
Lathiira |

I found Hulk vs. Thor to be rather enjoyable and surprisingly well-executed, though that is just my humble opinion. I felt they captured the essence of the various characters pretty well.
As for Thor 600, looks like Loki's plotting is just as nasty as ever. The idea of the Asgardians moving to Latveria was rather annoying, though. With the events leading into Dark Reign including Namor renewing his alliance with Doom and Doom permitting the Atlanteans access to his realm, Loki suggesting something similar is a tad obvious. Especially with both Namor and Loki part of the 'inner circle' Osborn assembled. Though if Doom wanted to, I suppose he could contrive an excuse to have the Asgardians and the Atlanteans duke it out. But that might just knock over a small country or two . . . .
Personally, I would love Thor to go rejoin the Avengers after this. Either group, but particularly the New Avengers. Let Osborn get another taste of TRUE power. Sure, he's got Ares and the Sentry. But Thor? He's got the Odinforce. And Ares hasn't managed to beat Thor decisively, now has he?

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600 was a great read and had plenty of more content that made its 4.99 price worth it. Bor is an awesome character and I hope he shows again someday. The Latveria thing could be interesting as its something I've thought was off since it was first announced Asgard would be over Oklahoma. Why not over Montana or Wyoming? Somewhere more to the Asgardian climate? Latveria is a keen choice as it also would be 'super-friendly' as opposed to the post-Initiative States. I know its all part of the Dark Reign master plan but really, Asgardians need to have a stomping ground and not be couped up. Loki BTW is up to some grand scheming in the last few issues. It may be the best I've seen in a longtime!

Valegrim |

Same old junk from Loki and every Asgardian is so blissfully unaware and gullible; such a dissappointment storywise, but is consistent. I am thinking they really had to take Thor down from being king to have him go on adventures; so what they chose was workable and decently done. I liked 600 a lot; liked the Avengers cameo; whichever Avengers they are; like that they got pasted also :)
so; any new news on the Thor movie; still cant find a trailer.

Lathiira |

Who is Sentry?
The Sentry, aka Robert Reynolds, is supposedly an old hero that was dredged up IIRC. He's Marvel's Superman, complete with strength, flight, invulnerability, and whatnot. He recently fought the Hulk during World War Hulk to a standstill. He's not exactly sane, however, and he's the Dark Avengers powerhouse. If he ever gets his head on straight, he'll be monumentally scary. Others can give you a better answer.

Valegrim |

hmm I remember when Marvel got sued when they made a character to much like Superman; they had to fight it out in court and Marvel lost; he had str; flight; invulnerablilty; super strong; N ray vision and eye beams; had a succeptability to some other rock; am trying to remember his name; Hyperion; was even an alien; battled the Hulk to a standstill in Defenders 13; May of 1974; hehe hows that for a memory.

Lathiira |

hmm I remember when Marvel got sued when they made a character to much like Superman; they had to fight it out in court and Marvel lost; he had str; flight; invulnerablilty; super strong; N ray vision and eye beams; had a succeptability to some other rock; am trying to remember his name; Hyperion; was even an alien; battled the Hulk to a standstill in Defenders 13; May of 1974; hehe hows that for a memory.
Hyperion still exists, though I've primarily seen the Ultimates version of him and the Exiles deal with him in the past few years. But the Sentry basically was a drug addict who was looking for his next high, broke into a lab, and drank the wrong stuff. The 'wrong stuff' turned out to be an ultra-strong recreation of the Super-Soldier serum, about 1000 times as strong. The result was the Sentry. He's afraid of the outdoors and has a split personality issue: on one level he feels he doesn't deserve those powers, so his alternate personality, the Void, comes along to undo what the Sentry does. It's a mess and you'd have to find the Sentry's limited series to straighten it all out. He took down Terrax, a Herald of Galactus, like he was nothing, so the Sentry is quite powerful. The Avengers teased him about throwing things into the sun, and there's some evidence that says he gains power from the sun but he's not as reliant on the sun as Superman; even in the Negative Zone he retains some power, though he's weaker. To get an idea of what the Sentry can do, read World War Hulk and the New Avengers from the beginning through till Civil War, as well as the most recent Dark Avengers. When he's at his best, he's not someone to trifle with.

Valegrim |

hmm; guess if things got to rough; Thor can just throw him into another dimension; he has done it a lot of times to a lot of foes to strong for the Avengers; he did it to the Hulk a few times; but somebody always brings him back; even Thor; least before he got the Odinforce, didnt know where they went; they just went.

Big Jake |

Any bets on whether we'll see Thor vs Sentry in the near future??
Well, with the thrashing that Thor gave Iron Patriot and the "Avengers" I figure he might try to sic his big gun on Thor.
All in all, I don't see the Dark Avengers lasting long. They immediately ticked off the "real" Avengers, and set Thor off at a glance.
I think a Sentry/Thor fight might be one of those things that helps Bob see what side he's on. He stayed out of WWHulk until the very end, stayed out of Secret Invasion too long, and probably feels that he needs to be doing some good. When you end up fighting Thor, you gotta wonder what side you're on.
All in all, this ain't gonna help his psyche one bit.

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This might be a plan to consolidate titles in a budget crunch.
New Avengers: Hey, we pounded the Dark Avengers (and sued them for trademark infringement!)
Mighty Avengers: So did we! (well except the trademark part)
Thor: I say thou shouldst put aside thy differences and join me in an additional round of Dark Avenger Bashing.
All: Avengers Assemble!
(Aside: In the last MSH game I played, I had a mutant with a public identity. Yes, he did trademark his name and costume.)

wspatterson |

Valegrim wrote:hmm I remember when Marvel got sued when they made a character to much like Superman; they had to fight it out in court and Marvel lost; he had str; flight; invulnerablilty; super strong; N ray vision and eye beams; had a succeptability to some other rock; am trying to remember his name; Hyperion; was even an alien; battled the Hulk to a standstill in Defenders 13; May of 1974; hehe hows that for a memory.Hyperion still exists, though I've primarily seen the Ultimates version of him and the Exiles deal with him in the past few years. But the Sentry basically was a drug addict who was looking for his next high, broke into a lab, and drank the wrong stuff. The 'wrong stuff' turned out to be an ultra-strong recreation of the Super-Soldier serum, about 1000 times as strong. The result was the Sentry. He's afraid of the outdoors and has a split personality issue: on one level he feels he doesn't deserve those powers, so his alternate personality, the Void, comes along to undo what the Sentry does. It's a mess and you'd have to find the Sentry's limited series to straighten it all out. He took down Terrax, a Herald of Galactus, like he was nothing, so the Sentry is quite powerful. The Avengers teased him about throwing things into the sun, and there's some evidence that says he gains power from the sun but he's not as reliant on the sun as Superman; even in the Negative Zone he retains some power, though he's weaker. To get an idea of what the Sentry can do, read World War Hulk and the New Avengers from the beginning through till Civil War, as well as the most recent Dark Avengers. When he's at his best, he's not someone to trifle with.
I think it's best to just forget the Terrax fight. For one, Terrax isn't a crazy environmentalist. For two, at that point, I believe it had been well established that Terrax wasn't anywhere near Earth.

Lathiira |

I think it's best to just forget the Terrax fight. For one, Terrax isn't a crazy environmentalist. For two, at that point, I believe it had been well established that Terrax wasn't anywhere near Earth.
I agree, I was using it as an example of the Sentry's power, not of Terrax's character. But WW Hulk might be the best example for that.

Valegrim |

Well; now we have the start of some kings battle; Blackbolt vs the skrulls or something ;and Nova is all jazzed up and what the heck ;nova corp is recrutiing humans and is right here on earth; marvel world is nuts at the moment.
wonder if we will have Thor and Ares squaring off pretty soon; am bit nervous of Doctor Doom learing from the shadows.

wspatterson |

One thing to remember with any Thor vs. so-and-so is that at this point, Thor has the Odin Force. Which puts him a step down from, say, Galactus. Something that the tool writing the red Hulk garbage apparently wasn't aware of. Though Thor still should have been able to beat that awful character into the dirt and spit on his corpse.
Thor vs. Ares turns into a short fight. Vs. Sentry takes slightly longer.
Why does it seem like it's been a long time since the last issue came out?

Lathiira |

mortellan wrote:So little Thor news lately. I am about going into an Odin-sleep of my own...the 'mort-sleep' as it were.Thor's been banished. The newest issue seems to be taking a long time to get to the store. That is all.
Next week, if I read the Marvel website correctly, for the next Thor. This comic doesn't seem to operate on the "normal" schedule of 1 comic/4 weeks or so that others usually do. Could just be me, though.

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Thor's comic is now my favorite Marvel title, bar none.
My only complaint: what the hell are they doing? sometimes I wait up to three months between issues!!!
Then you have Spider-Man (which used to be my favorite, but now has been reclassified as utmost crap) coming out like 20 times a month...
What the heck?

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It's slowly converting to the status quo.
THOR: Doctor Strange, my hammer is all broken. Can you help me fix it?
DR. STRANGE: Well, I can make your hammer the way it always was, but ... it'll make you the way you always were.
THOR: That's the price I'm willing to pay, in order to return Sif to the way she always was.
DR. STRANGE: Excellent. So, if you'll be so kind, I need to go off with my Eye of Agamotto and be the way I've always been.
ODIN: Hmmm.

Valegrim |

as a long long time Thor reader; Thor's hammer has been broken before; he just fixes it; he has recast it and all; there have been quite a few panels of him using usually Ironman's foundry to recast it.
the has other items too; belt gives him increased strength for instance and he wears armor. His usual garb you see is plate and chain those circles on his outfit are the plates, but true, all his weather and dimensional powers and flight come from his hammer; though he can also sort of fly by throwing something and then catching it right after it leaves his hand and having it pull him along; talk about godly reflexes.

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Well it seems Strazinski is off of Thor here soon. I don't have the link to where I read it but he cites an 'upcoming crossover event' centered on Thor as the reason he is done with it. Apparently he doesn't like strings attached to his storylines can't say I blame him. Well this is good news to those of us who would like something resembling a monthly comic again. He had too much on his plate anyhow.

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Shush you! :)
His Thor was the best version of Thor in decades! I don't mind waiting two months for something that good. It's like he created a new "Thor Campaign Setting" with his version; he built a new origin for Thor that I have come to respect and love.
With that said, the comic needs more action. The "campaign setting" story part is "done," so please let us proceed to the part where we see him battling/adventuring.
Hopefully, I hope that whoever comes in utilizes this new Thor foundation as the building blocks for a new/great monthly comic. Hopefully we don't get to see a complete retcon or reset of the story...
PS: as of last issue, anyone notices that Loki is not a chick anymore??? he's a guy again? what's up with that? Doc Doom gave her a sex change???

Lathiira |

Shush you! :)
His Thor was the best version of Thor in decades! I don't mind waiting two months for something that good. It's like he created a new "Thor Campaign Setting" with his version; he built a new origin for Thor that I have come to respect and love.
With that said, the comic needs more action. The "campaign setting" story part is "done," so please let us proceed to the part where we see him battling/adventuring.
Hopefully, I hope that whoever comes in utilizes this new Thor foundation as the building blocks for a new/great monthly comic. Hopefully we don't get to see a complete retcon or reset of the story...
PS: as of last issue, anyone notices that Loki is not a chick anymore??? he's a guy again? what's up with that? Doc Doom gave her a sex change???
I think Loki's spell was dispelled when Thor gave Sif her own form back, as Loki was borrowing it, more or less.

Valegrim |

hmm; I smell plots within plots. Also, seems like Marvel has expanded their rules for Mjolnir from way back Avenger days. I am pretty curious about the Bill thread and the ice spear.
so; Sif; Thor and his three buds who stayed behind; malcontents hehe. Wonder if Iron Man is gonna come back and make his "your an illegal superhero speach again" and am kinda suspicious of Dr. Strange.

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hmm; I smell plots within plots. Also, seems like Marvel has expanded their rules for Mjolnir from way back Avenger days. I am pretty curious about the Bill thread and the ice spear.
so; Sif; Thor and his three buds who stayed behind; malcontents hehe. Wonder if Iron Man is gonna come back and make his "your an illegal superhero speach again" and am kinda suspicious of Dr. Strange.
Iron Man is toast. He doesn't have a company anymore; Starktech is largely gone; SHIELD is gone; and Norman Osborn is trying to find him and kill him with the help of the HAMMER supervillain team.
...at least, this is where things were at when I stopped buying the comics about three months ago...
;)

Lathiira |

Valegrim wrote:hmm; I smell plots within plots. Also, seems like Marvel has expanded their rules for Mjolnir from way back Avenger days. I am pretty curious about the Bill thread and the ice spear.
so; Sif; Thor and his three buds who stayed behind; malcontents hehe. Wonder if Iron Man is gonna come back and make his "your an illegal superhero speach again" and am kinda suspicious of Dr. Strange.
Iron Man is toast. He doesn't have a company anymore; Starktech is largely gone; SHIELD is gone; and Norman Osborn is trying to find him and kill him with the help of the HAMMER supervillain team.
...at least, this is where things were at when I stopped buying the comics about three months ago...
;)
Iron Man: the Extremis that let him become such a technological pain in the butt has also failed. Stark's trying to hole up and build a new suit of armor, but his very mind is slowly failing as well. Memories and IQ are dropping like flies. So Stark won't be bothering Thor anytime soon.
Dr. Strange: After screwing up during World War Hulk, Strange has stepped down as Sorcerer Supreme. He has been seeking out the person that the Eye of Agomatto will choose and has found that to be Brother Voodoo. Strange said he'd spend some time helping Voodoo get his own act together by finding teachers and different arcane tomes. Strange is also trying to get his personal act together. No reason to suspect Strange. He's trying to do what he feels is right, trying to help friends, but also deal with his own responsibilities.

Valegrim |

WEll, in the new Thor series; he showed up to arrest Thor and Thor wupped him and smashed his armor to bits; Stark had to crawl away and try to make it back to town; but, Thor said it wasnt finished and he was still considering some appropriate punishment for Stark for that whole cloning thing.
As for suspecting Dr. Strange; well, I like him, but I suspect everyone; hehe plots within plots. There are just to many powerful figures that use magic that play dress up that have fooled Thor in the past. Someone who says things like "as goes the hammer, so goes Thor" even if Thor agrees sets off manipulation bells and whistles of a plot hammer falling.
Valegrim wrote:hmm; I smell plots within plots. Also, seems like Marvel has expanded their rules for Mjolnir from way back Avenger days. I am pretty curious about the Bill thread and the ice spear.
so; Sif; Thor and his three buds who stayed behind; malcontents hehe. Wonder if Iron Man is gonna come back and make his "your an illegal superhero speach again" and am kinda suspicious of Dr. Strange.
Iron Man is toast. He doesn't have a company anymore; Starktech is largely gone; SHIELD is gone; and Norman Osborn is trying to find him and kill him with the help of the HAMMER supervillain team.
...at least, this is where things were at when I stopped buying the comics about three months ago...
;)

Lathiira |

WEll, in the new Thor series; he showed up to arrest Thor and Thor wupped him and smashed his armor to bits; Stark had to crawl away and try to make it back to town; but, Thor said it wasnt finished and he was still considering some appropriate punishment for Stark for that whole cloning thing.
As for suspecting Dr. Strange; well, I like him, but I suspect everyone; hehe plots within plots. There are just to many powerful figures that use magic that play dress up that have fooled Thor in the past. Someone who says things like "as goes the hammer, so goes Thor" even if Thor agrees sets off manipulation bells and whistles of a plot hammer falling.
Well, I doubt Thor has forgiven Tony. But right now Tony's trying not to die while he builds up a new suit of armor and whatnot. The worst thing Tony could do to Thor right now is fall over on him. I'm keeping up on Iron Man, Thor, New Avengers, and some other Marvel titles. Considering Madame Masque just got the drop on Stark, he ain't doing well.
Thor, if we'll all recall, came to Strange for help. Strange told him how it was. Thor went ahead with things. Strange isn't really a plotter. He might not tell you things, but he usually opens up once he's kept some demonic horde's invasion from going off. He told Thor what he needed to know, and they've cooperated in the past. Strange is going go be busy for a while, so he can't plot against Thor just now.
The plot hammer to get Thor will come along later, Valegrim. And it won't be Strange's fault, because he even warned our favorite Thunder God about things in advance.