Yes, I would be very interested. I haven't read up on all the systems from ultimate intrigue in a while, but I am sure it would be great in the context of kingmaker. I'v had a few ideas in the past for kingmaker characters. Depending on creation rules I'll see what works, or make something completely now, but you can color me intrigued.
Here is the Background for Zelik, I didn't want to miss getting him out there. I think his stats are on my other computer. I was also wondering if you might use some of the newer things from Ultimate wilderness. I think it might be fun in this campaign. Background: The battle was raging all around him. Their position had been over run. Men he had known an fought with for years were dying around him. Zelik was supposed to keep them alive. It was his job to protect them, but he had failed. The orcs had overrun their position, but that wasn’t it. Zelik could handle some orcs, Zelik could handle an army of orcs, but this was different someone was commanding them, someone powerful. He was almost out of spells. Zzzwooosh a burst of magic missiles sprang from his hands as a group of orcs crashed through the gate his missiles exploded on some sort of barrier protecting the attackers. He was done, this was it the orcs were rushing him and all he could do was stand there. He closed his eyes and waited for death. He heard screams all around him and all he could smell was death and smoke. With a thump he was on the ground. Every muscle ached, and he heard nothing but a piercing screech in his head. He could no longer smell the burning and as the ringing in his skull began to subside he slowly opened his eyes. It was so bright, but he began to see blurry green in front of his eyes. ”is this Heaven. It can’t be hell,” he thought to himself, ”at least I’ve got that going for me.” the green blurs began to define themselves and they took the form of grass. He was laying on the ground. ”So heaven has grass” he mused as he rolled over on his back and peered upwards. He was under a large spruce tree and it was a clear day. He sat up and he could make out the sound of birds tweeting. He ached, but it wasn’t as bad as it hand been moments ago. He remembered Jeremy, his rabbit familiar being snatched into death by an arrow and wondered if he would be here too ”Jeremy!” he called out in a raspy voice ”Jerrremmy!” he called again, but couldn’t sense him anywhere. ”Perhaps familiars have there own heaven.” Zelik began to walk and mused to himself about how similar this place was to Galorion. In fact this place was almost exactly like Galorian, and he had known powerful clerics who could supposedly commune with their deities and it always sounded like Heaven was some magical place, and where are all the angels? Just then his stomach growled and for some reason that was the trigger, he knew he was not dead. How could he be hungry if he was dead? But if he wasn’t dead, what had happened. He began to piece it together. ”I was fighting orcs, they were about to kill me, but they hadn’t? No, they hadn’t. I had what? Teleported? I’ve teleported pleanty of times before, but I was out of spells, and I’ve never teleported by accident before. And I was in the frozen wastes of_____. This can not to be ______. That Kind of teleportation is impossible, isn’t it. He wandered for days in his tattered leather battle robes His spell book was gone, Jeremy was nowhere to be found and, while he had spent many days and nights in the wilderness with his unit, he was never the one who needed to actually find food, or shelter. That was usually Beltins job. Poor Belton, Zelik had shielded him before the battle, but he was the first to fall, ran through by a javelin that should never have reached him. Zelik was struck with a pang of sadness and regret. But continued on. As he jornied through the unfamilier wilderness he remembered his fallen comrades Zorik, a half-orc who signed up for the army around the same time as Zorik. They were vastly different people, Zorik being a brute of a man and Zelik, slight of build, but had bonded over how similar their names had been. Comander Pips, a halfling with an unnaturally bad attitude had taken to referring to them as Z. Anywhere Zelik was Zorik was never far behind, or rather never far ahead. He had become sort of a body guard to Zelik. Both of them were gone too, Comander Pips had taken the front liners to the outer gate to meet the orcs and their position had been over run in the second wave of the battle. There had been others in the group, Jenwin the elf, and Covey, and Dall. All of them dead. On the third day, when all he had eaten was berries he some rustling in the bushes. [i] Could in be a bear, a panther, goblins, or something worse?” Zeliks mind had ever jumped the worst case scenario, and being alone in the woods was not helping. Then out loped a goat A week passed and Zelik was getting good at finding berry patches. On the third day he had eaten some dark red berries that he had thought would be delicious, and they had. At least until he vomited them up and spent the next few hours writhing on the ground. He avoided those bushes from then on and made a mental note of what they looked like. On the 7th night he attempted to summon Jeremy. He didn’t have the usual candles that he needed, and he had never tried to do it without his spell book, but it was worth a shot. He set up camp and began the ritual. When it concluded he looked around, but nothing seemed to have happened. He awoke in the middle of the night with a start, ”Gahhhh! Get it off, get it off,” he screamed. Something was on his face. He drew back his hand and slapped, but only connected with his own nose. Then he felt it, that familiar bond. ”Jeremy” he called out tentatively. Nothing… then it came again, but this time it the feeling felt like a name and he called out the name that he had felt ”Lola?” he heard a fluttering of wings and he was smacked in the face again, but this time he knew what it was. His familiar was back. It wasn’t until the morning that he found out that the creature who called herself Lola was a small Luna moth. He felt reinvigorated knowing that he was no longer alone. Lola and Zelik continued to travel for two and a half more weeks, but they were easier. Lola seemed to understand the wilderness better than him and it seemed easier to find food and shelter. It had been almost a full month since the battle when he came across a road, and within hours he arrived at town. Well it wasn’t much of a town, more of a grouping of hovels, but that was almost 40 years ago. In the years since the town had grown. It’s no metropolis, but Phaendar grew and Zelik was able to carve out a living selling baubles and magical trinkets. He began to rebuild his spellbook, but something had been lost when he was teleported to the other side of the world and he forgot much of the Arcane knowledge that he had once had. And that was just fine for Zelik for he had no desire to see battle again. Due to its’ location on the Marideth River Phaendar was the ideal for trade. As it grew Phaendar began holding an annual trade festival, where folks from all over would come to sell their wares. Zelik, like all the other residents of Phaendar, loved the festival and looked forward to it every year. Zelik would sell scrolls, herbs, and other magical and non-magical trinkets. He would put on displays of magical prowess and the crowds would clap and cheer. Zelik grew old with the town and began to forget the days when he fought in the frozen lands where he had lost so many friends. [bigger]Crash, boom[/b] The sound of the roof of the Crables house crashing in next door snapps Zelik out of his day dream. The town is under attack. There have been small raids in the 40 odd years he has lived here, but nothing like this. Zelik peers out his window and sees a hobgoblin carrying a woman over his shoulder. “I don’t recognize her, must be the wife of some trader,” he thinks as he runs to his back bedroom to grab up his pack, the same pack he carried years ago. The straps have been replaced multiple times, and its more patches that original cloth, but there is still enough of the pale canvas to call it a Kalsgardian soldiers pack. He quickly stuffs some gear in the back and grabs the crossbow leaning next to his nightstand. ”Haven’t had much use of this,” he says out loud and grabs a quiver of what is most likely rusty bolts. ”Lola, have you seen my spell book,” The moth flutters in looking the same as she had the day he summoned her. As he passed the mirror he glanced at himself. “When did I get so old?” he wonders as he looks over the grey, almost white hair, and wrinkles that cover his face. As he grabs his walking stick he becomes acutely aware of his aging joints and wonders if this is the battle that will finally reunite him with all of his fallen comrades. ”Luna, it looks like we must go out the back,” [b] he calls as he sees a group of invaders running down the street. [b]”I never wanted this,” he whispers as he uses his staff to nudge open the back door.
I know it took me a bit longer than I had hoped, glad to see that interest really picked up. I didn't create an alias yet, but here he is. Gorhoff: Gorehoff Male Human Brawler 1 CN Medium humanoid Init +4; Senses: Perception +4 Languages: Common DEFENSE AC 15 (armor +3, DEX +2), touch 12, flat-footed 13 CMD 18 HP 12 Fort (2) +4, Ref (2) +4, Will (0) +0 Defensive Abilities None Immunities None Resistances None OFFENSE Speed 30 ft Melee Main hand cestus 1d4+5 (19-20 x2 B or P), Off hand rope gauntlet 1d4(x2 B or S) (1 attack) +7 Unarmed Main hand (1d6+5 x2) (2 attacks) – Don’t at first level Ranged Special Actions Martial Flexibility 4/4 ACP-1 STATISTICS Abilities Str 20 (+5), Dex 14 (+2), Con 14 (+2), Int 8 (-1), Wis 10 (+0), Cha 10 (+0) Base Attack +1; Melee Touch +6; Ranged Touch +3 [/b]CMB +6 [b]Feats Power Attack (F),Improved Unarmed Strike/Improved Grapple (Brawler), Deft Maneuvers (1), Weapon Focus (close) (Human) Traits Outlander (Exile), Dangerously Curious Skills Acrobatics (1) +6 Climb (1) +9, Perception (1) +4 SPECIAL ABILITIES
Hey, I'm interested. I've never played RotRL before but I've applied for a couple in the past, never got in. Character concept, I know more what I don't want to play than what I do. I dont want to play a ranged character or skill Monkey, less its a bard. I lean towards rangers so I want to step out of my comfort zone. Maybe an arcane caster, I don't think I've ever played one.
I like the idea of this. It seems like you are looking for a pretty specific kind of character and would be happy to oblige. I've been wanting to play an Inquisitor lately and I really love a lot of the archetypes for this including: Sanctified Slayer, Sin Eater and Infiltrator. They all work together but if putting 3 Archetypes is too many at least the Sanctified Slayer. I need to read up on Mythic, but let me know what you think. I'll probably just go with human, but something else core and medium size might also be a possibility. Let me know what you think.
I agree with LCF, I am usually hesitant about working with someone else because my submission is tied to theirs and theirs to mine and it always worries me that it's going to be like a group project where someone is holding the other back. However he's right for a two player game to work they would need to work well together. My thought would be getting rough ideas out there and once the players are picked they can work together to tweak backgrounds so that they synergize well with each other.
I have a love the prestige class [link=Chevalier] http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/c-d/chevalier/ [/spoiler] its only 3 levels and I think it's just so cool, especially in a campaign with only 1 or 2 PC's but I also had the idea of taking the swordlord prestige class to get the DEX to damage, but not going all the way down the line. I'm not a fan of VMC myself but I thought that I would bring it up because it's a somewhat common question. I do however love multiclassing, or atleast taking things like prestige classes that make my character have his own unique niche. What's your view on the vigilante? I've been mulling over one of those for a while too, though I'd probably end up making a regular old human fighter or possibly a swashbuckler. A Dex based matial character, that's what Im getting at. I'm probably going to make a Dex based martial character. You asked if there were any other thoughts, I have so many thoughts.
Yes, and I love this idea, I've been thinking how cool it would be to be sitting in a tavern and some bard walks in and begins telling the tale the time the would was almost destroyed and your. Or having a paining in a mansion and it's of a PC from a previous adventure defeating a dragon or something. Are you planning to open uo other races and classes in later campaigns, I think Runelords should be run core though.
I think kingmaker is a great AP for pbp because there is so much to keep track of. I like the idea of using the downtime rules for that reason. I echo Lazyclownfish on the idea of having the PC's controll at least some of their cohort. As for the rules in ultimate wilderness I especially like the trophies, gathering ingredients, and cultivating ingredients rules. It seems well suited for this sort of adventure. There are new exploration rules that I haven't really looked too much into but my understanding is that they made more rules for it, which may or may not be a bad thing. One thing I've always found odd for instance was survival checks to gather food. You roll your check and yep you got food, I like the idea of using those skills in a more purposeful way. Does that make since? I just went through your hells rebels recruitment and I have to say when I first started I didn't like it. I write my characters differently, but then I started thinking about it and by the end I was thinking, hmmm I've never given my character a reason to getboutbof bed in the morning or a theme song. Which I think would probably be the question that I would get most stuck on. I've built 2 characters for kingmaker, one was very crunchy the other was all flavor now my wheels are turning trying to combine them into one. Needless to say I am looking forward to recruitment. More rules questions: Combat Stamana? VMC? Prestige classes, specifically could you take more than one prestige class? And would you allow a feat that added dex to damage, I know there are class abilities and such but what about a plain ol' feat? I'm done.
I really like this idea. Ive been wanting to run through Kingmaker since I first started playing pathfinder. I too have never used discord, but I've heard its great. I work during the day and do a lot of posting at home, but at night I'm on my computer studying, which means that I could probably be on discord in another window so most nights I would be on there too. As for the recruitment I think that it's interesting and I would probably need to see it in action before passing any judgements. It looks like crunch os less important in this recruitment, but do you have any idea the direction you want to go as for builds. For example race/class options? Gestalt? Background skills? Some of the newer mechanics from ultimate wilderness (I really like some of those)? Feat tax? I'm sure that I am going beyond the scope if this interest check with all those questions, but I tend to use the crunch like the bones of my person and give them their flavor from there, going back and changing the crunch as I see fit.
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Thats fine too, I'm trying to focus. Nore on flavor that cruch, and I love the idea of this character being old.
So I love the idea of this AP, though I know very little about it. I love to play survivalist type characters. Then I went a completely different direction because I thought an arcan caster might fit nicely in this party. I'm wondering if I could use the age rule to make my character Old or middle age. It would fit thematically with the character, I'm not just doing it to be power gamey.
I was wondering if you would allow the feat Deadly Agility from path of war. It gives DEX to damage instead of STR. I intend to use a Dueling sword, so I am already investing some feats to get it to work. Alternatively would you allow me to take a dip in a prestige class if I already am in one. I really want to use the Chevalier because I love the flavor, but I could get the DEX to Damage from a 1 to 2 level dip in Swordlord. So my question is can I take the 3 levels of Chevalier and 1 or 2 in Swordlord? OR Can I use the Deadly Agility feat.
I was working on my character on my character last night and I decided on Fighter/hunter. Then I looked at Ammon's update. Great minds think alike I guess. Though I think we will end up executing them pretty differently. Question on alternate race abilities. I want to play a human, because I enjoy playing them, but they are pretty vanilla so I thought I'd mix it up a bit. Would the trait Eye for talent work with the NPC that I recruit along the way since we are not having the leadership feat? Eye for Talent:
Humans have great intuition for hidden potential. They gain a +2 racial bonus on Sense Motive checks. In addition, when they acquire an animal companion, bonded mount, cohort, or familiar, that creature gains a +2 bonus to one ability score of the character’s choice. This racial trait replaces the bonus feat trait. I am also considering focused study. Focused Study: All humans are skillful, but some, rather than being generalists, tend to specialize in a handful of skills. At 1st, 8th, and 16th level, such humans gain Skill Focus in a skill of their choice as a bonus feat. This racial trait replaces the bonus feat trait.
I was interested before, I'm even more interested now that I see you are using some of the stuff from ultimate wilderness when I read about it I immediately thought of Kingmaker. One question for the gestalt rules does that mean that 1 half has to stay with the parent class all the way through and the other half is free to multiclass and or take a prestige class?
You have my interest as well. I have always wanted to play KM and the idea of running it solo is really cool. the main thing for me that draws me to KM is the exploration and kingdom building aspects. As for posting frequency I am pretty good about posting, especially since I do a lot of work behind a computer. I've never used discord before but I've heard that it is a good way to run a game. I'll have to check it out.
I love this idea but have questions about the downtime. First are there healers so we can heal back up? Also will there be opportunities forbus to make money, say we invest skill points in profession or craft? Along the lines of crafting what about taking item creation feats? I'm sure I've more questions but I'll bother you later with those. I am thinking some kind of summoner but I'm not sure.
I love the Feat Tax rule but I was wondering how it would work with the Vigilante's Shield of Fury talent. I am planning on taking it at 6th level. Shield of Fury:
The vigilante gains Improved Shield Bash as a bonus feat. If he already has the Improved Shield Bash feat, he can immediately swap it for another feat for which he qualified at the level he chose Improved Shield Bash. In addition, if he is at least 6th level, he is treated as if he has the Two-Weapon Fighting feat as long as one of the weapons used is a shield. This allows him to take feats that require Two-Weapon Fighting as a prerequisite without meeting the Two-Weapon Fighting or Dexterity prerequisites, but these feats only apply while he is wielding a shield as one of his weapons (unless he takes Two-Weapon Fighting as normal, in which case this restriction is lifted). Side note I am loving learning about the Vigilante. I am thinking he's going to be a merchant who sells his wears for sacks of gold and gives discounts for rumors.
Divine casters are my Jam and I have a cleric of Gorum I've been wanting to try out. Are archetypes allowed? How far are you into the module? 4d6: 4d6 ⇒ (4, 5, 1, 2) = 12
Gold: 4d6 ⇒ (2, 6, 4, 5) = 17
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