
Ed Healy Contributor |

I'm trying to get info on Cholerix. Based on some web sources, it looks like the primary source material is in MMII, page 30. Also, BOZ has stated that Cholerix is an yugoloth lord. Unfortunately, I'm in Iraq and have no access to MMII. Can anyone give me the 411 on Cholerix? I'd appreciate it.
ephealy (at) ephealy (dot) com

Antithesis |

I'm trying to get info on Cholerix. Based on some web sources, it looks like the primary source material is in MMII, page 30. Also, BOZ has stated that Cholerix is an yugoloth lord. Unfortunately, I'm in Iraq and have no access to MMII. Can anyone give me the 411 on Cholerix? I'd appreciate it.
ephealy (at) ephealy (dot) com
EP,
"Anthraxus is the most powerful daemon on the Lower Planes, but his position is challenged by other unique daemonic beings, the chief of which are Bubonis, Cholerix, Typhus, and Diptherius, along with others unknown or unrecorded by scholars."
an excerpt taken from the Monster Manual II
This is the only mention of Cholerix in Monster Manual II. If you want more information on Anthraxus, though, check out Gary Gygax's "Gord the Rogue" novels, in which (if I recall correctly) he plays a significant part. Hope that the info helps! Stay safe in the sandbox! :)

Ed Healy Contributor |

Thanks Antithesis. I'm assuming nothing else is out there (good for me).
I did some digging since my first post and came up with very little beyond what you wrote. It appears that Dragon 347 has a blurb in the "Princes of Elemental Evil" article, related to Olhydra / Bubonix / Imix. It appears Cholerix is a female altraloth (whatever an altraloth is), who serves Bubonix and is seeking Olhydra's help in supplanting him.

Chris Manos |

Thanks Antithesis. I'm assuming nothing else is out there (good for me).
I did some digging since my first post and came up with very little beyond what you wrote. It appears that Dragon 347 has a blurb in the "Princes of Elemental Evil" article, related to Olhydra / Bubonix / Imix. It appears Cholerix is a female altraloth (whatever an altraloth is), who serves Bubonix and is seeking Olhydra's help in supplanting him.
Bubonix isn't an Elemental Prince of evil. He may be in leage with Olhydra. I haven't read the entire article.
Anthraxus one of the big daemons back in the 1Ed MMII. He was the only one of the five (including Cholerix and Bubonicus.
Altraloth may actually be "Ultroloth", which is found in MM3. Unfortunately any more than that would probably be considered breach of copywrite.

CallawayR |

I always felt making any of the disease based Daemon Lords (Yugoloths if you MUST) normal daemons (like the ultraloth) was kinda a cop-out on someone's part.
Anthraxus was unique. Why should Cholerix, Bubonicus, etc. be any different? That would be like saying Asmodeus and Orcus should be a pit fiend and a balor. (THough I guess they did that by moving Asmodeus off camera in 2nd ed. and changing the rulership of the 9 Hells to a committee of pit fiends. Ho hum.)
In the 1st Ed MM2, Anthraxus had attributes that reflected those of his "name" disease: a ram's head, rotting flesh, etc. Cholerix should be the same.
Attributes of Cholerix:
- Female (-rix is a feminine ending in Latin)
- Maybe something shellfishy (you can get cholera from shellfish)
- Water association, esp. corrupted water (most people get cholera from bad water - this may explain any and all connections to the water archomental - incidentally another unique being, not an elder water elemental with a name).
- Means of attack associated with disease (this would be pretty gross in this case - people with cholera essentially die of dehydration by way of diarrhea... but I'm sure there are suitably non-graphic ways to handle that)

Shade |

I'm not BOZ, but I co-wrote the recent archomentals article with him. Alas, our name-dropping of Cholerix (and Bubonix) didn't make the final cut.
Both of these two altraloths (not a typo) appeared in the excellent article "A Pox on the Planes" by Ed Bonny in Dragon Annual #2. Essentially, the altraloths are yugoloths specially modified by night hags to have unique powers. Anthraxus went on to become the oinoloth as well, so he is technically a yugoloth, altraloth, and oinoloth all in one. ;)
Cholerix serves Bubonix as an aide and lieutenant.

BOZ |

indeed, you won't find any mention of either being in the Princes of Elemental Evil article. we tossed that reference in there to spice things up, but it got cut in the editing process. so the link to Olhydra is very unofficial but perfectly valid for any DM to pick up and adopt. :)
i'm thinking either:
1) WotC might be considering doing an FC3 based on yugoloths, and don't want the altroloths referenced until they have a better idea of what they want to do, or
2) Someone at paizo has other plans for the diseased yugoloth lords and pulled the reference.
or both. ;) or neither. who knows. :)

CallawayR |

I'm not BOZ, but I co-wrote the recent archomentals article with him. Alas, our name-dropping of Cholerix (and Bubonix) didn't make the final cut.
Both of these two altraloths (not a typo) appeared in the excellent article "A Pox on the Planes" by Ed Bonny in Dragon Annual #2. Essentially, the altraloths are yugoloths specially modified by night hags to have unique powers. Anthraxus went on to become the oinoloth as well, so he is technically a yugoloth, altraloth, and oinoloth all in one. ;)
Cholerix serves Bubonix as an aide and lieutenant.
Talk about the impermanence of memory...
Cholerix doesn't get much more than a job review in the article. If she's a major player, she probably needs some stats.
So, as a 1st ed to 2nd ed translation:
Oinoloth = Oinodaemon
altraloth = archdaemon
yugoloth = daemon
I so like the original terms better. Of course they could always do what they did in Hordes of the Abyss and ressurect the term "daemon" and make yugoloths a type of daemon (maybe demondands as well? even night hags?) as tanari'i became a subtypes of demon.

Shade |

I don't believe the term "archdaemon" was ever coined in an official source, but I could be wrong.
Altraloths debuted in 2E. I believe only Anthraxus and Charon were anything more than names in 1E.
Despite being an old 1E player, I prefer 'loth to 'daemon, if for no other reason than daemon is too close to demon (and makes me think of computers).