Erik,
The Greyhawk content in Dungeon has been fantastic lately. For a long time, I was an occassional purchaser at the news stand. I finally broke down and became a subscriber.
Endur
I think Erik will be happy to read your post since he's been getting a lot of flak lately about this very subject. I happen to be somewhat guilty of this myself ;)
I like it, too. I just hope it isn't going to decrease. HOPE HOPE HOPE.
The only suggestion I could make would be to make use the world more every now and then. Most Greyhawk adventure's are generic, but maybe just once or twice a years it might be nice to go more in-depth? Maybe a political adventure or something where the PCs are spies or diplomats? Birthright is the only D&D setting that rivals Greyhawk for interesting political angles to work. And there's always adventures using GH power groups like the Circle or the Scarlet Brotherhood.
Either way, it's cool.
You must have not read the Eberron Campaign Setting. There is politcs up the ying yang in there. You've got the 5 nations, Dragons, The Citadel, Dragon Marked Families, The Silver Flame, and this is just the surface of the groups in there. And some of the Leaders are not what they seem......<G>And of course a major war just ending with the absolute destruction of a nation and no one knows who caused it!
Don't get me wrong, I love Greyhawk. It's what I learned and played in back in the 80's but Eberron has really struck a chord with me....
-Dave
Maybe I've missed something, but what exactly has been the problem with the Greyhawk stuff in Dungeon? I'm new to the whole Greyhawk thing, but I fail to see anything wrong with it ... in fact, searching round the net, it seems hard to find an excellent piece of Greyhawk writing that *isn't* linked to Erik in some way (the hardy folk of Canonfire being a notable exception). Are you guys just down on him because he let someone play a ninja in his campaign?
Greyhawk fans are impossible to please all the time.
Impossible.
I know this because I am one of them, so the best approach is to try your best and roll with the inevitable punches.
OTOH, some of us are going to complain no matter what.
And they say nothing in life is certain...:-D
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Erik,
The Greyhawk content in Dungeon has been fantastic lately. For a long time, I was an occassional purchaser at the news stand. I finally broke down and became a subscriber.
Endur
No dwarf icon? :)
I agree. Hopefully Gary Holians long planned city articles can make a showing. Hopefully with the LG approved stamp. I'd like to see Enstad. (sp) or Blue. One of the Core LG areas of a city that hasn't seen publication before.
Mike
Erik,
Consider this particular Greyhawk fan pleased. The maps, adventures, campaign backdrops and critical threats dealing with Greyhawk have been fantastic. Keep up the great work!
The Greyhawk content...nay! the quality of the content, has brought me back to a regular D&D campaign after a year or so of playing Modern. Definitely keep it up.
I am still waiting for a Greyhawk city map for 3.5! THAT would be icing on the cake now wouldn't it ?
Mike,
I avoided the dwarf icon because I couldn't see a way to upload an Endur jpg. So I went with the wolf icon, representing Endur's special mount (a dire wolf).
Tom
It seems like some people are pretty hot on:
1. Not enough focused Greyhawk content that is consistent with the historical events pre 3rd ed.;
2. The absence of Critical Threats;
3. The debate over the push of Eberron over Greyhawk or other campaign settings given the limit on monthly content;
I used to thumb through Dungeon, but mostly bought any Greyhawk module b/c of the evolution & continuous definition of the campaign up until the Gazetteer that was never published in hard-copy, "Ivid the Undying".
I recently became a subscriber b/c of:
1. Critical Threats;
2. The Greyhawk section;
3. The revamp of "Maure Castle".
I don't play b/c I don't really have time to focus on it, what with career, marriage, kids, and all that brings to the table. For me, the things I listed makes it all worth-while to read Dungeon. They are themes that grab the reader's attention. I don't think its too late to cycle these themes back into the Dungeon playbook, and I think that Erik and co. have been pretty good to address these customer feedback forums.
I think balance and strategy are the key:
1. Create themes, run them, let them peak, phase them out, then bring them back in as other themes are developed;
2. Don't overpower the magazine like it was before - good God, for a while, all I saw was Forgotten Realms - it made me sick. Too much of any one theme really isolates the demographic and ultimately puts the whole business at risk.
Hey, on a side note:
Specific to Greyhawk, can you do a write-up on "Neb Retnar". He's one of the adventurers who fought Iuz on Robilar's ill-fated expedition to Castle Greyhawk when he released him by "accident". - Just a wish, thanks
Ah, well then that explains it: I still don't have Carl's books memorized yet :D
That's even possible?
Perhaps what I should have said instead of "memorize" is that I've never used Carl's books in play in a GH campaign (I didn't own most of the early 2e GH stuff until a few years ago), therefore I don't have that intuitive, deep-down association for all of the content like I do with the older and newer materials :D
I'm shocked and disappointed. I thought you were up there with the likes of Erik!
Tsk, tsk... you'll just have to come to greytalk more often so that I can lecture you on the wonders of Ivid the Undying, Iuz the Evil, The Marklands and From the Ashes :D
Specific to Greyhawk, can you do a write-up on "Neb Retnar". He's one of the adventurers who fought Iuz on Robilar's ill-fated expedition to Castle Greyhawk when he released him by "accident". - Just a wish, thanks
Backwards his name is Ranter Ben. That can't be accidental. <G>