Ok out of weird curiosity lets say we are under a zombie attack…
1. Where are you going to go to hold up and hide out?
2. What weapon would be your weapon of choice?
My Answers:
1. There is a military outlet near by that sells weapons: bladed and firearms, dehydrated food, first aid kits, basically all military surplus with anything a doomsday paranoid person needs. It’s also a big concert building with only a front and back door both metal.
For a more normal location I’m going to say Walgreen’s. You had meds, food, some supplies, the glass is suppose to be bullet proof, and they also are suppose to have a hand gun in the store.
2. Sawed off 12 gauge shot gun with a choke if I have buck shot ammo, but I’d prefer slugs over buck shot. Nothing has the stopping power at short range like a shot gun. Sawed off for quick aiming, choke to keep the spray pattern closer grouped, no choke if I’m using slugs.
Fizz
Crowbar for me, too. Functional, fairly light, decent reach and pretty effective if you know exactly how to swing it. Plus, Goodwill prepared me for using it effectively.
I would probably hit a Wal-Mart, even though I really hate the store. For all the same reasons as you would choose Walgreens. Guns and machetes are readily available, too, so you could get a small army equipped at a Wal-Mart.
Failing that, a house situated on a hill with a steep driveway and preferably a fairly difficult cliff in the backyard. That way, with appropriate barricades in the driveway, one can easily defend one's position. I'm a terrible shot with a gun, though, since I've only fired one once. I would like to think that my Resident Evil and zombie movie experience would give me some sort of edge, but I doubt it.
Off-topic (apologies)-- I actually went to a zombie themed art gallery show on the Lower East Side last weekend. My friend had a piece in the show (and I SHOULD have been invited, with my zombie Reagans, but I'm not cool and on Myspace so I wasn't) and if you wanted to dress as a zombie for the opening, they had a professional make-up artist there doing everyone's face up. At eight or nine o'clock a whole mass of idiots dressed as zombies swarmed and attacked the gallery. Then a really lousy heavy metal band played in cool costumes, "fought" the zombies and stained my shoes with fake blood. Good event, though most of the artwork sucked.
Well, are we talking fast or slow zombies?
First thing I would do is rally all my friends and family together (or whoever lived) into a small army. Failing that (we have plenty of weapons) we would head to a safe place -maybe out in the middle of nowhere (-using country lanes not motorways) to get there. I would try to secure as much food and water as possible and then keep on the move around the highlands of Scotland in a landrover convoy.
As for weapon: crowbar would be very effective, I would also approve of pokers or golf clubs. It's weird, I have done martial arts for some time and have trained with staff, sai, sword etc but crowbar sems like a winner against the walking dead. I would probaly carry the sai anyway just for show/cool. Being British I am unlikely to come across reliable firearms outside of the main UK cities.
Question for you all: Theres a newsflash telling you of (fast) zombie outbreak. What is the first thing you do before everything is complete chaos?
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Actually, if I had to choose a firearm to wield, I'd choose an M-1 Garand semiautomatic rifle. However, while I'm a crack shot with an M-1, I'd need a full clip bag (they're a royal pain in the ass to load).
Are those still around? My dad used those in the Army. For the record, he thought they were terrible...
I second the crowbar. But, as it is always better to fight zombies from a distance, I'd also want a good old FN-FAL. A bit combersome, but it kicks like a mule and is practically indestructible.
I want a flamethrower. Not even for this exercise...just want one.
Oh yeah, I already am a zombie.......droool. "BRAINS!"
I want a flamethrower. Not even for this exercise...just want one.
Oh yeah, I already am a zombie.......droool. "BRAINS!"
Eeek!
throwing knifes and rocket lancher!!!!!!! Theres no where to hide for me!!!!!
I bet a dump truck would absolutely own as an APC! Or any old digger/JCB for that matter! Also –how wonderful would a mini-bus be?!
I hate to be serious but (it’s fun kinda) If there was some weird outbreak of zombie flesh eating I know I for one would be super paranoid and want to ‘take precautions’ before maximum slaughtering.
I would need a bio hazard suit and other gear to do battle with the undead, failing that –a decent gas/paint ball mask and NBC suit. Plus everyone I knew would be asked frequent but subtle ‘did they bite you’ questions. Yes, I am the one that goes mental. :)
Ideally, if my area were being invaded by zombies (fast or slow) my weapon of choice would be a radio used to coordinate the air strikes, and my backup weapon would be a holy water sprinkler.
Failing that I'd settle for holing up in a Home Depot type store with a crowbar, a chainsaw, and as much piano wire as I could steal on the way there.
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Best weapon: 45s. And I'm talkin' about the records, not the guns.
"Wow! She's really drunk!"
One of the best movies ever!!!
Weapons = machete, sledge hammer, Desert Eagle handgun w/laser pointer, SKS Rifle w/scope, crossbow, bowie knife, DAO-12 and enough ammunition for WW III
Places to go = local grocery store, military surplus store, Northern Vermont if large infestation or where ever the zombies are if it’s a small to medium infestation
Vehicles = Jeep and dirt bike
Sledge hammer = Brill!
1. Where are I going to go to hold up and hide out?
I like the idea of a Walgreen's or other similarly supplied, yet small (i.e., defensible) place.
2. What weapon would be your weapon of choice?
If only one weapon, I'd go with a Ruger 10/22 with thousands of rounds of ammunition and multiple banana clips (30+ rounds). Others have stated larger calibre weapons, some with the appelation that "it kicks like a mule". Well, I don't know if any of you have been involved in any shooting situation where you've HAD to fire numerous times in a short period of time with a weapon that kicks hard ... I have. I don't like my shoulder getting sore after a relatively small number of rounds, and seriously bruised after 30 or more! Anticipating the need for firing a lot AND that putting a round through the head is sufficient (I don't need to blow the zombies head completely off), I'll go with a simple .22LR. The lack of appreciable recoil, coupled with the huge amount of ammunition that can be ported, decides the matter for me. ;-)
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Bah - keep your sleek little gun. :P
According to the [i]Zombie Survival Guide{/i] (which, face it, it the authoritative work on this subject), small calibre weapons are useless, as are high rates of fire. The ONLY thing that'll bring a zombie down is massive head trauma - which is how the 7.62 hollowpoint elk round enters the picture... Ammo weight will be an issue, though, and that is why we'll want to hide out at a shopping mall of some sort. Preferably one with a gun store...
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Well, assuming I was in my home when the notice came on the radio...
I would get the family up on the roof with the extension ladder, then pull the ladder up and wait for air evacuation.
If I had a couple of extra minutes, I would grab a hammer and saw to cut a hole into the attic so I could run down the ladder into the attic where I have most of my camping gear and extra clothes, AND down the attic ladder into the garage and grab extra foodstuffs... Cookin' deer steaks and beans on the camp stove on the roof, watching the staggering gimps on the lawn, winging empty jars of baby food at them occasionally.
When in doubt, go vertical...dead guys can't jump.
For a weapon, I would probably go with crowbar as well...good heft, not gonna break on ya, no ammo issues, multi use. A well rounded tool for the jobs needed.
Bah - keep your sleek little gun. :P
According to the [i]Zombie Survival Guide{/i] (which, face it, it the authoritative work on this subject), small calibre weapons are useless, as are high rates of fire. The ONLY thing that'll bring a zombie down is massive head trauma - which is how the 7.62 hollowpoint elk round enters the picture... Ammo weight will be an issue, though, and that is why we'll want to hide out at a shopping mall of some sort. Preferably one with a gun store...
Well … with the Zombie Survival Guide's (a great read, BTW) limitation (limitations which are not necessarily all present in Romero's Night/Dawn/Day/Land of the Dead … the authoritative work I chose on this subject), I'll go with a M1 Carbine. I can pump out far more aimed shots with this rifle with little to no harm to myself and, I can do this for hours. With repeated fire, your 7.62 mm will disable your shoulder (for purposes of aimed fire) within minutes.
I'd go with Fizzban's advice on the armaments, it sounds sensible. I have a .44 Magnum I carry backpacking and it should mess up Zombie brain pretty well, but I've seen enough to know a shotgun can for all intents and purposes render someone decapitated.
In addition, and I've got 20 years practice with this starting in Japan when I was fifteen, I'd have to go for a katana. I had the chance to cut down some small trees with one and I estimate it has pretty good decapitation potential.
Without that, I'd have to go for a baseball bat. As far as weapons go, it's got amazing balance, and a zombie with broken knees ain't going far in any hurry. I'd also carry an axe. Outdoor tools section, home depot.
Of course I'm in China now, and the swords aren't too bad here, either--they are certainly lighter-- although I'm having a little trouble getting used to all the crouching and leaping they like to do in pretty well all of their martial arts with the exception of Tai Qi. But I don't think a Chinese longsword is quite up to the decapitation needs of a zombie hunter, much less a fleeing civilian. Too light. Good for stabbin, bad for zombies.
I doubt I'd hole up in one place, I hate getting cornered, and I wouldn't want to be the guy who finds out that a zombie could drive a truck through a steel door, although I've hear they can't. So I'd want to pick up some pretty hefty wheels, too.
And provided they are immune to whatever zombie disease is getting around, I'd want dogs. German shepherds preferably, they're obedient and kick ass.
Ripley:I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Instead ofthe crowbar, howzabowt One of these rock hammers? I like how there's a 'ladies' available. I guess the difference between a light and heavy mace????
well, the mall seems like a pretty good bet; lots of room, entertainment; food; drugs, clothes, beds, etc.
is this supposed to be a single weapon thing or an outfit and is it limited to small arms; like, if I had an m-1 Abrams tank I don't think a zombie would be able to touch me or have much chance; a few crates of claymore mines would be nice; maybe a small tactical nuke; one of the 1/4 mile blast ones; a m-60 machine gun with grips or the german equivelant would be nice; a flamethrower could come in handy; but I suppose a military version of a 10 gauge shotgun with a cannister mounted ammo cartridge with a .203 grenade launcher slung underneath would be the weapon of choice to carry; as well as a fairly heavy hacking blade around 3ft long and some decent chain mail or poly mesh sustitute. Would need a few extra barrels for the shotgun as I would want to be able to fire some white phosphorus slugs as well as .00 shot. Be nice to be able to mount a .50 or minigun or vulcan cannon on the roof or on a golf cart that you zoomed the mall in, but it would need a bit of reinformment and you would need really good ear protection.
I would expect that new firepower would be introduced though as due to the Geneva Convention; small arms are basically designed intentionally to leave bodies more or less intact and against zombies we would want a bit more obliteration. Be fun to have a .50 sniper rifle just to pop some zombies in the distance.
so; what are the rules for stopping these zombies; obliteration; headshots; dismemberment; this kinda affects weapon choice.
broadsword's good on zombies, but not so good on doors as a crowbar.
My shotgun will open those nasty doors...
Fizz
I'd go to Saerns house and grab that sweet battle axe he won't let me touch anymore.
I'd keep a cool headed convoy moving north from indiana through mainly wooded areas.
The eventual goal is to make it to the nearest freezing temperature zone with as many people intact as possible.
Freezing temperatures+ creatures with no body heat= harmless zombiecicles
broadsword's good on zombies, but not so good on doors as a crowbar.Yeah, but you can't cut off heads with a crowbar.
I'd rather kill them. If you cut off their heads all the time thats only going to leave a load of 'still biting' zombie heads laying around that you (or others) may accidently be chomped (and infected) by later!
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I think Sexi's got the right idea with heading north. Hell, the best option is to hijack a boat and head to Iceland (assuming the 'disease' is not airborne and has spread to the entire world). This way, not only do you have the cold working for you, you've also got vast amounts of ocean impeding the zombie hordes. Moving corpses will only last so long in the ocean. As the salt water dissolves their flesh, they will begin leaking blood (assuming they weren't covered in it already) and will attract sharks. Sharks eat zombies. Problem solved. (And even if this results in zombie-sharks, they won't be a threat on land.) Even if the sharks DON'T get them, the tides and currents would prevent a zombie from ever making landfall effectively and eventually the elements would disintegrate them.
My weapons of choice: A sawed-off 20 gauge shotgun with extended magazine (preferrably nickel-plated to resist weather and loaded with either slugs or double-aught buckshot) and a fire axe. The axe is good for head cleaving (swinging down to split the skull, not sideways to decapitate) and the 20 gauge is more than enough firepower to bust heads without the problem of having too much recoil to be comfortable. Plus, the alloy that those fire axes are made of is not only lightweight but INCREDIBLY resistant to rust and corrosion, meaning it'd last as long as I needed it. I'd probably also pack a .45ACP handgun (one of the Glocks with a 30-round magazine) in case things got desperate.
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All right kids...Daddy's home! Now just sit back and let an expert tell you how to do it:
Weapon - Aluminum baseball bat, which will never run our of ammo.
Clothing - heavy shit, like nomex, that's the big jumpsuits they use in refineries, something to slow down any teeth that get to close. And heavy gloves and boots. A helmet as well.
I'd try to have my place of safety pre-stocked with lots of canned goods, bottle water, candles, and some medical supplies.
And to top it all off, my safe place would be one of the old de-commed navy ships in the basin where I work. Each one has only one way on board, a gangway with a built in gate that goes around the whole thing. Eventually, we'd maybe even be able to make quick forays for mechanical equipment and fuel to get the ship back up and running, then we become a floating city.
In zombie movies (the Romero ones) the disease is (likely) airborne and has already infected every human on earth. It's only when a human body dies that it rises as a zombie. Getting bitten just makes it worse.
In the remake of Dawn of the Dead they changed this to having only those who are bitten rise as zombies. I like the old version better; it seems a lot more sinister and ties into our other human fears of contamination, illness etc.
But then again I am a morbid British gen-X kid who lived in fear of the bomb/AIDS and was allowed to watch movies like Body Snatchers, The Thing, Shivvers, Video Drome and Extro at a very young age. I'm completly screwed up in the head!
I've always said that any Zombie plan that starts with "I go out and get some weapons" isn't much of a plan. That's going to be the same "plan" as all the others who find themselves unprepared. In the first 12 hours the greatest threat will come from other living, breathing people. There's no time like the present to arm oneself against the hordes of the undead.
At a minimum, one should have a firearm and a good melee weapon. I prefer a good, stout mace for crushing zombie skulls. YMMV. A small selection of firearms is best: a shotgun for close quarters battle, an assault rifle for sniping at greater distances (say, up to 200 meters), and a good pistol for those times when you need a free hand. I also prefer a .45...I'm old school like that, I guess.
It is also good to have a place in mind and have an agreement that some reliable friends will try to link up with you there. Personally, I think a shopping mall or grocery store would be a bad choice because they would be very hard to secure--ultimately, they're getting in. What you need is a place that already has provisions and medical supplies, not a lot of people, and some means of shutting out the dead.
The Zombie Survival Guide is a good book, but I don't agree with everything Brooks says. It is a great place to start, though. But the most important thing is to have a plan.
Because there are two types of people: those who have a zombie plan and those who are food.
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All right kids...Daddy's home! Now just sit back and let an expert tell you how to do it:
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And to top it all off, my safe place would be one of the old de-commed navy ships in the basin where I work. Each one has only one way on board, a gangway with a built in gate that goes around the whole thing. Eventually, we'd maybe even be able to make quick forays for mechanical equipment and fuel to get the ship back up and running, then we become a floating city.
After my family gets air-lifted off our roof, we will have the helicopters set us down on your ship. May as well have a plan ready to drop into action...
Aber is tricking all youse guys into holing up into a place that he knows where the secret entrance is...right, AberZOMBIE?!?!?!!?
and then, after you let yer guard down and try to get 40 winks...
CRASH!
drool...BRAINS!
(though, Aber and Primus are correct "Kissed him upside the head with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is mud!" Happiness is a ballbat in that situation.)
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Aber is tricking all youse guys into holing up into a place that he knows where the secret entrance is...right, AberZOMBIE?!?!?!!?
and then, after you let yer guard down and try to get 40 winks...
CRASH!
drool...BRAINS!
(though, Aber and Primus are correct "Kissed him upside the head with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is mud!" Happiness is a ballbat in that situation.)
Cranium. CRANIUM! Can't you people EVER get that song right?
First, I find some sort of blunt object (ideally, a crow bar though a bat would work.) and then I hop on my bike, as in bicycle. Then, I ride to my friend Alex's house, which is stocked with all sorts of fun toys. His dad is a General in the National Gaurd, and assuming he's not dead, he'll help us out. Hopefully, his mom will be a zombie or something, becuase she is completely useless. We stock up on guns and ammo, then hit up a local hunting supply store for more stuff. By then, my essential people will have met in our predesignated meeting place. Me, Joe, and Steve will then hot wired several trucks and dirt bikes. We load up with food and fuel and begin our journey south.
That's right. South.
We drive to Costa Rica and build a city in the trees.
Have any of you read "World War Z"? The only people who get through the zombie apocalypse completely unscathed are the natives in South America. The build villages in the trees and live in the canopy of the forest. The zombies can't get to them. The people have food, water, and shelter. It's perfect.
Plus, it's just a lot easier for a human to survive in a warm climate than in a cold. So many more calories are burned trying to keep warm, so you run out of food faster. Most people who aren't from polar climates don't know how to dress to keep warm. And the zombies would only be stopped part of the year. When the weather warms up again, the zombies are back. In the jungle, the rate of decompostion is exponentially higher, so the dead flesh would turn to sludge that much faster.
I've been planning this for a while.
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I head into my basement. Warhammer, battleaxe, 5 swords of varying styles, sais, nunchukas, mace, 2 3-balled flails, my bolt action 410 shotgun, my breakaway over/under 22cal/20guage, staves, daggers, all my carpentry hand tools (hammers, sledges, wrenches, etc), my chainshirt, and matching bracers (I made them). Gather it all up and head towards Aberzombie's decommed ship in Philly to start building the army to fight back against this nightmare. Good luck, zombies. They'll need it. Better hope I start out on the undead team.
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Pfft...
I case of Zombie attack, I'll on the front lines... AS A ZOMBIE. That's right. I'm totally joining the other side.
Then, with enough hard work and fresh, tasty brains, I'll work my way up to becoming an undead sergeant, then lieutenant, then major, then General until I finally reach the pinnacle...
BRAIN-EATIN' ZOMBIE MASTER!!!
With my horde of undead and their insatiable hunger, we will swarm the last vestiges of free humanity until the the whole world drowns in the gaping maw of decaying voracity.
We will keep coming back in a bloodthirsty lust for HUMAN FLESH!
Then, after the Zombipocalypse has come and gone and all the remaining living are safely packed away as chattel, I and my zombie compatriots will while away our remaining aeons just kickin' back and playing RPGs.
'Cause that would rule.
I'll take my unholy symbol of Nerull and rebuke those brain eatin bastards. Eventually I can control this unholy mob of undead brain eaters and take over the world
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That's so cool, Heathy! I've always wanted to be a zombie in a movie. It seemed like a lot of fun.
That's so cool, Heathy! I've always wanted to be a zombie in a movie. It seemed like a lot of fun.
Some friends and I are going to have a go this summer! :)
In the meantime: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIWsMKZt3Eg