Now I know Dragon has always been the book for D&D, but what about Modern?
Could we see some information for Modern, class acts, sage advice, bazaar?
How about Dungeon, an issue for Modern, some hook, line, and sinkers, side trips and full adventures?
Just a thought.
James
I'd like to see some Modern stuff, as well. It's an awfully neglected product line (as far as WotC material, anyway).
I doubt there's enough of a market out there. I enjoyed the occasional Top Secret article in the Dragon of old, but I can just imagine the moaning that would go on on these boards if Dragon ever dared publish anything that didn't relate to 3.5 D&D.
I'm going to convert my old Twilight: 2000 campaign into d20 modern. I've got a lot of old modules and they were heavy on fluff. I so enjoyed Red Star/Lone Star and the Free City of Krakow.
I liked Polyhedron. All that variant stuff in there was very inspirational, even <gasp> for my D&D campaign.
Or maybe just a couple new mags(I know that's asking alot, but it is a good idea) call them something along the lines of Sewer(dungeon) and i dont know about modern dragon...
I'm not sure if I would buy a magazine called "Sewer"...
Haven't played d20 Modern yet, but am looking forward to playing in a modern campaign in my group. This will be focused on roleplaying and exploration, with little combat. I'm looking forward to it, but what do you guys think about Modern?
WaterdhavianFlapjack
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Or maybe just a couple new mags(I know that's asking alot, but it is a good idea)
"Just" a couple of new mags!? lol.
I doubt there's anywhere near enough demand for it, and I'd be astonished if the numbers for future/past/apocalyspe/cybercape where good enough to attract advertisers.
There was a fair bit of d20 modern, and related, material in polyhedron, so I expect they can also dig up numbers and/or feedback from there.
Again, I doubt they would support the assertion that a new d20 modern mag is a good idea.
Wander down to your FLGS and count up all the many millions of other gaming magazines there are competing with Dragon & Dungeon. What? Finished counting already?
Personally, I'm kinda impressed that D&D alone manages to sustain 2 magazines, and I suspect there aren't any other games that could support a similar 100 page, glossyish, monthly.
Haven't played d20 Modern yet, but am looking forward to playing in a modern campaign in my group. This will be focused on roleplaying and exploration, with little combat. I'm looking forward to it, but what do you guys think about Modern?
WaterdhavianFlapjack
I think it's pretty sweet, really. There's a ton you can do with it, especially if you're willing to toss in books like Past, Future, Apocolypse, etc. There's some loopholes, certainly - every game has those. But I've had a lot of fun playing it.
I recommend d20 modern. We converted FASA's Star Trek: The RPG to d20 modern/d20 future and it was a lot of fun. The compatibility to D&D and other d20 systems made it easy to learn for the players.
I disagreed with some of the firearms statistics, being somewhat knowledgable on that topic, so I changed them around a bit.
The d20 modern book actually puts a lot of information in it that duplicates D&D books, such as the monster manual. A lot of pages focus on modern arcane variants, weird critters, psionics, stuff like that.
That's not a bad thing, because if you run a d20 modern game like that you don't need to buy anything else. I have d20 past and d20 future as well, but you don't really need those books.
Expect to do a lot customization for your campaign "vision", but I highly recommend it.
Thanks for the info, guys.
WaterdhavianFlapjack
One of my favorite movies is "Sneakers." I have this vision of someday running a d20 Modern campaign based on that movie - though I don't know if I can pull it off or not. But it'd be fun trying. :D
For a change of pace, I ran our D&D group through a "Modern" version of the Crighton novel "Congo." It took two sessions, the players had a blast. We eventually used all the empty soda cans from our sessions to construct the "lost city of Zinj" (where the last part of the adventure takes place) for the minis combat. I think a lot of Crighton's novels are potential sources for other Modern adventures.
I have only played a couple d20 modern campaigns compared to the various plentitude of D&D campaigns I've played. Let alone the fact that Dragon is a D&D magazine, not a generic d20 magazine. D20 articles should be rare, few, and far between. Not that I mind seeing them occassionally, but if d20 modern needs support, then the fans of it need to pick up more manuals and make it a success so that it warrants its own magazine. As it stands, it's obviously not a big seller with WotC because they don't devote many resources to it. And I really don't want to see my two favorite magazines cluttered with support for a gaming system that isn't supposed to be the focus of the mags.
I would like to see a D20 modern mag (or even a pdf, or a site devoted to it {but not WotC}), even if it is just a few people banging their heads together on some ideas. Are there any such sites, or am I dreaming?
I have been buying everything for the D20 Modern line since its inception. I was buying Dungeon specifically for the D20 Modern tidbits. Way back when Dragon was still an in house magazine under TSR there were articles that supported Alternity, their last best hope to produce quality Sci-Fi gaming (personally I thought they succeeded but what do I know?, about once every other month. I would enjoy those articles immensely. Would it hurt Paizo to do the same?
I believe that many of the PDF companys are doing a great job supporting the D20 modern market. RPG Objects is a great company, and they make Modern Dispatch, which is a weekly modern/future PDF. Also, Ronin Arts makes Datastream, a D20 future PDF. Here are the websites.
http://www.rpgobjects.com/index.php?page=dispatch
http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=4828Salcor
Thanks for the info...I had no idea this was available.
Or maybe just a couple new mags(I know that's asking alot, but it is a good idea) call them something along the lines of Sewer(dungeon) and i dont know about modern dragon...I'm not sure if I would buy a magazine called "Sewer"...
How about "City" or "Metropolis"? Hmmm... "d20 Modernity"? {scratches head, tries to think of something better...} Ugh. If someone can think of a better title, I'll buy a copy...
the guys at Intrepid Heroes have produce 2 e-zine for d20Modern. Both issues bring new ideas, concepts, fluff and crunch that you may or may not use, but still these guys put a lot to bring nearly a 100 pages of Modern material. Check it out: http://www.intrepidheroes.com/modernized.htm
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I am not opposed to a 1 to 2 page blurb on some new thing for Modern ... and/or for Star Wars. I was actually one of the minority who enjoyed having Polyhedron attached to Dungeon Magazine.
But we likely have to consider two things here:
1. Limited page space. Paizo has mentioned before page limits with which to contend. And if you've noticed over the past two years - the magazine keeps getting smaller, bit by bit. So, rationalizing the need to exclude 1, 2 or more pages of Dragon for inclusion of something related to a Modern (or Star Wars) campaign is likely not going to happen.
2. As stated, I .. and likely those of you in support of such a blurb, are the minority. Dragons is a DnD magazine and I image "cha" will hit the fan if Paizo started to drift into other sectors. Ultimately, Polyhedron was cancelled amidst a lack of a fan base and continued criticism but what appeared to be a majority of subscribers. I imagine Paizo is going to shy away from drawing forth such criticisms again ... at least so close in time to its provoked cancellation of Polyhedron.
if space is the issue, make a small monthly or even bi monthly magazine for D20 Modern. I like the name Metropolis but I don't think Warner Brothers would allow it. Anyone see a problem with calling it Frequency or Transmission(s) or something along that nature?
I would be very much in favor of d20 modern or other "official" d20 products getting some page-play in Dragon. I was very disappointed with d20 past/apocalypse (future was okay) and I think Paizo could do better.
I know it probably won't happen. My own D20 modern campaign is on hiatus right now, but I'm working on it anyway--my backroom tinkering project.
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I would also like to see modern, future or Star Wars content in the magazines but I think that it is unlikely to happen while maintining their exclusivly D&D mission statement.
Perhaps the staff of Dungeon could slip in some d20 Future with an update of the Expedition to Barrier Peaks and even include a side bar of how to use the adventure or information in campaign settings other than Greyhawk like the Forgotten Realms (little change), Ravenloft(it came from outer space horror), Eberron(who knows how that would work) or even Modern America.
Or maybe a special d20 Modern Annual Issue of Dragon.