever purpose Wizards wishes them to serve. If they do, we'll be contacted about a contract. If they don't, our submissions will die a sad and lonely death filled with sadness over their once hopeful futures.
Of course this is partly conjecture, but given the information that we've been given, it's about the best we can do. The exact fate of the submissions piles haven't really been divulged yet, nor have the chances of accepted material being retained. We're just going to have to wait. Believe me, I know how hard that is.
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But NOW what happens? I REALLy would like some answer on this.
We're still waiting on an answer to this, but as soon as we get one we'll pass it along.
Also, where do contributors send their ideas now?
We don't know yet. I can't at all speak for Wizards of the Coast (in fact, nobody at Paizo can) although I do suspect when the time is right they'll have a set of submission guidelines and an email address. I can't imagine any other way of doing it, but I've been wrong before. ;)
I know it states in FAQS this will be addressed, but how soon?
If we knew that we'd tell you.
Has it been addressed?
Not beyond what the FAQ says, no.
This should be one of the first things sorted by the splitting of the partnership...admittedly WotC especially, but I find these boards more informative ;)
In all fairness to Wizards of the Coast, most of the people who could probably make these decisions were at the GAMA trade show all last week. Does that mean we'll get an answer in the coming week? I don't know.
We know you and other contributors are probably frustrated right now. As soon as we have answers to provide we will provide them.
Thanks Mike :)
I will be desperately waiting ;)
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But NOW what happens? I REALLy would like some answer on this.
We're still waiting on an answer to this, but as soon as we get one we'll pass it along.
I understand what Connors is going through, I have been submitting querries for nigh on two years now, I've lost track of how many.
I finally got my first one published (Cannon Golem) in the May issue; And a second one scheduled for the July issue (but no final word as to if it is actually going to make it).
I've got at least half-a-dozen pending that I submitted that have neither been accepted or rejected, and I don't know if I will need to resubmit them, or if they will automatically be considered for Pathfinder. (This isn't a question, as I know that Paizo will address that issue as soon as they themseleves figure it out.)
Though I am disappointed in the decision to end Dragon & Dungeon magazines, I find myself looking forward to the prospect of working with the new Pathfinder publishing team.
I've got a dozen new ides and am chomping at the bit to submit them.
As far as WotC is concerned, from what I have been able to find out, they will not be accepting unsolicited ideas, trusting their own R&D team. It is possible that this may change, but I presonally doubt it. This means that, for freelance writers, Pathfinder is the best option.
Anyway, I am sure many are looking forward to the submission guidelines, and Paizo can expect to be innundated with ideas as soon as these are released.
- JF (Midrealm DM)
I have looked over at the Wizards boards and cannot even find discussion on the cesation of Dragon and Dungeon, let alone where to go or if you can still make article submissions (other than just posting on boards I guess).
Can anyone help me with this...please? :)
I have looked over at the Wizards boards and cannot even find discussion on the cesation of Dragon and Dungeon, let alone where to go or if you can still make article submissions (other than just posting on boards I guess).
Can anyone help me with this...please? :)
Merric at EN World compiled some replies from the WotC boards here.
Basically it's a "we're working on it", but it appears that they will be asking Paizo for the current stack of submissions sometime soon, and they will also eventually be opening up submissions for all of the usual Dragon and Dungeon materials.
However, it appears that, like Paizo, people at WotC are up to their eyeballs in the transition and work on their new projects, and of course all while we are entering Con season. So it looks like we just need to be patient with the WotC end of the submissions as well.
Basically it's a "we're working on it", but it appears that they will be asking Paizo for the current stack of submissions sometime soon, and they will also eventually be opening up submissions for all of the usual Dragon and Dungeon materials.
What? I definately do not be want them to take the ideas that I submitted to Paizo! While it would be nice to see them 'officially' published; WotC has shown, in my opinion, no loyalty to their customer base as far as Dungeon and Dragon magazines. Certainly they do not seem to be taking into consideration all the fans who have requested that the magazines be allowed to continue.
I would prefer that any materials I submited to Paizo stay with Paizo. If I want to submit them to WotC I can choose to do so.Just one man's opinion.
What? I definately do not be want them to take the ideas that I submitted to Paizo! While it would be nice to see them 'officially' published; WotC has shown, in my opinion, no loyalty to their customer base as far as Dungeon and Dragon magazines. Certainly they do not seem to be taking into consideration all the fans who have requested that the magazines be allowed to continue.
I would prefer that any materials I submited to Paizo stay with Paizo. If I want to submit them to WotC I can choose to do so.Just one man's opinion.
Until you've signed a contract the submission belongs to you. You could always withdraw it and resubmit it to Paizo later once their guidelines are announced.
- Ashavan
Basically it's a "we're working on it", but it appears that they will be asking Paizo for the current stack of submissions sometime soon, and they will also eventually be opening up submissions for all of the usual Dragon and Dungeon materials.
What? I definately do not be want them to take the ideas that I submitted to Paizo! While it would be nice to see them 'officially' published; WotC has shown, in my opinion, no loyalty to their customer base as far as Dungeon and Dragon magazines. Certainly they do not seem to be taking into consideration all the fans who have requested that the magazines be allowed to continue.
I would prefer that any materials I submited to Paizo stay with Paizo. If I want to submit them to WotC I can choose to do so.Just one man's opinion.
I wouldn't worry about it too much, you have the final say in whether they publish anything that you sent to Paizo that is still in query or submission form, because they would have to send you a contract for it, and you could just tell them no at that time. (of course if you already signed a contract for it with Paizo, you are out of luck, because that contract gives WotC all rights to that articles content).
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Until you've signed a contract the submission belongs to you. You could always withdraw it and resubmit it to Paizo later once their guidelines are announced.
This is a good point. If you don't want us to forward something to Wizards of the Coast you need to let us know right quick. Send us an email stating as much and we'll go ahead and delete your query/submission.
This is a good point. If you don't want us to forward something to Wizards of the Coast you need to let us know right quick. Send us an email stating as much and we'll go ahead and delete your query/submission.
Well - I would like what I have already submitted to be considered for Paizo's Pathfinder. But the way it sounds, all previously submitted ideas will be turned over to WotC instead.
Now here is the question:
Assume I turned in a submission to Paizo, this is then turned over to WotC. When the Pathfinder submissions come up, I then resubmit it to Pathfinder. So now both WotC and Paizo have the same submission.
What would happen then if one (or both) responded that they were interested in publishing? There would be legal problems preventing both companies from publishing the same submission, is that correct?
Thanks, in advance.
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Well - I would like what I have already submitted to be considered for Paizo's Pathfinder. But the way it sounds, all previously submitted ideas will be turned over to WotC instead.
Now here is the question:
Assume I turned in a submission to Paizo, this is then turned over to WotC. When the Pathfinder submissions come up, I then resubmit it to Pathfinder. So now both WotC and Paizo have the same submission.
What would happen then if one (or both) responded that they were interested in publishing? There would be legal problems preventing both companies from publishing the same submission, is that correct?
That is a bad plan. It's called simultaneous submission and publishing companies hate it for just the reason you gave.
Also, keep in mind most submissions made to us for Dragon have Wizards of the Coast IP embedded in them, so only Wizards of the Coast can possibly print them.
If your submission is sufficiently free of Wizards of the Coast IP and you want to submit it to us for one of our products, you need to email the editor you queried and ask him to remove your submissions from consideration. We will not consider something you also submitted (or allowed us to submit) to Wizards of the Coast.
I just wanted to remind people that, as of the current plan, Pathfinder will NOT be accepting unsolicted adventure queries. Pathfinder is not Dungeon. While we have several ideas for how fans and new writers will be able to contribute, it doesn't look like adventures will be one of them.
More details about the submission process are coming soon, I swear...
That is a bad plan. It's called simultaneous submission and publishing companies hate it for just the reason you gave.
Sim. sub is a funny thing. Among fiction writers, particularly, there's a big debate over whether it's worth it to submit to several places at once and risk angering editors, or whether it's better to take the slow-but-steady route of querying one place at a time. (Some editors, of course, allow simultaneous subs. outright, but the default setting is no.) I used to go by the scattershot, what-are-the-odds-two-companies-will-buy-it method because I was impatient, and then one day I had a conversation with a publisher, in which he said:
"Nothing could anger me more than spending all the work to select a story and then find out that it's been accepted elsewhere. If that happened, I would probably blackball that person from ever publishing with us again, and I would encourage every editor I know to do the same. And I know a lot."
...which is about when I decided to start playing by the rules. In gaming, especially, there are very few places you can get published, and many of the folks who run them hang out together. Running the risk of angering one of them is career suicide.
Which is, of course, a long way of saying, "Mike's right - that's a bad plan."
-James
If your submission is sufficiently free of Wizards of the Coast IP and you want to submit it to us for one of our products, you need to email the editor you queried and ask him to remove your submissions from consideration. We will not consider something you also submitted (or allowed us to submit) to Wizards of the Coast.
Alright then...
A few more questions:First
Mr McArtor states. 'We will not consider something...submitted... to Wizards of the Coast.'
What if a querry was submitted to WotC but was then rejected?
I assume it would then be safe to submit to Paizo (and likewise safe to submit to WotC querries that Paizo has already rejected.)
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Assuming I did decide to have any querries that I have previously submitted to Paizo removed, I submitted them only to a generic e-mail address 'dragon@paizo.com' should I just contact the same e-mail (If I decide to do so) to have the querry deleted?
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If I am understanding right, any previously submitted querries will either be deleted (by request) or forwarded to WotC. Meaning any previously submitted request that one would want considered for Pathfinder should be deleted (immediately by request) and then resubmitted (when the submission guidelines for pathfinder become available). Is that correct?
Sorry to be such a bother, but I just want to get my facts straight, and avoid any possible problems.
Thank you, once more, in advance
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What if a querry was submitted to WotC but was then rejected?
I assume it would then be safe to submit to Paizo (and likewise safe to submit to WotC querries that Paizo has already rejected.)
You can try that, I guess, although I don't think I'd bother. The problem you face is that if you submit something generic enough that it might work for either company, neither is going to want it. Also keep in mind that what Wizards of the Coast might want to see isn't necessarily what we want to see, and vice versa. In fact, I might go so far as to say that it's unlikely our interests are going to overlap significantly.
Assuming I did decide to have any querries that I have previously submitted to Paizo removed, I submitted them only to a generic e-mail address 'dragon@paizo.com' should I just contact the same e-mail (If I decide to do so) to have the querry deleted?
That's right.
If I am understanding right, any previously submitted querries will either be deleted (by request) or forwarded to WotC. Meaning any previously submitted request that one would want considered for Pathfinder should be deleted (immediately by request) and then resubmitted (when the submission guidelines for pathfinder become available). Is that correct?
Yes. But let me emphasize that this is not the best plan. The best plan for any contributor with queries or submissions currently under consideration is to let us forward those on to Wizards of the Coast. I trust their editorial staff and I think you should, too.
You can try that, I guess, although I don't think I'd bother. The problem you face is that if you submit something generic enough that it might work for either company, neither is going to want it. Also keep in mind that what Wizards of the Coast might want to see isn't necessarily what we want to see, and vice versa. In fact, I might go so far as to say that it's unlikely our interests are going to overlap significantly.
Let me pose a hypothetical situation...if your interests aren't going to overlap with WotCs, perhaps something they don't want would be something you want and vice versa. Granted it would obviously be better for the writer to know which of the two would more likely want the article they're submitting in the first place, and then submit to the appropriate place, but the hypothetical still stands.
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Let me pose a hypothetical situation...if your interests aren't going to overlap with WotCs, perhaps something they don't want would be something you want and vice versa. Granted it would obviously be better for the writer to know which of the two would more likely want the article they're submitting in the first place, and then submit to the appropriate place, but the hypothetical still stands.
What you say makes sense, except keep in mind that a lot of things people query to Dragon (and thus, likely to Wizards of the Coast) are things that Paizo can't run under the OGL. So if Wizards of the Coast isn't interested in your epic treatise on mind flayer warlocks, for example, you're out of luck.
Also, keep in mind that we're not creating replacements for the magazines. We're not going to be asking for the same kinds of general articles and whatnot. In fact, at this point we're not 100% sure of what we're going to ask for. ;D
In short, the best thing to do, as you insinuate, is to wait and see. After we forward on everything we have, if Wizards of the Coast rejects your query but it happens to be something we've said we're looking for, then you should feel free to send it to us.
The key, of course, is patience. :)
What you say makes sense, except keep in mind that a lot of things people query to Dragon (and thus, likely to Wizards of the Coast) are things that Paizo can't run under the OGL. So if Wizards of the Coast isn't interested in your epic treatise on mind flayer warlocks, for example, you're out of luck.
That is kind of what I meant. You have to know your audience. I think we're getting at the same thing, just in slightly different ways.
The key, of course, is patience. :)
No I want it now, now, now!!!
Oops sorry, channeling my son. He's not quite 2. :)
But let me emphasize that this is not the best plan. The best plan for any contributor with queries or submissions currently under consideration is to let us forward those on to Wizards of the Coast. I trust their editorial staff and I think you should, too.
I'll trust your opinion of them, but I am still upset about the whole magazine fiasco. But no sense in cutting off one's nose...
I still stand firm that I would rather contribute original ideas to paizo, but I am not so foolish as to deny myself a chance to have something published elsewhere over a personal grudge.
I will wait patiently with my ideas for creatures queing up exponetially.
Thanks again
One more thing -
It just occured to me as I organize my thoughts into querry form, that I am not sure what is allowable by the OGL.
In designing a creature that has spells or spell-like abilities can we mention the spells by name. What about other creatures, if a creature is meant to work with Mind-Flayers or Beholders could that be mentioned, or is that a violation.
I am sure the complete guidelines for OGL are posted somewhere, but was wondering if someone knew where.
Thanks again,
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You can find the SRD here.
Almost everything from the core rulebooks is in the SRD. Proper names are out but the spells that use them are in (so you just leave off the name). As far as our world and the SRD are concerned, mind flayers and beholders (and githyanki, slaad, yuan-ti, umber hulks, and all the other protected monsters) simply do not exist. Do not reference them. Do not try to be coy and talk about floating eyeball monsters or squid-headed people. They do not exist at all.
I want to create a monster that is a floating 4-eyeballed half-amphibian/half-lizard creature with tentacles on its head that lives in the astral plane. :)
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I'll call it Mike McArtor ;)
Almost everything from the core rulebooks is in the SRD. Proper names are out but the spells that use them are in (so you just leave off the name).
I think I've got it, basically only the Player's Handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide, and Monster Manual are Open Game content. And even those have some exceptions to them.
Therefore, one could not menton creatures from other sources (MMII, MMIII, etc ). If a spell such as "Bigby's Clenched Fist" were to be mentioned we should refer to it as "Clenched Fist"
And only spells that are allowed to be mentioned are from the Player's handbook. Creature's or NPCs with feats may only choose from those in the Player's Handbook or Monster Manual, so no creature could have a feat or spell from another source, such as the Book of Vile darkness.
The Playable Races are restricted to those listed in the Player's Handbook (so no races from the Forgotten Realm or Eberron setting), but conceiveably I could include an Aasimar NPC, since the Aasimar is listed in the Monster Manual and provides stats for 'Aasimar as Characters' is that correct?
I understand that at this time Pathfinder is not looking for adventures, but thought I would get all my ducks in a row for any eventuality.
I appreciate the quick responses,
Thanks for your help.
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I'll call it Mike McArtor ;)
"Oh no! It's a Mykmikarter! Run away!"
It would obviously need to be CR 19 and have SQs like "randomly grouchy" and "cyborg" and DR 10/magnet. ;D
I think I've got it, basically only the Player's Handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide, and Monster Manual are Open Game content. And even those have some exceptions to them.
Therefore, one could not menton creatures from other sources (MMII, MMIII, etc ). If a spell such as "Bigby's Clenched Fist" were to be mentioned we should refer to it as "Clenched Fist"
And only spells that are allowed to be mentioned are from the Player's handbook. Creature's or NPCs with feats may only choose from those in the Player's Handbook or Monster Manual, so no creature could have a feat or spell from another source, such as the Book of Vile darkness.The Playable Races are restricted to those listed in the Player's Handbook (so no races from the Forgotten Realm or Eberron setting), but conceiveably I could include an Aasimar NPC, since the Aasimar is listed in the Monster Manual and provides stats for 'Aasimar as Characters' is that correct?
Yeah, that sounds right. :)
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Yeah, I'm waiting for the guidelines to get released. I've got this whole mess of new spells and new character class to submit in the near future. I want to give Paizo the first shot at 'em.
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I think I've got it, basically only the Player's Handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide, and Monster Manual are Open Game content. And even those have some exceptions to them.
Actually, there's also a lot of the Expanded Psionics book available as Open Content, plus much of the Epic Handbook, plus a LOT of material from Unearthed Arcana. So, it's a little more than just the core 3 books.
Plus all the third-party support, of course.
Actually, there's also a lot of the Expanded Psionics book available as Open Content, plus much of the Epic Handbook, plus a LOT of material from Unearthed Arcana. So, it's a little more than just the core 3 books.
Plus all the third-party support, of course.
Ahh totally forgot to look at Psionics, I've never had much to do with Epic level. I personally get bored with it once the players get past level 16.
Ok, so quite a bit of Expanded Psionics is open as well, but I am betting not Complete Psionic.
Thanks Wolfgang
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Actual mechanics can't be copyright though right? So if we make an adventure with a specific faction that has its own PrC tied to it we could give it something like Hexblade's curse or Dervish Dance (obviously with a different name) right?
Copyright or not, the point is that we can't use books that aren't open to us. That includes the vast majority of WotC's books, including the Complete books. They're off limits. But that doesn't mean that we can't draw upon other, open sources to achieve, thematically, similar things. Or that we can't just make up our own new content.
But just changing the name of an ability while keeping its mechanics the same is not allowed if you're selling said product and making money off of it.
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Actual mechanics can't be copyright though right? So if we make an adventure with a specific faction that has its own PrC tied to it we could give it something like Hexblade's curse or Dervish Dance (obviously with a different name) right?Copyright or not, the point is that we can't use books that aren't open to us. That includes the vast majority of WotC's books, including the Complete books. They're off limits. But that doesn't mean that we can't draw upon other, open sources to achieve, thematically, similar things. Or that we can't just make up our own new content.
But just changing the name of an ability while keeping its mechanics the same is not allowed if you're selling said product and making money off of it.
Yup yup ... ah the laws of copyright infringement.
Besides - Pathfinder is all about NEW territory, pushing the edge, doing it like it has never been done before, making old new again, etc. etc.
Let WotC have their monsters and their Complete series - I can't wait to see what new stuff Paizo can come up with.
We're officially "outside the box" now, and I couldn't be happier.
Since WotC has started accepting submissions I was hoping there would be something here. I assume no one has heard/posted anything.
But I thought I would still add a post here to move this back to the top of the board. >;p
Any news would be appreciated, I'll even accept a guestimation of when the guidelines miught be ready (ie late August maybe?, Early December perhaps? - hopefully not that long.)
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Since WotC has started accepting submissions I was hoping there would be something here. I assume no one has heard/posted anything.
But I thought I would still add a post here to move this back to the top of the board. >;p
Any news would be appreciated, I'll even accept a guestimation of when the guidelines miught be ready (ie late August maybe?, Early December perhaps? - hopefully not that long.)
As we've said before, multiple times, it's unlikely before Gen Con.
New to this forum/messageboard, but I've been looking thru this one and thought I could help.
I too am interested in the change Paizo has made to Pathfinder, and am eagerly waiting for submission guidelines.
But I believe I can answer a few questions that have been posted here.
WOTC has released submission guidelines for Dungeon/Dragon submissions, check out their DND homepage and look at the news section....
I would recommend to any freelancer that they become intimately familiar with both the SRD, and Open and Closed game content for any third party distributer before you decide it is OGL. Dont get in trouble using something that's not yours. Most likely ANYONE you submit such content to will just reject it, and possibly reject you as well. But in the event something that is CGC gets thru into a piece and is actually published, YOU can be held legally responsible for the copywright infringement. Not to mention your freelance carreer and reputation could be permanantly damaged beyond repair.
Do some research, do some homework, when in doubt, make up your own stuff, dont use someone elses. Stick to the SRD is the best advice if you're unsure. Good luck all.
WOTC has released submission guidelines for Dungeon/Dragon submissions, check out their DND homepage and look at the news section....
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I would recommend to any freelancer that they become intimately familiar with both the SRD, and Open and Closed game content for any third party distributer before you decide it is OGL.
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Do some research, do some homework, when in doubt, make up your own stuff, dont use someone elses. Stick to the SRD is the best advice if you're unsure. Good luck all.
Well said,
I've actiually submitted several querries to WotC but their habit of not responding is irritating. Officially they say if you don't hear anything by x amount of time, assume the piece is rejected.Ok, but Assume I wait for x time + 1 day and submit it to someone else, and then a few days later WotC contacts me to say they like the idea. Well now I am in a quandry and risk being blackballed because I have submitted the same idea to two different publishing companies.
I don't see why they can't simply e-mail back when they read it to say 'rejected' after all, they are the proponents of the electronic format age. How hard is it to click 'reply' paste a generic 'no thank you' message and click 'send'
I am left playing guesswork as to if they have actually had time to review the materials or if they are backlogged. Did it even get reviewed? What if it were accidentally deleted? It feels much like Schrodinger's cat, the submission which may or may not be at the WotC offices, may or may not be rejected. Unfortunately I have no way to look in the metaphorical box to check.
With Paizo, while they often were delayed, they would alwyas let you know one way or the other.
I went into a bit of a tangent there, but anyway I have a ton of ideas queing up for Pathfinder. Hope to see some guidelines soon. (Don't make me beg, I'll do it!)
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I don't see why they can't simply e-mail back when they read it to say 'rejected' after all, they are the proponents of the electronic format age. How hard is it to click 'reply' paste a generic 'no thank you' message and click 'send'...
Yes, its more than slightly ironic given that the DI is supposed to increase how response and reactive they are to the customers... except, you know, we can't be bothered to send out emails to the people we are actively soliciting queries from. But don't worry, moving things online will make it much more responsive, online is better! I just can't be bothered to waste your time and mine to tell you why ;-)
I don't see why they can't simply e-mail back when they read it to say 'rejected' after all, they are the proponents of the electronic format age. How hard is it to click 'reply' paste a generic 'no thank you' message and click 'send'
long answer:
Clearly the corporate environment there places no importance on the people they sell to or work with.Not to say WotC doesn't have good, hardworking, considerate employees -- but the organization's values (rather than those of individual people) are going to dominate how it treats others.
I can't help but think back to LG and RPGA. LG triads were (on and off) easy to deal with and concerned about the welfare of players. In contrast, RPGA (and a certain individual, in particular) showed little to no concern for the concerns and needs of members.
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WotC doesn't care enough -- or at all.
long answer:
Clearly the corporate environment there places no importance on the people they sell to or work with.
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Not to say WotC doesn't have good, hardworking, considerate employees --*<snip>*
short answer:
WotC doesn't care enough -- or at all.
Another comment:
I posted this same message at WotC, or at least tried to. I went beck today to see if I had any response, but could not find the original posting. I tried searching for it, using their search feature, nothing.I am not sure if I somehow failed to post it properly, If the message is there, but I just can't find it, or if it has been deleted. I am going to try again, hopefully getting a respons from them this time.
This link should be the message:
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?p=14107772#post14107772