Calistria - Ex's & Oh's by Elle King
Ooh, good one! I can't believe I missed such a perfect song when I hear it on my radio every morning!
Irori - Nam Myoho Renge Kyo Chant
Nichiren Buddhists wrote:
(Obvious, but I still feel it fits Irori.)
Lamashtu - When the Heart Fails by Passenger of... er, Expletive.
Passenger of... Expletive wrote:
*Thirty seconds of synthesizer and then loud, violent screaming*
(This song is uh... something. It's definitely something. I think about whenever I think about mindless pain and chaos. I'm not going to link it; it doesn't have any lyrics, but it's still shocking. But the rhythm of the calm, slow synthesizer mixed with intervals of screaming and beating seems perfect for Lamashtu, because it embodies an important aspect of her to me. It reminds me of birth contractions, and what is Lamashtu but the mother of monsters?)
Nethys - Evoke by After Forever
After Forever wrote:
(A perfect song for admiring the beauty and power of magic while also warning that it cannot be controlled.)
Norgorber - Scaretale by Nightwish
(It's more the sound of the music than anything lyrically which makes me think of Norgorber on this one. Someone in the comments described it as 'a mix of Pirates of the Caribbean and Tim Burton', and I feel like that's an apt description of Norgorber's profile as a mixture of rogues and terrifying assassins.)
Pharasma - Last Song by Jason Webley
Jason Webley wrote:
(The explicit mention of death as a female figure made me think of Pharasma. Last Song's mournful dirge resigns itself to the inevitability of death, but also invokes the cyclical nature of life and death, just like Pharasma.)
Rovagug - Humans are Such Easy Prey by Perturbator
The Terminator wrote:
It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead!
(The title says it all. The ultimate song for the ultimate predator.)
Dolly Parton wrote:
(It's not enough that the song is about sunshine or morning. It's that it's about hope, and about redemption. The essence of Sarenrae is that no matter how bad things get, they're guaranteed to get better.)
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart wrote:
(You could put just about any song about love or beauty for Shelyn. But I wanted something that incorporated not just love, but artistry in its highest form. The fourth act of The Marriage of Figaro ends in forgiveness, and a call for the salvation of love.)
Alan Jackson wrote:
(Dwarves would totally listen to country, and you know it. So first off; mining song. But more importantly, it's a song about the quiet dignity of being a hard worker. Torag helps us find the meaning in drudgery, and reassures us of the nobility of responsibility.)
Urgathoa - Move Your Dead Bones by Dr. Reanimator
Dr. Reanimator wrote:
(You knew you weren't getting out of here without a meme song. This was an inevitability. And this stupid, stupid, STUPID song describes Urgathoa's doctrine of undeath as the ultimate in hedonism pretty well.)
Lil' Wayne wrote:
(Little bit of a genre round out. Also one of only a handful of songs about torture. Even some religious intonation in there.)
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Speaking of which:
Gorum - Warriors of the World by Manowar
Iomedae - Blade by Frameshift
Asmodeus - Suite from 'The Omen' by Jerry Goldsmith
Cayden Cailean - Drink, Drink, Drink by Mario Lanza
Erastil - Mother Nature's Son by Paul McCartney
And that's all I can get for now. Will try to come back for more later.
I could see a strong argument for representing Harry Dresden as a PF occultist instead of a wizard. He relies pretty heavily on enchanted objects to focus his magic (eg blasting rod, shield bracelet) and has used abilities reminiscent of Aura Sight (the Sight), Magic Circles, and Outside Contact. The leather duster is also reminiscent of an enchanted Armoured Coat, which would be medium armour.
I was thinking that Harry Dresden and a lot of other modern fantasy 'occult detectives' make good role models for occultists. Early Hellboy in particular was always pulling out some magic charm or doo-dad to get out of a nasty situation.
I think maybe Zatana could also be a Mesmerist, kind of? She can manipulate illusions, and I get the feeling that the Mesmerist was built just a little bit around the classic stage magician as an archetype. It's admittedly a hard class to pin; half the characters who have mind-control powers these days are also vampires, so they really don't fit the mold.
I'd say Brawlers are actually one of the easier classes to find characters for. Do you know a character who does martial arts but isn't particularly spiritual or capable of manipulating mystical energy? Then they could probably be a brawler. The Goon, Kazuma Kiryu, El Santo; all good fits.
You pretty much got my exact thoughts down, down to Pokemon and Digimon as representative of Summoners. My go-to Summoners are still Yuna from Final Fantasy X and Zero from Drakengard 3 (though I guess she's really more of a Cavalier...). Slayers are always a little difficult because it's so easy for them to fall into either Rogues or Fighters. I generally try to go by the rule of thumb that Slayers 'could win in a fair fight, but choose not to'.
It's the Occult classes that give me the most trouble. I can't think of a Mesmerist for the life of me outside some depiction of Rasputin.
One of the things that I have always liked about Pathfinder is the fact that, when it comes to classes, you can explain them pretty succinctly by pointing to a character in popular media to serve as an example. A player or newcomer might have no idea what the difference between a Brawler and a Monk is, but you can help clarify by saying that one is Captain America while the other is Pai Mei. Some class concepts are so broad that people who don't even play tabletop RPGs can name some characters who fit in with them; Barbarian, Fighters, Rogues, Wizards, Investigators, Vigilantes, etc.
But as Pathfinder's class roster has grown bigger, it's gotten a little harder to put faces to concepts. Wizards are easy, but who stands in for an Arcanist? Who represents the distinction between a Slayer and Rogue? Or a Paladin and a Warpriest?
Some character concepts are familiar, but just lack a distinct character to identify them with. If you or your players have played an MMO in the last decade, then Summoners really aren't that foreign a concept. But who in fiction best fits them?
This is a thread to suggest characters in popular media who emblemize some of the more esoteric classes in Pathfinder, just for fun. A little wiggle room is allowed, and if you think a character fits more than one class, that's fine too. It's likely a character fits into a broader class concept before a more narrow definition, so try not to get mired in the details; this is all in the name of fun. And if you're having trouble with a particular class , go ahead and ask; it might be that someone else can help you. Don't be afraid to draw from any media; literature, comics, movies, anime, video games, etc. Whatever it takes to fill in the blanks!
An idea worth thinking about is how the 'little' rakshasa play? We've got the basic ideas for rakshasa higher up on the ladder, but Pathfinder has made the species into a whole category with lesser rakshasa who aren't in any position to act high and mighty (at first glance, anyway). So how do you roleplay something like the raktavarna or the dandasuka?
You're probably thinking of an Inevitable from third edition. In particular, you're thinking of the Quarut from Fiend Folio. thecreaturecodex tumblr recently converted its stats to Pathfinder, though it clocks in at around the same power range as the Bythos. I also kind of vaguely recall a time travel Inevitable in Tome of Horrors? Maybe? It was made of quick-silver; very James Cameron-esque, if you catch my drift. Not sure if it's in the Pathfinder version.
Somehow, I don't know how, I don't know why, they just did it, they got into Sigil. I'm not sure why I thought it was a good idea to make the World Serpent Inn a back alley bar in Cauldron, or even why it led to Sigil all things considered. And yet... I couldn't stop myself. There it was; my dream, the goal I had longed for since my first Planescape book. A planar adventure, no matter how minor. And ah! They have not failed to disappoint me, this group, even the overpowered epileptic Incubus player. See, the lot recently got back from Crazy Jared's hut (where the tiefling cleric got rather cozy with Alek Tercival). As such, they're left with one huge dead dragon which they want to use for magic items. All of it. Every last organ, tooth, and scale. So now they're taking it piece by piece to Sigil to do what they want. So far, they've met an orc high-priest of Pelor (for the cleric, who I will unabashedly admit is my favorite), made contact with a perverted Troglodyte Sensate, bargained with an Efreet in a Lower Ward bar/forge, helped a nosferatu get back to his coffin, and visited the Great Gymnasium. They're still trying to figure out what to do with the kidneys, liver, and blood though... The World Serpent was fun, too. The halfling hit on the fae gnome bar-maids, repeatedly, and the cleric let a bit of her demon out while she watched the fighting pit. The elf wizard... the elf wizard is just quietly waiting for his moment. And by quietly waiting, I mean his player is reading the Complete Arcane I got him for Christmas and reading up on the Initiates of the Seven-Fold Veil.
If you'll pardon me from asking, but why NOT change Demogorgon then? I mean, yeah, he proved himself incontrovertibly awesome in Savage Tide, but I'm sure I'm not the only person who agrees with me that he could be so much more. He could be this secret, whispered thing among demons, some big secret that not a lot of demons know about but just refuse to acknowledge. Kind of like F.A.T.A.L. He could be Lovecraftian(er), or, dare I say it, even a little Gnostic. I mean, if we're working with a clean slate, maybe it's time to make something new. Just food for thought...
I just assumed that Demogorgon and Graz'zt had taken the third party road: I.E. conceptually they're still there, but with distinct non-copyrighted names. As such, that swamp god of the frog people sounds sort of like Demogorgon to me, fitting in with his semi-aquatic monster god persona. And whoever the Sacred Whore is could be Graz'zt: nothing said it was female. Of course if one was looking for a clearer back-story, simply go with the obvious; Lamashtu ate both of them and took over their portfolios.
Hmm...I have to say, it seems odd that Apollyon would be listed as one of the Four. If pathfinder is using the Book of Fiends, than Apollyon should be a Demon Prince instead of a daemon. In fact, if I recall correctly, Apollyon is the very first Demon Prince mentioned in the whole book.
Damn, I wish I had your group. So far, the closest we've come to roleplaying is our Incubus polymorphing into a little girl for Bluff checks and our resident (now absent) copper dragon selling his toe-nails to apothecaries. And of course there was the time that our drow assassin stabbed the druid in the leg so a bugbear could kill him. I think I need to work on my narration... and everything else.
I'm the DM for a pretty randy bunch of PCs running through the Shackled City. It's pretty complete already, yeah, but I need a little help from the source. See, I want to put in a bunch of side-quests, bounties, romances, all that crap. Which brings me to several points:
First off, I need IDEAS for some of these useless side-quests. What do you guys recommend?
Second, how does one move romance along in a tabletop RPG? I'm a second bass and bigger than all of my players, so there's no way in Hell I'm speaking in-character for Jil or Celeste. Just letting you know now...
And finally, does anybody have a piece-by-piece soundtrack for Shackled City? I know it's been asked before, but I've been looking for suggestions ever since I saw the soundtrack for Savage Tide in Dragon. Not really necessary, but fun to speculate.
Yeah, I just like this place more. I mean, I haven't posted on the Wizards boards in like, six months. Maybe it's because the staff here actually acknowledge that the posters are human...living...sentient beings and not just some program. That and it always boils to the same tedious argument on the Planes board; law/chaos or good/evil?
-Hoping to come into my new family with open arms,