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One thing I've said before that I especially like with the mythological inconsistencies is that you're not bound to pick only one myth that's "true". Like, Windsong talks like each of the first gods sprang fully formed, but it's not important to the myth to highlight how exactly each appeared, so maybe Asmodeus' account us accurate about each of them forming out of motes of light, and at one point Sarenrae was both one of the first eight but the first eight were also just a bunch of demigods for the first thousand years while they grew in power.
Meanwhile, that Asmodeus formed in tandem with Hell doesn't necessarily preclude the story that he much later 'discovered' Hell filled with asura and conquered it for his own devices one day while having a disagreement with his brother that even later capitulated into him taking a host of angels with him to become the first devils.
This is 100% exactly the point. Pick the one that works best for you and run with it!
That said, it DOES get tricky when the one picking the one that works best is, say, me, and I'm picking it because I'm developing or writing an adventure that's based on some of that mythology. That sort of thing does, in time, start to lend facts to the mythology, but... that's I guess part of the cost of publishing stuff that builds on previously published stuff.
If the fate of the drow has shown us anything, it's that even stuff published in adventures isn't set in stone.
I think (and hope) Paizo being forced to do this will be a once in a lifetime event.
It's the third time Paizo has had to do a big shift as a result of being dependent on another company, and in the grand scheme of things was the simplest one to pull off (the other two being losing the Dragon and Dungeon magazine licenses resulting in the creation of the Pathfinder brand and Pathfinder Adventure Path, and 4th edition not being friendly to the...
Let's hope that the third time is the charm.
I remember reading the posts that James Jacobs wrote which dealt with having to eliminate OGL creatures and concepts, especially the drow. This was not easy for him or others at Paizo. (Apparently, something will be done with the drow in Starfinder, but that is a different continuity. Perhaps the results of that can feed back into Pathfinder. The problem is creating a group of "dark elves" - a very old concept in some cultures on our world, such as the Norse culture - that does not look like something that a certain company to be named cannot have their lawyers file a lawsuit over and have the threat of a lawsuit bring Paizo to a grinding halt.)
Fortunately, I see my players and GMs liking the changes in the Remaster. Also, it seems that there will be ample opportunities for players to have their characters experience the impact of the War of the Immortals and shape events. I look forward to not only the books and adventures, but hearing how people are interacting with the events of the Godsrain and beyond.
William Ronald
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David knott 242 wrote:
This death has interesting implications for the Starfinder setting.
Previously, Rovagug and Torag were the only deities positively identified as being absent in the Starfinder setting (but probably alive on Old Golarion, if I have read the clues correctly).
Many of us mistakenly assumed that all of the other deities were still alive and present, just a lot less popular. Clearly that is not the case -- we cannot assume that any deity not mentioned in Starfinder material is alive or dead at that point. But I guess that matters less in a setting with no clerics receiving their spells directly from deities.
Paizo has started that Starfinder is a different continutity. In old terms of another game, it would be a future version of alternate prime material plane. Or in Pathfinder terms, an alternate Multiverse set int he future. (It is a sepearte continuity but I think my comparison is apt.)
William Ronald
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Will The First Blade be stepping up as Gorum’s “inheritor”? Will it be available to select as a deity in lieu of its former lord?
I imagine that there will be some hints as to where the worshippers of Gorum will go.
In Osirion, the Osiriani goddess Sekhmet might be a good option. I played with someone who had a war priest of the Lady of Slaughter. Ragathiel and some empyreal lords might gain worshippers. Similarly, some may turn to Calistria for the sake of vengeance.
William Ronald
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- PFS2 - #5-13 - Thick as Thieves, an adventure for characters of levels 5-8.
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William Ronald
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Thank you to all the amazing women (as well as everyone period) at Paizo who have contributed to our hobby.
As a GM, I concur with the points that Caryn DiMarco and Sasha Lorvana Harving make about inclusivity. I try to make my tables welcome to everyone, as we can benefit from the diverse views and experiences of others.
William Ronald
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We will offer the following adventures after character creation sessions. Each character creation session should take about two hours with the remaining time spent playing short adventures:
11 AM - 4 PM - Pathfinder Quest (Series 2) #15: In the Footsteps of Horror, a repeatable scenario for characters of levels 1--4.
This session is part of a Learn to Play Pathfinder Second Edition event. Players will work with the GM to help create characters and learn more about the game, including character classes in the new Pathfinder Remaster books. An adventure will follow the character creation session and should take perhaps an hour or two at most.
Pre-generated characters will be available for those who wish to play but do not create a character. Players with existing characters of levels 1 to 4 are welcome as well.
William Ronald
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William Ronald
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Pre-generated characters will be available for those who wish to play but do not create a character. Players with existing characters of levels 1 to 4 are welcome as well.
Starfinder is a separate continuity, so it's not relevant here in terms of what's happening in Pathfinder. :)
Is that still the case with Starfinder 2nd Edition?
As for my reasoning for Torag, is the number of clues dropped by Luis that point toward him, and the OGL fiasco. Even though the OGL had no bearing on who it would be. However, those clues could be discussion generators rather than pointing to the god who will pass on.
Hmm, looking over the Core 20, the god with the most narrative impact and has a direct connection to D&D is Asmodeus.
Perhaps, Sarenrae does the unthinkable and kills him? This would check off three boxes: Kill a major god that has narrative and thematic weight, possibly alter the Prismatic Ray in some form, and fulfill the removal of OGL ties.
I hope that it is Asmodeus who dies. He has been steadily elevated since D&D's earliest days to move from being the chief of archdevils to a greater god. (He is not that impressive in the original work that he appears in, the Book of Tophit. I suspect that E. Gary Gygax put him at the top of the hierarchy of Hell as he was more obscure than some other figures.) He is tied into D&D's lore and removing him would sever ties. It would also (pun intended) create a hell of a situation with Cheliax as some infernal pacts would be negated, and there would be struggles in the nation that could lead to civil war or a lot of turmoil. Who would come out on top in the hierarchies of Hell, and what would the death of Asmodeus (perhaps by a known god or by unknown forces) mean for Cheliax, the Hellknights, and others? Would Rahadoum be emboldened to reclaim its lost territory and decry the followers of deities? Or would their moves backfire horribly on them? There are many narrative possibilities, so I hope that the decision that Paizo makes leads to many interesting narrative possibilities where characters - whether in Organized Play or elsewhere - will have chances to help shape what comes in the aftermath of the death of a god. It should be impactful, as Aroden's death was. For now, I expect that many are eagerly waiting future entries in this series.
Other deities will be impacted as well. Perhaps Torag -- assuming that he survives - will change further. Perhaps the loss of a fellow deity will bring the members of the Prismatic Ray closer. Perhaps Zon-Kuthon will make more overtures into Cheliax. Or others might step up as patrons to Cheliax. (Set comes to mind and this may create a rivalry between Cheliax and Osirion.) The future is uncertain, and Golarion may be in more need of heroes than it has in a very long time.
William Ronald
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Correction:
Join us from 11 AM to 4 PM and 5 PM to 10 PM, Sunday, February 18, 2024, at Geeky Teas and Games, 2220 W Magnolia Blvd, Burbank, CA 91506. We will offer the following adventures:
11 AM - PFS2 -5-10 - The Crocodile's Smile, an adventure for characters of levels 1-4.
- PFS2 - 2-17 - Lost Maid of Anactoria, an adventure for characters of levels 3-6
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William Ronald
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11 AM - PFS2 -5-10 - The Crocodile's Smile, an adventure for characters of levels 1-10.
- PFS2 - 2-17 - Lost Maid of Anactoria, an adventure for characters of levels 3-6
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William Ronald
Venture-Lieutenant, California—Los Angeles (South Bay)
William Ronald wrote:
Join us at 11 AM to 4 PM, Sunday, February 11, 2024, at Geeky Teas and Games, 2220 W Magnolia Blvd, Burbank, CA 91506. We will offer the following adventure:
11 AM - PFS2 -1-21 - Mistress of the Maze, an adventure for characters of levels 1-4.
William Ronald
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11 AM - PFS2 -2-02 - Mountain of Sea and Sky, an adventure for characters of levels 3-6.
Also, we will have a Pathfinder Society Game Masters clinic for those who are interested in learning to be a game master. No game is scheduled for this session.
5 PM - PFS2 - 3-18 - Dacilane Academy's Delightful Disaster, an adventure for characters of levels 1-4.
Corrections: Bounty 11 is Forged Facade, for characters of level 1.
This session is part of a Learn to Paly Pathfinder Second Edition event. Players will work with the GM to help create characters and learn more about the game. An adventure will follow the character creation session and should take perhaps an hour or two at most.
Pre-generated characters will be available for those who wish to play but do not create a character. Players with existing characters of level 1 are welcome as well.
William Ronald
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I am glad to see that we will have All Ages quests. Sometimes, players want to introduce their kids to RPGs. Constructs might be a good thing for young players to pit their adventurer's against. (Hmm, maybe a ruing was an old Jistkan construct fight club.)
Pathfinder Second Edition now allows players to choose floating bonuses rather than traditional penalties for ancestries. (For example, a player creating an elf character can instead of taking a bonus to intelligence, a bonus to dexterity, a free attribute boost, and a penalty to constitution can instead opt to take a bonus to any two ability scores, much like a human character.)
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Join us at 11 AM, Sunday, December 17, 2023, at Geeky Teas and Games, 2220 W Magnolia Blvd, Burbank, CA 91506. We will offer the following adventures:
11 AM - PFS2 -Pathfinder Quest (Series 2) #14 - The Swordlord's Challenge, a repeatable adventure for levels 1-4. This quest will be preceded by a Pathfinder Remaster clinic, where we will help players adapt any characters that they wish to the Player Core book.
PFS2 - 2-16 - Snakes in the Grass, an adventure for characters of levels 3-6.
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Join us at Odyssey Games, 1795 E Colorado Blvd, Pasadena, CA 91106, at 11 AM and 5 PM on January 13, 2024 for Learn to Play Pathfinder Second Edition sessions.
We will offer the following adventures after character creation sessions. Each character creation session should take about two hours with the remaining time spent playing short adventures:
11 AM - 4 PM - PFS2 Quest #1: The Sandstone Secret, a repeatable adventure for characters of levels 1-4.
5 PM - 10 PM - PFS2 Quest (Series 2) #14: The Swordlord’s Challenge, a repeatable adventure for characters of levels 1-4.
This session is part of a Learn to Play Pathfinder Second Edition event. Players will work with the GM to help create characters and learn more about the game, including character classes in the new Pathfinder Remaster books.. An adventure will follow the character creation session and should take perhaps an hour or two at most.
Pre-generated characters will be available for those who wish to play but do not create a character. Players with existing characters of levels 1-4 are welcome as well.
Thank you for your hard work and sharing your stories. I would love to see these items and more make it into a future publication about the continent that the people of Avistan and Garund call Arcadia. (Ironically, Arcadia is the name of a town near Pasadena where one of my GMs live.)
William Ronald
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So, if I have a character from a heritage not covered yet, such as my duskwalker cleric, am I correct that I would update the class part of it from the remaster and work with the heritage as weitten? Also, any word on learning ancient languages, such as Ancient Osirioni?
William Ronald
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Regardless of class, your preexisting characters will remain valid. You have the option to make changes using the Remaster rules.
The Player Core and the GM Core will be part of the Core assumption. So, Archives of Nethys is a valid option for players to use for any character from the Core Rulebook or the Player Core.
Paizo could have gone the route of making the new rules a completely new edition or calling it such. It may have even helped sales. However, I think it is comforting that you can change or not change your characters as you desire.
A year ago, none of us dreamed of the OGL debacle or the Remaster. I think that there has been a great deal of effort to make this as smooth a transition as possible. Paizo will not hire a private police force to demand you turn in your old books.
William Ronald
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- PFS2 The Island of the Vibrant Dead, an adventure for characters of levels 3-6.
5 PM - PFS2 - 2-09 - The Seven Secrets of Dacilane Academy, an adventure for characters of levels 1-4.
