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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

assuming the guard has high strength, and an attempt to overpower him to open the door has little chance for success (even aiding Reed to do so)...

Draylan will try and "Jackie Chan" up to the roof to join Eveline, and bypass the guards barricading the door. Any chance there are: barrels, crates, fire escapes, or any other items that would warrant an acrobatics check vs a climb?

Draylan makes eye contact with Reed, "It would seem our rouse is up! I'm amazed it lasted as long as it did to be honest. I'm obviously a better liar than I give myself credit for." Draylan looks around the doorway and the side of the warehouse for items that could be used to quickly get to the roof. "I doubt the 2 of us can overpower that brute. I'm gonna look for another way in. Perhaps the roof like our Halfling lookout."

acrobatics: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (3) + 6 = 9 -6 if climb check is required

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

thx for keeping it moving.

Ok team, are we going to "deal" with the guards, or flee since Lionel retrieved what we came for?

Draylan will delay until either we decide to fight or until after the enemies initiate combat.

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

oh yeah, forgot the trait bonus... thanks

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0
GM Rutseg wrote:

Drylan

You forgot the extra rank from the human Skilled racial trait.
Your initiative should be +8
There is something amiss with your AC. You either are using Studded leather instead of Leather, a heavy shield instead of a light one, or your AC is 15 (or I am missing something)

1. added 1 skill rank to sense motive

2. Initiative should be +6, unless I'm missing something (lol). It was correct in my spoilers, but I had to update it on the "class/levels" field
3. Should have been studded leather, corrected in profile.

Thank you for the thoroughness of your review. I appreciate you pointing out details I must have missed, or figured incorrectly.

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Is someone planning on initiating this battle, or should I?

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"I would gladly lend any aid to your associate, but I am not willing get involved in whatever conflict he may have initiated with those rough looking halflings. Respectfully, your affairs are none of my business. I'm content to watch excitement take place and tell stories, but I am not versed in matters of combat." Draylan takes a bow, "At your request, I could spare some time to watch this door while YOU check on your friend. I did my part to report the situation to... ummm... the proper authorities. If you would not like to take advantage of my offer, I will wish y'all well in your endeavors and be on my way."

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Draylan puts on his best fear face, mixed with concern.

"If you're referring to the large well armed gentleman that was just here, I pointed out a few suspicious halflings that had been snooping around the building here. He chased off after them around that other building. I fear them may have lured him into some sort of trap or ambush." Draylan points the direction the guard ran off. "You may want to find him, in case the halflings prove more than he can manage. Or maybe even to aid him in detaining and questioning them. If you like I can wait here and make sure no one enters the building while you're gone?"

bluff: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (12) + 7 = 19

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"Quick! Get out here. Your sentry may be in trouble!"

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Draylan will try and "stealthfully" check the door to see if it is locked?

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Draylan will go around to the front of the warehouse.

was there another guard, or just the one that I sent on the wild goose chase?

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Draylan will try and distract the guard heading for Reed

"Excuse me sir. I apologize if this alarmed you. That miscreant is no threat. He bumped into me and rudely insulted me, so I returned the respect by shoving him off the dock!" Draylan points to the next warehouse over. [b]"You may want to look behind that other warehouse, there was a shifty group of 3 halflings that just walked back there. While it's really none of my business, they were scouting YOUR building here... pretty intently." Draylan puts on a disgraced face, looks to the ground, "If you feel my action was out of line, I will take a punishment of assisting that rude gentleman out of the water AND apologize for my action. I'm sure you have more important matters to address than MY childish response to that wet gentleman down there!"

bluff: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (8) + 7 = 15

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Draylan would like to see if he can view inside by way of the windows on the east side of the warehouse. If unable to see in, he still would like to check if he might be able to enter through one of the windows.

perception: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (7) + 4 = 11

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0
Eveline wrote:
Eveline stops at the doorstep, seeing a new fellow. "Hey, where'd you come from? I've seen you at the Grand Lodge lounge, so you have to be a pathfinder... you bear a message from Adril Hestram?" she asks Draylan.

Draylan bows elaborately. "Message? Oh... no, sorry. No message, other than Adril felt I might be able to contribute to this investigation."

upon reaching the docks, Draylan will also ask around for information on which warehouse might be the one they are looking for.

"I know a few people in the area here... maybe they can help us..."

knowledge: local: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (2) + 6 = 8

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"Ah... the docks! Usually a place to find... a less than desirable crowd. Keep your wits about you people, things can go south very easily around there."

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Sorry for the delay.

Character name: Draylan Gossamar
PFS number: 8570-10
Day job: Perform Oratory: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (10) + 7 = 17
Brief character presentation: Bard. Draylan is a class clown, adventure seeking, socialite. Light hearted, but good intentioned. He know his contribution to a group seldom involves martial weapons. He is an inspiring force that helps any group perform better at THEIR skills.

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Excellent job GM Rutseg. Thank you for such a fast pace. Same goes to all players who also were dilegent in posting frequently. I hope you don't mind GM, but I've adopted the info your requested (and format you provided) from the 1st post here in discussion for all my games and use it for my 1st post there. Several games have had players follow suit following my post without even being requested.

Great way to start. I would love to be considered for any future PFS pbp games you host. Feel free to PM me anytime your planning on starting one or if you need someone to fill in.

Thank you

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"An organization offering a place to put my military skills to use, while exploring... sounds great. I would appreciate any help you can provide with improving my chances for acceptance."

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Draylan moves closer to Tasskar, and attacks him.

glaive: 1d20 + 4 - 1 ⇒ (16) + 4 - 1 = 19 -2 str = -1 attack

damage: 1d12 + 3 ⇒ (8) + 3 = 11

"Man I HATE swarms! All those spider bites seemed to have drained my strength some! Let's focus on this Tasskar fellow!"

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Draylan will take the potion (enlarge person) and drink it.

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"My thoughts, exactly!"

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

appraise: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (14) + 1 = 15

"Doesn't seem to be anything remarkable about that statue. Then again, that's not surprising since I've never heard of riches being found in a frog hoarde."

Daylan chuckles a little, then points up.

"I believe we have another floor to check and Balenar mentioned some sort of leader, Tassak and a pet crocodile. Shall we rid this place of his stench?"

Draylan starts trudging back towards the door and on to the staircase.

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"Yet another innocent creature to slay? Frog legs aren't near as tasty as lizard tail."

Draylan moves 5' toward the giant frog and within reach of his glaive, and swings.

glaive: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (12) + 4 = 16

damage: 1d10 + 5 ⇒ (4) + 5 = 9

if the frog moves closer, Draylan will try to trip it and prevent it from moving closer...

AoO: trip: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (18) + 6 = 24 +4 CMD to frog for having 4 legs

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Draylan bows to Balenar.

"Thank you very much, friend. We came across some nice equipment, would these items be yours, by chance? If so, we still have some parts of this place to explore, there is safety in numbers, would you like to join us?"

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Prepared as Draylan is, he produces a full waterskin AND some trail rations and passes them over to the perspective requester.

"Why are you here Balenar? And how did you come do be shackled in here as you were?"

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"OK. An un-eventful dead end. Shall we backtrack to the other door?"

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"If everyone has taken their pick of loot, we've got an unopen door here and in that room where this huge smelly mess came from. Lionel... coin please?"

Draylan will wait for the fate of Lionel's coin to pick a door, then go to the chosen door and check it for traps and activity on the other side.

perception: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (16) + 5 = 21

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

I lost track here, did we find or have access to a use of cure LIGHT wounds? I would really like to heal up if possible, and cure moderate would seem like overkill, and a waste right now.

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Draylan will take more defensive mindset and ready a trip attack once the enemy stands up. 1st is an AoO for when/if he stands up, then the 2nd is readied trip attack.

AoO: 1d20 + 4 - 2 ⇒ (5) + 4 - 2 = 7 -4 enemy AC for prone

damage: 1d10 + 5 - 2 ⇒ (5) + 5 - 2 = 8

if big trog tries to come closer

ready action: trip: 1d20 + 6 - 2 ⇒ (19) + 6 - 2 = 23

"I'll keep him isolated everyone! Finish him off!"

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

move to within 10'(reach) of door that enemy is coming from. ready to attack if door opens and enemy steps into room.

readied attack: 1d20 + 4 - 2 ⇒ (18) + 4 - 2 = 20

damage: 1d10 + 5 - 2 ⇒ (8) + 5 - 2 = 11

If enemy steps out from 1st square in room...

AoO: trip: 1d20 + 6 - 2 ⇒ (18) + 6 - 2 = 22

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Surprised and angered by the volley of javelins, Draylan rushes through the door and tries to trip the blue trog.

trip: 1d20 + 6 - 2 ⇒ (11) + 6 - 2 = 15

I'll post AoO's if the other trogs move any closer, and 1 attack (in case 1 of them IS tripped and stands back up.

AoOs:
red trip: 1d20 + 6 - 2 ⇒ (2) + 6 - 2 = 6

green trip: 1d20 + 6 - 2 ⇒ (14) + 6 - 2 = 18

AoO for standing: 1d20 + 4 - 2 ⇒ (19) + 4 - 2 = 21

damage: 1d10 + 5 ⇒ (8) + 5 = 13

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"How many floors did this place look like it had, from the outside?"

Draylan turns to Lionel...

"Is this where we consult to coin? Or are we proceeding with a more systematic exploration from bottom to top? In other words, are we seeing what's behind door number 3 here, or skipping it and heading up again?"

Draylan turns to the cramped group of pathfinders...

"Did anyone want to check THIS door for surprises?"

Draylan surveys the door waiting for the party's replys.

perception: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (6) + 5 = 11

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"Agreed Sir Mugfunkle. That appears to be the extent of this floor. Shall we proceed onward and upward to next floor?"

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"I whole heartedly agree! Very impressive you 2. I had no idea you were prepared to deal with a unique threat like a swarm. Kudos. I apologize for doubting you both. Shall we see if these bats were worth your trouble?"

perception: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (2) + 5 = 7

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

no problem, I assumed if Nigel wasn't OK with that, he could resist me picking him up. In which case I could either leave him be, or roll a combat maneuver... bull rush, grapple, ect on him. Anyway... starting over...

"Swarms are nasty people! I plan to run out the door and shut it behind me, locking the bats inside. For your own safety, please do the same."

Draylan quickly darts out the door and readies an action to close it after the others clear the room.

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"I was actually thinking, if we give the bats a few moments... they may fly out somewhere else (where they came in), and we can check out this room without distraction OR possible injury!"

Draylan will wait for awhile while listening at the door, to see if the sounds of the agitated bats, disappears.

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Draylan will try and pick up Nigel as he tries to corral the party back out the door they came in and slam the door behind them.

After rushing back through the door, setting the gnome down, closing the door behind him and leaning against it while catching his breath...

"Sorry my friend... *breath*... we had NO time... *breath*... to discuss the issue... *breath*... Everyone OK?!"

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

k: dungeoneering: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (17) + 5 = 22

Draylan remembers something an instructor said in his pathfinder prep class: cave vermin... and relays the information to the rest of the party.

Everyone, feel free to open spoiler for dungeoneering check on bats.

[b]"These are not easy to deal with. I suggest we get out of here, and try to close the bats inside with the door, and avoid tangling with them all together. EVERYONE OUT! NOW!"[b]

just to clarify, the door we just came through is the only way (that our characters can tell) for the bats to get into the room we just came from?

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

I say we let him open it. with luck it will provide us some much needed healing sources. 1st adventure with all new... random... characters, only CORE to boot... is tough on healing resources!

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0
Lionel wrote:
Assuming that the obvious fact of piercing weapons is useless against skeletons is obvious, he's going to turn to Draylan and say, "Go get 'em, Captin!", gesturing towards his potion of Enlarge Person, and then giving him a touch that releases another buzz of insect wings. Draylan, you can now re-roll all d20 for your next turn and pick the best one. Abuse it, or Calistria will be sad. You won't like her when she's sad. Also, 1 more use today.

I didn't see anything that changed that action posted afterward, but if it doesn't apply, then... bummer. Calistra smiled upon the nat 20!

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

wow, I sleep for 6 hrs, wake up, and missed an encounter! Good job ending it quickly.

Draylan mesmerized by the surprise of flaming skeletons loses focus for a moment and is frozen in place. When he snaps out of his shock, he sees bits of smoldering bone throughout the room.

"Sorry everyone, I must have lost consciousness for a moment. Thank you for dealing with the danger while I was... ahem... preoccupied. Since the danger is gone, shall we take a moment to check for anything the museum might be interested in... besides the scrolls, that is?"

perception: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (3) + 6 = 9

if I still get the benefit of the extra roll from Lionel...

perception 2nd roll: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (20) + 6 = 26

wow, nice re-roll. thanks Lionel

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"Oh, yes! I forgot, as the 'Favored Sting' dictates. We are following the guidance of Lionel's god! On to the 3rd floor."

Draylan waits for a moment while he receives a nod of approval from each member of the party, then opens the door!

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Draylan secures the potion to his belt for quick access and climbs the stairs.

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

before we go in, can we help out our wizard who is at 0 HP, and anyone else below max? perhaps a channel that hits everyone?

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

str aid: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (17) + 3 = 20

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

Draylan, focuses and swings his glaive hard!

glaive: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (13) + 4 = 17

damage: 1d10 + 5 ⇒ (8) + 5 = 13

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"I almost feel sorry for the little guy. Oh well. Dibs on the tail!"

Draylan follows the others into the room and tries to bring down the curious beast with his glaive.

glaive: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (5) + 4 = 9

damage: 1d10 + 5 ⇒ (10) + 5 = 15

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

I must be missing something? What do you mean electrified?

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"I can appreciate your logic, wise wizard. But it appears this creature has simply made his home here. I put forth, that I would not have showed the same restraint that this creature has, had a group of armed people forced themselves into my home."

Draylan looks up and to the side with his eyes as he scratches his head, as if pondering a decision...

"On the other hand... bar-b-que lizard tail on a stick, IS very tasty! Sooooooooo... whichever. Perhaps we should have Lionel flip a coin for it, that seems to be our preferred method of decision making."

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

"Those smelly things have no honor and thus deserve no quarter, but I will abide by the concensus of the party. I can't imagine they could smell any worse when they are dead, though."

Draylan cautiously turns to the lizard, prepared to retaliate if threatened.

"This little guy doesn't seem malicious in any way. Unless anyone can see something of value in this room, I'd be content to close the door with him inside, and let him be. If my inner compass is correct, we've made a complete circle and this room will merely lead outside to the door that Lionel's coin had us pass on. We should see what's behind this other door!"

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Male Human Bard/1: HP (10/10): AC (16/touch=13/flat=14): Saves (Fort=1/Ref=4/Will=2): Initiative +6: Perception +4: Sense Motive +0

nice! crit the attack and epic fail the confirmation. talk about 1 extreme to the other.

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