Artanthos wrote:meatrace wrote:It's called delay action. You don't have to go before the bad guy, just between the guy color spraying and the bad guy. You "don't buy" that a party of 4 casters can get a 1st level encounter in 4 color sprays? I can only imagine your DM throws hundreds of monsters at you each encounter, instead of 4 or 6 as per usual.
Sure, 4 casters can take a CR1 encounter out in 1 round with 4 color sprays.
And four barbarians can take that same encounter out in 1 round with greatswords. Unlike the wizards, they are do not need to expend resources and don't have to hope their opponents stood together in a cluster.
I'm not saying 4 color sprays, I'm saying 1 MAYBE 2. The 4 was only in response to Lord Twig insisting that there's NO WAY an entire encounter worth of monsters would all fail their save. Because, like, CR 1 and lower creatures are notorious for their amazing Will saves.
At level 1, without cleave, no Barbarian is going to be taking out more than one creature a round with their action. Color spray, optimally, takes out 6. In all likelihood, unless the DM has them spread out like crazy, you're going to get 2-3.
The last time I saw color spray used liberally, was during Snow's of Summer, Reighn of Winter AP (for PFS) about 6 weeks ago. Our group of of 5 (4 martials (1x ranger, 1x barb, and 2x fighters) and one summoner). We made over 10+ saves against color sprays. I saw more color sprays in those 4 hours than in the past year of gaming.
No, the DC's weren't what a PC would have touted, but the improbably odds happened and the low will-save having martials made them all and minced the little flying guys.