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My number one beef with shows about people with powers (or ubertechnology, or whatever) is when the characters *forget* to use those powers (or tech) for the sake of plot contrivance. It's hard to root for Peter or Hiro when the dramatic needs of the plot requires them to never make an intelligent decision.
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I agree, particularly where you have characters that are as ridiculously powerful as Peter and Sylar. Along with his other powers, the fact that Sylar has perfect recall from killing that waitress should make him nigh-unstoppable, but it never comes up.
I also agree with pretty much everything you said about what they should have done with Sylar.
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I agree, particularly where you have characters that are as ridiculously powerful as Peter and Sylar. Along with his other powers, the fact that Sylar has perfect recall from killing that waitress should make him nigh-unstoppable, but it never comes up.
He didn't get her power, she died of the brain tumor or whatever before he got her, thanks to Hiro's time-manipulation. He also failed to get Eve McCains voice-activated mind control, since she blew her brains out before he got to study them.
He did however get;
Ted Sprangs nuclear powers
random dudes power to melt solid objects into silvery goo
random womans super-hearing, including to tell if people were lying based on their heartrates
Telekinesis
unknown persons ability to freeze people solid and generate intense cold
Painter-dudes paint-the-future power
*If* he still has these powers, the game of cat and mouse with Claire was just him being a sadist, since he could hear her heartbeat from across the house, let alone her breathing.
Sylar has also just added;
transmution from Bob Bishop
regeneration/immortality from Claire Bennet
Peter should be able to use;
telekinesis
time control and teleportation
phase through solid matter
flight
precognitive dreams (from both his mom *and* Mr. Deveraux)
paint-the-future
super-strength
lightning blasts
invisibility
regeneration / immortality (two seperate doses of that one, too!)
telepathy
nuclear blasts
FuturePeter adds some sort of personal illusion power to that, whatever he did to Peter to make his body dissapear and his mind appear in someone's head 2500 miles away, and vastly improved control of the time travel / teleportation powers.
So basically, Peter's turning into the Composite Superman, with the powers of various members of the Legion of Super-Heroes!
Ted Sprang - Wildfire
Elle Bishop - Lightning Lad
Matt Parkman - Saturn Girl
Angela Petrella / Mr. Deveraux - Dream Girl
'Claude' - Invisible Kid
DL Hawkins - Phantom Girl
'Form of... a plot device! Shape of... someone that has to be incapacitated to be usable in the story!'
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Thats' why i figured Detroit Steel would be a better 'fit' for Heroes than Forge. Detroit Steel (from Wild Cards) is the power armor suit, but it only works for his creator, as it's the Ace's power that 'drives' the suit.
Forge, or Madison Jefferies, (gah, or both) would seem to really overpower the Heroes mythos, more so than even Peter.
"Time Manipulation!"
"Yawn, Chronoton stabalizer, built it while watching Home Improvement."
"Energy Beam!"
"power diffusing beam. Sonic Blaster!"
"Ack I've super hearing! Fortunately I've regeneration."
"Molecular discorporation beam."
"Um, does a 21 save?"
"No."
*poof*
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A really funny dialogue.
Hehe. I can totally picture forge running rampent over all the heroes. heh. personally, I think they need to take a page from Morrisson's X-Men in terms of the powers. why does everyone get a useful or visually cool power? what happens to the people who just grow a third arm? or turn into a chicken boy? or turns into living glass? we need some really uncool or not useful powers to show up.
and b) it shows how deadly Syler (and future Peter) are. It would take apparently some high level of bodily destruction to kill them.
Yep, on the order of dropping the One Ring into the lava...
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He didn't get her power, she died of the brain tumor or whatever before he got her, thanks to Hiro's time-manipulation. He also failed to get Eve McCains voice-activated mind control, since she blew her brains out before he got to study them.
Ah, I had forgotten about that, though I did remember Eden killing herself to escape him.
Also, if they're still using Claire's limitations from Season 1, even though Claire, Sylar, and Peter are immortal, you can still incapacitate them indefinitely by jamming something into their brains. Claire was "killed" when something went through her head, and only woke up when they took it out.
So even though Sylar is more powerful than Adam and could escape if you imprisoned him in a coffin, you could stick something into his head and then bury him, and he wouldn't come back unless someone dug him up and freed him intentionally.
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So even though Sylar is more powerful than Adam and could escape if you imprisoned him in a coffin, you could stick something into his head and then bury him, and he wouldn't come back unless someone dug him up and freed him intentionally.
Oooh, Heroes style vampries anyone.
"No, I don't drink blood, but some idiot stuck a stake in my chest... what year is it again?"
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Ah, I had forgotten about that, though I did remember Eden killing herself to escape him.
He didn't get her power, she died of the brain tumor or whatever before he got her, thanks to Hiro's time-manipulation.
No big. I'll bet 200 quatloo that the *writers* don't remember what powers Sylar does and doesn't have, since they certainly seem to have forgotten some of Peters (and given Sylar powers he shouldn't have, like the ability to get from New York to Odessa in a flash!).
And yeah, the easiest way to take out Sylar, Peter, Claire, Adam, etc. does seem to be the 'stake through the head, and then bury 'em' approach. Let's see Sylar come back from having Brainus Interruptus (spike through the head) followed by being weighted down and tossed overboard in the middle of the Atlantic!
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*If* he still has these powers, the game of cat and mouse with Claire was just him being a sadist, since he could hear her heartbeat from across the house, let alone her breathing.
Well, we know he still has the telekinesis. And the cat and mouse game was definitely fun for him. Even without the telekinesis, those slatted closet doors wouldn't stop anyone; I accidentally put my foot through one when I was 12, playing at a friend's house.
Speaking of Claire, since future Peter has her power, why does he have that scar on his face? =/
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Speaking of Claire, since future Peter has her power, why does he have that scar on his face? =/
[mytheory] Hiro's sword was crafted by someone with powers, specifically the power to make items with powers, and, in this case, used to craft a sword that can kill (or permanantly maim / scar) even Claire / Adam type regenerators. [/mytheory]
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[mytheory] Hiro's sword was crafted by someone with powers, specifically the power to make items with powers, and, in this case, used to craft a sword that can kill (or permanantly maim / scar) even Claire / Adam type regenerators. [/mytheory]
I'm a little spotty on the specifics of season 1, but
My number one beef with shows about people with powers (or ubertechnology, or whatever) is when the characters *forget* to use those powers (or tech) for the sake of plot contrivance. It's hard to root for Peter or Hiro when the dramatic needs of the plot requires them to never make an intelligent decision.
Agreed...like the opening of the show when we see Peter running through the streets. Why run when you can fly and get there that much faster?
Isn't the sword made from metal that fell from space? Or am I thinking of every other sword from sci-fi/fantasy? :)
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(and given Sylar powers he shouldn't have, like the ability to get from New York to Odessa in a flash!).
I'd have to go back and take another look at the Season Two finale, but is there anything that requires that sequence to be so close together? Odessa (are they even in Odessa, anyway?) is only a few hours away by plane...
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Back at the start of season one papa Suresh's map and later his computer list over half a dozen people who are might have powers but are dead. Parkman’s' first season plot thread had him tracking down a serial killer (Sylar) that has killed over a dozen people. It is very conceivable that Sylar can have powers other than what has been shown. The same bad writing that makes Peter not use his powers also applies to Sylar
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[mytheory] Hiro's sword was crafted by someone with powers, specifically the power to make items with powers, and, in this case, used to craft a sword that can kill (or permanantly maim / scar) even Claire / Adam type regenerators. [/mytheory]I'm a little spotty on the specifics of season 1, but
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Well we've not seen a power negator yet. Maybe from that timeline future Syler gained that power?
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Well we've not seen a power negator yet. Maybe from that timeline future Syler gained that power?[mytheory] Hiro's sword was crafted by someone with powers, specifically the power to make items with powers, and, in this case, used to craft a sword that can kill (or permanantly maim / scar) even Claire / Adam type regenerators. [/mytheory]I'm a little spotty on the specifics of season 1, but
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Power negation is one on the powers of the Haitian.
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So, did anyone else recognize the guy playing Dr. Zimmerman (the one Tracy visits)? I'll give you a hint:
"Whoever did this knew how to cripple the Caterpillar in a way that was not easy to find."
Overall, last nights episode was...interesting.
And does anyone, for one second, think that Momma Petrelli isn't lying through her teeth to Sylar about his origins. She is one evil, manipulative b&!%@...I like her.
As for the Hiro - once again, I find myself becoming annoyed by his characterization. Just when I think that they'll allow the character to do some growing up, they throw him right back into fanboy land. It gets annoying. I'm not liking Daphne either - she bugs the crap out of me for some reason. Ah well, maybe I'm just cranky.
Does anyone think that the formula Hiro and Ando are chasing might be the one that Mohinder is working on, and that at some point his written version finds its way into the past? Just a theory.
Either way, I continue to enjoy the show.
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Overall, last nights episode was...interesting.** spoiler omitted **
Either way, I continue to enjoy the show.
I have to say that I dislike the idea that Sylar kills people because of a built-in hunger. It limits his responsibility for his own actions, for one thing. For another, I liked the idea that he collected powers due to his own insecurity and his need to feel strong.
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So, did anyone else recognize the guy playing Dr. Zimmerman (the one Tracy visits)? I'll give you a hint:
"Whoever did this knew how to cripple the Caterpillar in a way that was not easy to find."
Overall, last nights episode was...interesting.
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Either way, I continue to enjoy the show.
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So, did anyone else recognize the guy playing Dr. Zimmerman (the one Tracy visits)? I'll give you a hint:
"Whoever did this knew how to cripple the Caterpillar in a way that was not easy to find."
Overall, last nights episode was...interesting.
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Either way, I continue to enjoy the show.
WRT: Hiro...
She runs fast. HIRO MOVES THROUGH TIME.
Logically their first interaction would have played out like this:
Hiro: A ha! I have formula!
(Formula disappears in a red blur)
Hiro: Crap! I need to stop time and find out what happened.
(Stops Time... follows red streak... finds girl)
They interact. She pops him and runs away...
Or she would have gotten away if Hiro, when he comes to after being hit, hadn't have just went back in time and opened a file drawer in front of her retreating form at about... let's say... head height.
*BANG*
Hiro takes the formula back.
It's another example of the characters conveniently forgetting the logical use of their own powers so as to artificially create conflict and plot. This one of my biggest complaints about the show, but it's understandable, and I realize that accepting this is the price of admission for the show. It still bugs me sometimes.
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a bunch of stuff just now
[very angry rant]
a bunch of stuff just now[very angry rant]** spoiler omitted **[/very angry rant]
No doubt. Combine the Speedster Blonde with all the time travel paradox-ing going on, and I'm starting to get doubly dizzy. The blonde is a total distraction, and so many heroes are being discovered, it's quickly losing its allure. Heck, even D&D knows not to give every street sweeper in town a +3 sword.... :-/
Get back to the core 6-8 heroes and tell the story of saving the world. Enough with the hero munchkinism overpopulation.
As an example, someone upthread mentioned Dr. Zimmerman. Who's that? LOL.
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Heroes reminds me of how, as a young child, I would get angry and shout at Kirk and Spock to use the damn transporter.
It seems that sci-fi and comics and fantasy style writers are always trying to fall back on plotlines that *don't work* in the genre they are writing, with the conventions that they have already established.
Oh, Peter can phase through walls, like DL, except if it's very important that Adam gets in there so that he can betray him, in which case he'll struggle to bust through the door telekinetically.
Oh, Parkman can read minds, *unless he suspects that someone is lying to him,* and then it miraculously doesn't work.
Oh, Hiro can teleport and stop time, but he never seems to do so in an efficient manner, despite being a comic-book junkie.
And then there's Mohinder Surresh, the dumbest smart-person in the world, who spend season one leading the dude who killed his father around so that he could murder people and eat their brains, only equalled by Peter, able to read minds, and already shown as suspicious of Adam, having to have his butt saved from his own naivette by Hiro, of all people!
It's not just Heroes. I've seen it in shows as old as Star Trek, where genius characters conveniently forget that they are geniuses, forget that they have transporters, forget that they have sensors, forget that they have communicators, etc. all if it advances a plot that would have worked flawlessly if it was written for a bunch of *cavemen.*
It's like the slasher movies where the group could easily overpower and thrash the serial killer, but that wouldn't be dramatic, I guess, so they have to split up into easily-killed sub-groups... 'Oh, we could actually win this, so I have to go do something really, profoundly stupid to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!'
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As an example, someone upthread mentioned Dr. Zimmerman. Who's that? LOL.
To answer your question, Dr. Zimmmerman....
Later, when Tracy confronts Zimmerman at his home, he first calls her "Barbara", following which he states, "Know you? I created you."
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As an example, someone upthread mentioned Dr. Zimmerman. Who's that? LOL.To answer your question, Dr. Zimmmerman....
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Purely randon speculation, since I don't watch it.
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As an example, someone upthread mentioned Dr. Zimmerman. Who's that? LOL.To answer your question, Dr. Zimmmerman....
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Purely randon speculation, since I don't watch it.
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I'm of a mixed mind of last night's episode.
The scene with Sylar/Gabriel was...interesting, to say the least. On the one hand, they keep pushing this idea that his power gives him the "hunger" for other people's abilities, essentially seeming to say that "he's not responsible". At the same time, however, they clearly state that Future Gabriel chooses to fight this "hunger" and, seems to be doing a good job of it. So if he chooses to be good, then so can Peter. I just wish they'd make up their minds about Sylar - good or evil.
Although I will say, I loved the thing with the watch. It was kind of cool to see more of a hint as to how his true power works.
So if that little kid, "Noah", was Future Gabriel's son, then who was the mother, and where was she at. Either way, it would have to be someone he meet's soon in the present day - that kid looked to be at least 3 or 4 years old, and they were 4 years into the future.
Future Parkman and Daphne - married with children, one of whom is Molly. That was weird.
Speaking of Parkman, I'm loving the scenes between him and Usutu in Africa. I love the way he seemed to access Usutu's power. It kind of makes sense. Usutu can see the future, just like Isaac could. Those visions are locked away in his head as memories, and Parkman used his abilities to access those memories in vivid detail - essentially expanding on the use of his abilities yet again. He is definitely one of my favorite characters.
As always, I'm looking forward to what comes next.
Well, at least they didn't lose me any further than they already have by not having 6 or more more new heroes show up. Now, if they can continue that trend and stick to the people and the stories they have right now, I'll continue to tune in.
Also, so much for 'Save the Cheerleader, Save the World' premise from season one. An evil Claire? I'm not into that at all. Her character is so much better when she can confront people and know she can't be hurt than being a villain. She should be one of the primary catalysts in somehow stopping Sylar's explosion, not running around trying to kill both Peter Petrelli's.
I do like Nicki's new "Iceman" abilities. She's become a much more interesting character now than in season one.
Parkman's African safari/vision quest seems rather redundant to me. I mean, they're already showing us all we need to see in the future via all the 4 year future jumps. This is different than when Isaac was painting the future because we didn't have 4 year time jumps in season one.
All in all, I still tune in because the show still has be intrigued, but the more future jumping they do, the less interested I become. I think what they've shown us thus far in the future is MORE than enough. Now let's get back to the current timeline and tell all the stories that lead up to what we and they saw. I think that would make for a far more enjoyable Heroes than their current Time Machine version, but that's me. *shrug*
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I think Heroes jumped the shark.
Last night just was a bunch of :sigh: 'whatever'...
The plot lines are all over the place.
Why is Maya a slut now? All of a sudden she is sure of herself and taking off by herself in New York.
Claire being evil - lame
Sylar blowing up - cool
Maya banging Mohinder - lame
Maya is still hawtness!1!!BBQ!
Mohinder experimenting on himself - lame / cliche
Mohinder grabbing that d%#+~ead neighbor (to experiment on him) - cool
Parkman and Shaman guy - cool
Hiro waking/digging up Adam - lame
Hiro being a dufus still - lame
What about KATE!!!
(I hate that she is 'gone'... stoopid writers.)
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Things that struck me about this last episode;
FuturePeter died like a chump. Yes, the Haitain was there to prevent him from regenerating, but it has been established that without a specific brain injury, he'll regenerate even from death (in both seasons one and two). How long was the Haitain going to stand there? Forever?
This 'hunger' thing is pissing me off. I hate excuses that pardon popular bad-guys for their bad-guy-deeds. If Sylar gets a chip in his brain that prevents him from eating people and starts having angry hatesex with Claire, I'm outta here...
Surresh continues to make bad choices. But this season, they are haunting him, not getting random other people killed, so it's like karma!
Parkman, on the other hand, can't catch a break, in any future. Poor guy... He's the Eeyore of the Heroes set.
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Regarding Future Peter:
Also, if being out in the open was so damn dangerous, why didn't he just go around invisible or disguised. To quote Roy Greenhilt, "Stupid railroad plots."
Regarding Sylar
As for the "hunger" thing, I'm not too pleased with it myself. It seems to be a lame attempt to force him into this whole "Villain inside every hero and vice versa" meta theme they've got going on. Still, at least they make it seem like he has some semblance of a choice.
As for jumping the shark.... I have a co-worker who has been saying the same thing about the show, since about midway through season one. Tuesday mornings are when we talk about the previous night's episode. This morning he stated that this was the final straw, to which I responded that I'll talk to him "same-time, next week".
Either way, I still find Heroes to be one of the better written shows on television.
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As for jumping the shark.... I have a co-worker who has been saying the same thing about the show, since about midway through season one. Tuesday mornings are when we talk about the previous night's episode. This morning he stated that this was the final straw, to which I responded that I'll talk to him "same-time, next week".
Either way, I still find Heroes to be one of the better written shows on television.
I still watch freaking *Smallville,* so I'm really on shaky ground to criticize characterization in Heroes, but I'll pretty much watch anything with super-powers, magic, vampires, etc. :)
Except Sanctuary. Wow. That was just bad.
Heroes is still worth watching, it just makes me frustrated at how much *better* it would be if even one of the characters seemed to have an ounce of brains (even 'masterminds' like Angela Petrelli shock me with their short-sightedness).
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The Hatian... :sigh:
When Peter gets close to him he copies his powers and then the Hatian stops Peter who stop the Hatian who stops... :ow: Brain hurt.
I guess it depends on whose range is wider - if The Haitian's power affects Peter first, he would never be able to absorb The Haitian's ability, since his would be inactive.
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I agree with a lot of the other sentiments going around here. I still watch the show, but half of it is to stir up my righteous fanboy indignation. I feel like Heroes is the ultimate "I could do better" show - they have subject matter that could make for truly amazing television, and the number of serious mistakes they make every week is staggering.
I totally agree with the sentiments about "the Hunger." Lame, lame, a thousand times lame. They gave Sylar a reason for killing people back in season one - he felt powerless and worthless and wanted to feel important. Doing an actual redemption storyline with him could have been really interesting, but I hate that they simplified it to just "his power made him bad, but he can fight it, so everything is fine."
One other thing that bothers me is not so much the jumping back and forth in time, it's the fact that they seem to be playing the future stuff for drama, like with Future Daphne's death. Why do we care if she dies then? It's an alternate future, it can and probably will be changed. Giving the future characters storylines lacks any kind of emotional payoff, since things won't actually happen that way. I understand that the scene was mostly for Parkman's benefit, as it gives him something to try to prevent, but I couldn't care at all that the future version of Daphne died.
Also, did it seem like Maya lost her accent this week to anyone else?
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Not only do I not care about futureDaphne, I'm still not even interested in presentDaphne.
Right now, I think the character I am most interested in seeing more of is Elle Bishop, who seems to have been discarded after her 'daddy issues' plotline was abandoned by Sylar Ex Machina. Other than lightning lass, I'm intrigued by the characters of Ando, Traci (or whoever Ali Larter is playing this season), Nathan and Angela Petrelli. All of them seem to have potentially interesting plotlines relevant to this season and / or signs of some sort of hidden depth or potential.
Hiro, Peter, Mohinder and Claire can fall off a cliff any time now. They all keep doing profoundly stupid things, and I can't bring myself to feel much sympathy for the dilemnas they keep bringing down upon their own heads.
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Not only do I not care about futureDaphne, I'm still not even interested in presentDaphne.
Right now, I think the character I am most interested in seeing more of is Elle Bishop, who seems to have been discarded after her 'daddy issues' plotline was abandoned by Sylar Ex Machina. Other than lightning lass, I'm intrigued by the characters of Ando, Traci (or whoever Ali Larter is playing this season), Nathan and Angela Petrelli. All of them seem to have potentially interesting plotlines relevant to this season and / or signs of some sort of hidden depth or potential.
Hiro, Peter, Mohinder and Claire can fall off a cliff any time now. They all keep doing profoundly stupid things, and I can't bring myself to feel much sympathy for the dilemnas they keep bringing down upon their own heads.
I agree with you pretty much right down the line, except I'd dump Ali Larter and keep Hiro, who is funny enough to justify his stupidity for me. I think the best way to improve the show would be to kill off half of the heroes, then spend some more time building up some villains.
Maybe the show would be better if it just focused on Elle, who leaves the Company to become a private investigator. Kristen Bell pretty much acts circles around everyone else in the cast anyway.
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Other than lightning lass, I'm intrigued by the characters of Ando, Traci (or whoever Ali Larter is playing this season), Nathan and Angela Petrelli. All of them seem to have potentially interesting plotlines relevant to this season and / or signs of some sort of hidden depth or potential.
I agree. All of these characters have loads of potential.
I liked Ando better than Hiro from the beginning. He's a geek, but he seems to be more mature than Hiro. I think I'm actually looking forward to his future.
The Niki/Tracy story is pretty cool. I'm looking forward to seeing the third sister Barbara and her power. The only problem I have is that I thought they established in Season 1 that Jessica had been Niki's twin sister but had died. If so, then why didn't Dr. Zimmerman mention Jessica?
Nathan has a less than impressive power, compared to some others. That still doesn't stop him from being a major player. I can't wait to see the resolution of the Linderman mystery. Of course, it helps that I think Adrian Pasdar is a pretty damn good actor.
Lastly - Momma Petrelli - what an evil, manipulative b$!+&. I love her. Like her eldest son, she has a somewhat low-key power, but she hasn't let that stop her from being a complete bad ass. I mean, she fed some young chick to Sylar - how f%#!ing evil is that?!? All in all, I really hope they keep her around for a long time.
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Maybe the show would be better if it just focused on Elle, who leaves the Company to become a private investigator. Kristen Bell pretty much acts circles around everyone else in the cast anyway.
I'd watch that!
Also, not only did they punk out the four oh-so-scary bad-guys, but they made a point several times of saying that 'a dozen' of the 'worst of the worst' had escaped. So they've left themselves eight other possible villains out there to deal with.
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I liked Ando better than Hiro from the beginning. He's a geek, but he seems to be more mature than Hiro. I think I'm actually looking forward to his future.
Same here. Ando has generally been the level-headed and sane one.
The writers have trapped themselves here. Hiro *has* to be a complete incompetent, good only for comic relief and bumbling along causing problems that everyone has to solve, because otherwise, his powers would pretty much eliminate the entire concept of drama. 'OMG, character X died!' 'I go back and fix it.' 'OMG, immortal swordsman!' 'I stop time and teleport him to Antarctica. He can spend the next 800 years terrorizing the penguins.'
The Niki/Tracy story is pretty cool. I'm looking forward to seeing the third sister Barbara and her power. The only problem I have is that I thought they established in Season 1 that Jessica had been Niki's twin sister but had died. If so, then why didn't Dr. Zimmerman mention Jessica?
A puzzle. Wrapped in an enigma. Smothered in the warm embrace of Ali Larters bosums, so I don't really care.
I was kinda hoping for a second that the doctor had actually *created* the girls, not just injected some 'twins.' (News flash! This just in! Three identical siblings are called 'triplets,' not twins. Although he may have been distracted by Ali's twins, so I'm gonna give him a pass.)
Nathan has a less than impressive power, compared to some others. That still doesn't stop him from being a major player. I can't wait to see the resolution of the Linderman mystery. Of course, it helps that I think Adrian Pasdar is a pretty damn good actor.
I've liked him since Profit (TV series) and Near Dark (movie). And either he got utterly *hosed* by the power-granting-faery-what-lives-in-the-sky, as his brothers both ended up with freakishly awesome powers, or he's perhaps got powers he doesn't know about yet...
Lastly - Momma Petrelli - what an evil, manipulative b*@*#. I love her. Like her eldest son, she has a somewhat low-key power, but she hasn't let that stop her from being a complete bad ass. I mean, she fed some young chick to Sylar - how f*!#ing evil is that?!? All in all, I really hope they keep her around for a long time.
Yeah, she concerns me. Either she's terribly, terribly smart, or dangerously foolish. I'm not sure yet.
When she told Hiro 'someone is manipulating us, someone powerful' I wanted to slap him upside the face for not realizing that the manipulator was standing right in front of him.
Everyone in this show not named Noah Bennet is terribly gullible...
Same here. Ando has generally been the level-headed and sane one.
The writers have trapped themselves here. Hiro *has* to be a complete incompetent, good only for comic relief and bumbling along causing problems that everyone has to solve, because otherwise, his powers would pretty much eliminate the entire concept of drama. 'OMG, character X died!' 'I go back and fix it.' 'OMG, immortal swordsman!' 'I stop time and teleport him to Antarctica. He can spend the next 800 years terrorizing the penguins.'
Level-headed and sane. In other words, he makes the perfect sidekick.
The problem is that we know Hiro becomes a relatively competent badass in about 4 years time...and Ando kills him (or at least takes him out of a fight). I think Hiro's biggest drawback is that he immediately goes to comic book plots to figure out how best to deal with situations. You'd think Papa-san would have provided him with better reading material.
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Also, not only did they punk out the four oh-so-scary bad-guys, but they made a point several times of saying that 'a dozen' of the 'worst of the worst' had escaped. So they've left themselves eight other possible villains out there to deal with.
Right, and that could be cool, except that when Mama Petrelli claims that they are all as bad as or worse than Sylar and then three of them are simultaneously taken out by Sylar and a normal human, it diminishes the ones we haven't seen yet as well.
Damn skippy. Of all the characters on the show, he is one of my favorites. A guy with no powers whatsoever, and he not only "hangs with the big dogs", sometimes he scares the piss out of them.
A guy with no powers...that we know of. We already know that other members of the organization, Mrs. Pettrelli, Blitz-girl's dad, and Parkman's father all had powers. It's possible that Bennet and the others do have powers and that they haven't been revealed to us.
For all we know, he could have an ability that isn't worth a damn in a fight, but could be extraordinarily useful in other situations. Considering the other guy could turn things into gold, it would be an easy way for the organization to have a lot of liquid assets on had at a moment's notice.