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Sorry everyone, I spent most of the day babysitting and did not get back until much later than expected! I will answer your questions later, as my soft bed is eagerly awaiting me to flop down very unladylike on it and fall asleep fast.
Are you trying to justify systemic discrimination and brutality by a American police force against persons of color by the discrimination and brutality of brown police against white people ten thousand miles away? If you would read what I was replying to, you would clearly see that I am not trying to justify anything. I was replying to a post inferring that the reason that I 'could not see the issue' was because I have never been discriminated against because of my race or some other factor. The fact that you think I am trying to make this a white vs. black shows what you are trying to prove, that anyone who disagrees with you must be a racist trying to couch their terms in sympathetic wordage. Am I wrong? Also, you are aware that the reigning ethnic groups over there are not black, right? Just saying. And don't you think that the complete obliteration of two countries in the last decade (Iraq and Libya) by Europeans and North Americans, let alone the last few centuries of 'meddling' by said Europeans and North Americans in African and Middle Eastern affairs is going to cause just a little bit of anger from the people who live in the region? As opposed to the systemic discrimination and brutality of the indigenous people towards others, which was the very reason that Europeans even began their own discriminations and brutalities in the region in the first place? What about the conquest of Spain? The enslavement of pilgrims, and countless other travelers, to Jerusalem? Or is that part of the history to be ignored, simply so you can prove a point? EDIT: Read the first quoted portion of this post before you reply to the first sentence of the above paragraph. Context is important. What we are seeing is a war of class, not race. It is cast as a race issue by the media (wholly owned by the rich) to deflect attention from what is really happening. But everyone that belongs to a social class cannot be generalized as good or bad, which is something that people don't seem to understand. Maybe in big cities it is different and all police are corrupt, but in my little corner of America, there is only one or two crooked cops on the whole squad, if even that, and they mainly are just overzealous writing speeding tickets. To say that every cop is bad is just as simplistic, and erroneous, as saying that every poor person is a thuggish drug addict, every homeless person is a bum, and every middle class person is a brain-dead worker drone for the system. I think you guys are taking this thread in the wrong direction... I will agree that it is being derailed. I simply made one statement and I have already had people try to tear apart what I said and make it something that it most clearly was not. If people would actually read what I said and stop making presumptions of 'oh, she disagreed, so she must be a privileged white woman who doesn't know what it's like to be discriminated against', which is precisely what it sounds like to me. I have done aid work, went to places to help people of all ethnic groups that many would not even give the time of day, paid for it dearly, and yet, people presume that, because I have a different way of looking at things than them, I'm one of 'those' people.
You can't see because I'll wager that you're probably not the right skin color, or whatever, to be at the wrong side of a prejudiced police force, or know someone personally who was. "Not the right skin color?" Implying that there is a wrong one? How telling of you. Let me ask you: do you know what being a female white European Christian aid worker in the Middle East is like? No? Well then, I suggest you read the rather graphic spoiler below and I'll tell you. I know very well what discrimination is, but I do not blame people who did not participate, unless they explicitly support those actions, not just passively have a 'meh' attitude about them. Somewhat graphic description:
A LOT of female white/European aid workers in the Middle East, particularly those who are Christian, face such things as rape gangs, random beatings in the street, public derision, and, in the case of one of my friends, being kidnapped and sold as a sex slave. The first three things I personally know are horrible experiences. I have never heard from my friend again, so I can only presume the last of those is even worse. And guess what? All of those things are considered legal, even if a J+$ya is paid. So tell me, LazarX, is that not discrimination? Or does that not count because I am not one of a particular group? If the latter, then what is the difference? Votre réponse? EDIT: Why is J%*ya distorted? It's not a curse word, as far as I know. J-i-z-y-a is the word, minus the -'s. EDIT 2: And just so we're clear, the first two out of those events in the spoiler were perpetrated by the equivalent of a police officer, while the third was pretty much done by police and civilian alike, and the fourth happened while an officer was standing RIGHT THERE.
Not sure I see how it justifies burning buildings and looting stores of people not even involved. I also don't see how attacking ALL of the police accomplishes anything. Yeah, there's reason to be angry, but keep it focused on those involved. This is simply mob violence.
Hey, skeletons dancing a jig sounds a lot like Dia Los Muertos, one of the more fun Autumn Holidays (Aren't they all though?)!
Dressed in a tantalizing maid outfit, she goes to clean up the ashes after the Flame War and trips over the too-obvious Troll corpse in the floor. She promptly gets up and kicks a nearby crying Goblin baby, worthless 5 ft.-by-5 ft. space-wasting sack of EXP that it is. The Goblin baby knocks a Helmet of Opposite Alignment onto a marauding Orc's head, the future Sir Bitgroper of Belzken, Savior of All Oozekind and Wielder of the Sacred Codpiece. She then lets out a series of gender-based, orientation-based, racial, religious, political, philosophical, literary, artistic, and technological slurs, along with a few choice words about people's rectal sphincters, before striding away purposefully... only to trip over a table. She shakes her fist to the sky, "DAMN YOU TABLES!!!" |