It is rumoured that an old Enemy from the Troughton era will be making a comeback.
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And here I heard tell it was....
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I've heard a rumour that this series will do a crossover with Life on Mars (the UK's other current time travel series!
One of the actors from Life on Mars will be playing a key role in the last couple of episodes this season—perhaps that's the grain of truth to this story.
I got to watch Smith and Jones last night... I appreciate that, for once, the Doctor hasn't immediately forgotten about Rose; he's had a nasty, nasty habit of seeming to stop caring about his companions immediately after they leave—or, in some cases, shortly *before* they leave. (Susan, Dodo, and Sarah Jane spring to mind...)
I also appreciate that we're not just getting scripts with the name "Martha" pencilled in where the word "Rose" has been crossed out. In just one episode, it's already clear that the two characters are fairly different. Russell's good at that stuff.
Anyway, Smith and Jones gets a thumbs up from me.
The Rumour about the crossover with Life on Mars was just that. I saw the last episode of that show last week, and the ending was conclusive (if not definitive) and certainly didn't allow for a crossover.
John Simm has a part in the Doctor Who finale, but we don't know which part. He's been seen in a trailer, but there's no more info.
While I haven't seen The Shakespeare Code or Gridlock yet, it's been confirmed elsewhere that my spoiler on the previous page was correct.
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John Simm has a part in the Doctor Who finale, but we don't know which part. He's been seen in a trailer, but there's no more info.
Oh, there's info, all right. He's playing:
....which, by the way, is an anagram of (and you really, really might not want to click here...):
I haven't seen Gridlock yet, but I did see The Shakespeare Code. The lighting, locations, sets, and cinematography were all gorgeous, but the script... not as good as The Unquiet Dead (the most obvious comparison story). Shakespeare himself was great. (And the villains' makeup was pretty lousy.)
Saw the Gridlock episode on Saturday and was really impressed.
I thought it a definate change in the usual style of Dr Who, and was one of the few one-off episodes that was actually satisfying (I usually find them too quickly wrapped up, and instead look forward to the two+ parters), I started watching the episode unaware of what was to follow, and found that it was in fact one of the most enjoyable episodes ever! Seriously.
It was a nice observation of Martha's that the Doctor took her to the same place that he had taken Rose, and was none too impressed by that.
And yes, people's predictions for the Head of Bo's (Sp?) final words are correct, but slightly contradictoray to the sentence that preceded it, which was little bit odd, but I guess we'll see...
John Simm has a part in the Doctor Who finale, but we don't know which part. He's been seen in a trailer, but there's no more info.Oh, there's info, all right. He's playing:
** spoiler omitted **....which, by the way, is an anagram of (and you really, really might not want to click here...):
** spoiler omitted **
It's all supposition right now: we haven't had confirmation from the BBC, although there have been lots of hints. Simm has been interviewed, but I don't think he even confirmed he was playing
I knew about the anagram already, but thanks for reminding me.
One thing though: Give the Dalek's a rest for goodness sake...
I meant it! Grrrrr!
Wow, a Doctor Who thread here. WIll wonders never cease!
I have yet to watch this past week's episode (The Lazarus Experiment), tho I have seen the five previous ones. Series 3 has been darker and more dialed back than last year's series, which was one of the weakest ones in my opinion.
Really glad to see Tennant being a bit more restrained in general and not as panto.
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Boy. Let's see.... I haven't said much since Smith & Jones. Well...
The Shakespeare Code. I liked the episode it's most easily compared to, The Unquiet Dead, much, much more. But Shakespeare was great—loved the whole "rock star" view of his world. As with pretty much every episode so far in series 3, I enjoyed the Doctor/Martha interaction a lot more than the plot.
Gridlock. Boy, Russell T Davies must have had a bad commute the day he came up with that one. Obvious comparison would be to New Earth—and, again, I liked New Earth better. Not by a lot, though. Good humor, good concept, good little vignettes, liked the cats...
Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks. I really liked that, for once, something set in 1930 America wasn't either a gangland/speakeasy thing or a dustbowl depression story. Contrasting Hoovervilles against the Empire State Building was really clever. Some serously dodgy accents to be forgiven there, but they all still beat any of the accents in say... The Gunfighters. I thought the first episode was pretty good, but I just couldn't buy the big villain—they just couldn't carry out such an evolution long-term, so it was obvious it would be ending pretty much the way it did.
The Lazarus Experiment. I like the angle with Martha's mom, and I kind of like the concept in general, but the makeup and CGI were pretty distracting.
I feel like series 3 has taken a lot longer to find itself than the first two series, and that's odd. Maybe it was too early for a two-parter? We're kind of just getting started, yet we're already almost halfway through.
Boy. Let's see.... I haven't said much since Smith & Jones. Well...
The Shakespeare Code. I liked the episode it's most easily compared to, The Unquiet Dead, much, much more. But Shakespeare was great—loved the whole "rock star" view of his world. As with pretty much every episode so far in series 3, I enjoyed the Doctor/Martha interaction a lot more than the plot.
Gridlock. Boy, Russell T Davies must have had a bad commute the day he came up with that one. Obvious comparison would be to New Earth—and, again, I liked New Earth better. Not by a lot, though. Good humor, good concept, good little vignettes, liked the cats...
Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks. I really liked that, for once, something set in 1930 America wasn't either a gangland/speakeasy thing or a dustbowl depression story. Contrasting Hoovervilles against the Empire State Building was really clever. Some serously dodgy accents to be forgiven there, but they all still beat any of the accents in say... The Gunfighters. I thought the first episode was pretty good, but I just couldn't buy the big villain—they just couldn't carry out such an evolution long-term, so it was obvious it would be ending pretty much the way it did.
The Lazarus Experiment. I like the angle with Martha's mom, and I kind of like the concept in general, but the makeup and CGI were pretty distracting.
I feel like series 3 has taken a lot longer to find itself than the first two series, and that's odd. Maybe it was too early for a two-parter? We're kind of just getting started, yet we're already almost halfway through.
While it was a classic schtick taken from Troughton-era "Evil of the Daleks" I just couldn't get into Manhattan/Evolution either.
I Did however enjoy Shakespeare Code and absolutly loved Gridlock which so shouldn't work on so many levels. Brannigan's reaction to his wife's asertion that the Doctor is mad for leaving their car the way he does has become my favorite line for summing up the Doctor. It was just a lot of fun. I didn't even need any Happy-Happy.
As for Lazerous Experiment it almost seems a bit like a lead in episode like the Long Game back in Series 1 (or 27 if you like) but not quite so obtuse in its relationship to what I imagine the current season's finale to be like. So just what is Mr. Saxon up to, eh?
The rest of the season though looks aces - 42 (I'm expecting a reverse 24 with time travel), Human Nature/Family of Blood, Blink, and Utopia, before finally reaching the finale and Mr. Saxon.
;)
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42 (I'm expecting a reverse 24 with time travel)
The BBC has a text prologue up for 42 now. Not sure you're getting your wish...
42 (I'm expecting a reverse 24 with time travel)The BBC has a text prologue up for 42 now. Not sure you're getting your wish...
Well an average episode in real-time lasts about that long.... and yes, completely unintentional -or was it? ;)
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Just finished watching last week's "The Lazarus Experiment."
I must admit, for an episode I was particularly dreading, this went over rather well. I was horridly put off by the return to Earth in S1 with Rose, and the sudden change in dynamic of the show, but this episode went over rather well. This season continues to feel dark for me, and that's a good thing, as for me the show was at its best when it was darker.
Very curious and intrigued about this week's "42."
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Well an average episode in real-time lasts about that long....42 (I'm expecting a reverse 24 with time travel)The BBC has a text prologue up for 42 now. Not sure you're getting your wish...
Oh... now I see what you were saying. Yep.... you might be getting that!
YAY! Next eppy has Jessica Stevenson (She played Daisy from the awsome series Spaced). I love her SO much!
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YAY! Next eppy has Jessica Stevenson (She played Daisy from the awsome series Spaced). I love her SO much!
One thing I find amusing about all of the guest stars that have been on the series is that they're almost all virtually unknown in the US. I think I've personally only known a handful of actors out of all three series: Billie Piper, Anne Robinson, Simon Pegg, Anthony Stewart Head, Hugh Quarshie, and (if you count her) Lis Sladen. (Even though Christopher Eccleston had been in a ton of stuff I could have seen, I somehow managed to miss him until after he played the Doctor, and then I noticed he was everywhere.)
To me, the most exposure I had to Zoe Wanamaker, Shirley Henderson, Roger Lloyd Pack, and even David Tennant were their minor roles in Harry Potter films, while folks like Sarah Parish, Catherine Tate, Pauline Collins, Peter Kay, and Andrew Hayden-Smith are complete unknowns over here, at least as far as my experience goes. (And folks from EastEnders or Coronation Street—not a chance.)
YAY! Next eppy has Jessica Stevenson (She played Daisy from the awsome series Spaced). I love her SO much!
She's in the Human Nature two-parter which debuts here in the UK on 26th May.
42 which is this week's episode does, apparently, take place in "real time" and it seems that the aftermath of the episode leads in to Human Nature.
I’ve heard a horrid rumour:
I’ve heard a horrid rumour: ** spoiler omitted **
The BBC have (apparently) issued a Press Release to the actress' fan website saying that
This doesn't mean that other parts of the story aren't true, but indicate that
Cardiff residents have reported that
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42: The science was about as bad as it gets in the series, but I nevertheless liked this one pretty well. (Good, but not great.)
Human Nature, though, is the first episode all season that I think fired on all cylinders. Best since The Girl in the Fireplace. I hope part two is as good...
Human Nature, though, is the first episode all season that I think fired on all cylinders. Best since The Girl in the Fireplace. I hope part two is as good...
It has its roots in an original novel of the same name, written about 10 years ago IIRC. At the time, I thought it was the best thing Paul Cornell had written. From an aging memory, the story ending is a cracker.
I'm about 3 eps behind, due to holidays and family crises. It'll be a couple of weeks before I get the chance to catch up on these episodes, but I'm looking orward to them immensely.
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Man if you guys liked Season 1 then just wait till you see Season 2. It is frickin awesome (although I did think Eccleston was a better Doctor).
All I can say about Season 2 is D vs. C =)
P.S. And the 2nd Christmas Invasion is OK too.
P.P.S. If you guys like the New Dr. Who then just wait till you get a load of Torchwood. It will blow you out of the water. Captain jack Rules!!!! =)
42: The science was about as bad as it gets in the series, but I nevertheless liked this one pretty well. (Good, but not great.)
Human Nature, though, is the first episode all season that I think fired on all cylinders. Best since The Girl in the Fireplace. I hope part two is as good...
I agree. So far up til Human Nature the stand-outs this season for me had been Gridlock and Smith and Jones - (Shakespeare Code had some nice bits too). That said, I am eagerly anticipating Family of Blood, and the last four episodes of the season. Season Two I think still reigns supreme though. As for 'science,' I try to not to (and usually don't) notice it in Doctor Who. Science is for Star Trek, Doctor Who is mostly plain, old fashion magic. ;)
So any bets on how Steven Moffat will fit bananas and dancing into Blink?...
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Just seen 'Blink' (was out last night so taped it) and I have to say that it is THE best episode I have ever seen! I absolutely loved it. The storyline, the characters, the subtle effects. All top-notch.
Perfect viewing, would have been better if I'd seen it in the dead of night, and would make for a great horror-adventure RPG. :-)
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Just seen 'Blink' (was out last night so taped it) and I have to say that it is THE best episode I have ever seen! I absolutely loved it. The storyline, the characters, the subtle effects. All top-notch.
Perfect viewing, would have been better if I'd seen it in the dead of night, and would make for a great horror-adventure RPG. :-)
Blink was one of the best. Great concept, super scary....
Sigh—only three left this season.
watched blink on saturday,and i have to say it scared the pants off me
more than some 18cert horror movies.
just goes to show that good story telling and subtle effects work better than millions spent on special fx.
The episode that was on just now, Blink, was pretty awesome! I know you'll love it Vic and GGG.
Yeah, but no bananas or dancing (at least on first view). ;) It makes me look forward to the two-parter Moffat is scheduled to write next season. He has a knack for making things scary, kid-friendly, poignant and fun all at the same time. So far this has season has slogged a bit in the early-middle (at least for me), but is picking up very nicely here near the end. I like how they've been building up the idea of what it is to be a timelord this season - especially considering who's waiting for the Doctor at the end....
Are those drums I hear?
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UTOPIA was a pretty reasonable episode which got so so so so much better as it drew towards the 'conclusion'. It was nice to have Jack and the Doctor talking about Rose and her fate (as I had expected them to) to the annoyance of Martha, whose acting skills are still slightly stiff (but then it took a long time to get use to Billy Piper's Rose).
The Professor character was pretty neat as well. I didn't expect the introduction to be like this, so was glad that we got to see the cause (and very soon, the effect) of this intro (Don't want to give away too much to those that will have to wait months to see this, so am purposely remaining vague).
All in all a good episode, with a welcome return of Jack, who most certainly has a knack for introducing himself to people :-)
The single lone alien/insectoid was interesting, far more so then the Futurerace who were quite dull.
I look forward to the next two episodes with great expectations...
I've got all episodes backed up on hard drive: haven't seen some of them yet, but couldn't resist logging onto Outpost Gallifrey on Saturday night and being Spoiled.
Am I glad I did ;)
I haven't read a single word of this thread because I'm a big Doctor Who fan and enjoyed the last two series and it hasn't come to our shores yet (that's Aussie shores). I just want to ask one question:
Will I be disappointed with the new season or happy?
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I haven't read a single word of this thread because I'm a big Doctor Who fan and enjoyed the last two series and it hasn't come to our shores yet (that's Aussie shores). I just want to ask one question:
Will I be disappointed with the new season or happy?
I think mostly happy. The Christmas special isn't quite as good as last year, but it's still fun. And of the regular thirteen episodes, the first three are pretty good. The next four aren't quite as good, but the four after that are excellent. (In particular, the 10th episode, Blink, is one of the best ever.) The last two episodes are yet to air, but look really promising.
I haven't read a single word of this thread because I'm a big Doctor Who fan and enjoyed the last two series and it hasn't come to our shores yet (that's Aussie shores). I just want to ask one question:
Will I be disappointed with the new season or happy?
Vic is pretty much dead on, but I think my run down would look more like this: (X-mas Special) had it's moments, good, good, great (well it made me happy happy! ;) ), not-so-good, not-so-good, had it's moments (sort of the Long Game of this season), good, great, great, great, great! All in all Season 2 so far of the new series ranks tops.
The first three this season have thus far been the most fun then things start getting grim (not that grim = bad) and the season only just saw actual fun again two episodes ago and then we quickly ran into highly-unexpected (if you don't read spoilers) drama and action.
Hope that helps,
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SPOILERS (obviously, but not too spoilerific I hope):
So, that was the penultimate episode... I really did like the short back story and personal history of the Master, and the brief glimpse of the Timelord homeworld as it once was. It was not quite what I was expecting, but then it never would have been.
Still not entirely sure how the enclosing drumming/darkness merited an invasion when the person that is perpatrating the latter seems so unnerved by the former. And just what are the origins of the 'new' species? Perhaps Darlek or Timelord in origin? Time will tell :-)
And fingers are crossed that Martha will finally get an opportunity to be more then a companion in presence and name only, getting to do something of note in the last episode.
Oh, and the handheld timetravelling/teleporting device does seem to be a bit too convenient for my liking.
But overall, a good episode.
Jellybaby?
Jellybaby?
MMMmmmm. Thanky! :)
I'm guessing it doesn't survive the next episode...
It would seem that you were correct. The finale was, in my mind, a little bit dissapointing, though it would have been worse if Martha's objective HAD been to find and collect the ultimate weapon.
A lot of the scenes in the episode just felt a little bit too disjointed, manic, and again, too rushed. The revelation of the Face of Boe's origin was interesting, and you have to give Martha credit for bailing out whilst she can, taking her own advice that she once gave to a friend (though it remains to be seen if she does return).
I will being looking forward to the Christmas special though (Voyage of the Damned), given the crash incurred in the last scene.
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Had heard the same thing earlier today on Radio 1, overall I think that it might be a good thing for the series.
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** spoiler omitted **Had heard the same thing earlier today on Radio 1, overall I think that it might be a good thing for the series.
Hopefully it will allow the sense of continuity to grow.
I'll admit, I hope that the Christmas Episode would have a 'two doctors' feel to it. They've hinted that the 9th doctor was on the Titanic. I'd enjoy watching the two actors play off each other.
I am hoping though that they aren't the last two time lords. It's a safe bet Romanna's dead as are Leela, the council, etc etc. I'm holding out hope for the Rani and Susan.
Confirmed by the BBC today: Kylie Minogue, songstress and occasional actor will be appearing in a major role in the Christmas Special.
Their website has a photo of Kylie and David Tennant (wearing a Lou Reed T-Shirt) together.
Fan opinion on some sites is divided, to say the least!
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Fan opinion on some sites is divided, to say the least!
Well, I thought there was no way casting Billie Piper was a good idea... but that turned out to be the best Doctor Who casting idea EVER. I tell you, the one thing that the new series has had since day one is stunningly good casting.
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And I just read Catherine Tate will be the season 4 companion.
I will admit that I liked Billie Piper as Rose. Then again I like curvy women (even if they're barely above jailbait) :-(
I did find her answer to 'when would you go if you had a TARDIS' a good sign of her youth though. "10 years forward, to see myself at 30."
Fan opinion on some sites is divided, to say the least!
Even more so over the news that Catherine Tate is almost 100% likely to play her Bride as the new companion.
Yes she was a bit too loud, and brash, but perhaps that's what the series could do with after the quiet Martha Jones...
As usual I will hold off too much judgement until I see it. :-)
I want Romana to return. :( :)