Birthright: Ruins of Empire (Inactive)

Game Master EltonJ

Hi guys, Birthright discussion thread here. We can talk about your Realms on this thread.

Tagging in Maryam.

Tagging here! Like I said on the recruitment, I haven't played Birthright before, so I'm learning on the go here. It should be fun!

Hi guys. Rannach (with his 18 bloodscore and especially a lvl 1 character) is a guy who will have difficulty managing a large domain. So a question, is anyone looking to have a court wizard controlling the sources in their domain?

Elton, you were originally proposing setting the campaign in the south coast region, but you started talking about putting Ilse in Western Aduria:

I was thinking of giving him an island archipelago off the Western Part of Aduria. Near the Anuirean Colonies.

Do you have a netbook or something describing the domains of western Aduria?

Hi guys. Rannach (with his 18 bloodscore and especially a lvl 1 character) is a guy who will have difficulty managing a large domain. So a question, is anyone looking to have a court wizard controlling the sources in their domain?

Elton, you were originally proposing setting the campaign in the south coast region, but you started talking about putting Ilse in Western Aduria:

EltonJ wrote:

I was thinking of giving him an island archipelago off the Western Part of Aduria. Near the Anuirean Colonies.

Do you have a netbook or something describing the domains of western Aduria?

There wasn't one made yet. There has been some talk, but not yet.

Tagging here! Like I said on the recruitment, I haven't played Birthright before, so I'm learning on the go here. It should be fun!

Sariana reporting for duty - also new to Birthright this will be interesting. :D

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Sari has an even lower Bloodscore than Rannach (10) so she won't be ruling any lands for the time being - but that seems apt for a Mistress of the Underworld. I make you money (and myself more... ;) )

Also @EltonJ are we getting to roll for a magic item, and if so, how/what table should we be using?

Magic weapons, rings, or Wondrous Items. Your choice.

We're just rolling for a random magic item?

Magic weapons, rings, or Wondrous Items. Your choice.

What tier? Rings for example have Lesser/Greater Minor, Lesser/Greater Medium and Lesser/Greater Major. I'll happily roll on the last table but I assume that's not the idea? ;)

Minor magic all around. :) For instance, you might have a +1 magic sword, or a ring of shielding.

I'll take a Headband of Vast Intelligence +2 for Maryam.

I'll take a Headband of Vast Intelligence +2 for Maryam.

Ah, good.

Maryam is doing the sensible thing and I should absolutely take +2 Cha, but is there anything more fun...

Well I think it'll be a +1 bow with a +1 ability (since thats on the greater minor weapons table), but I need to ask. Would 'Scion' be a legitimate category for the Bane weapon? So it would be better against other people with bloodlines and no-one else?

Maryam is doing the sensible thing and I should absolutely take +2 Cha, but is there anything more fun...

Well I think it'll be a +1 bow with a +1 ability (since thats on the greater minor weapons table), but I need to ask. Would 'Scion' be a legitimate category for the Bane weapon? So it would be better against other people with bloodlines and no-one else?

Technically yes, will also work against Awnsheghlien to.

So then could we look at total value and allow Kendryl to have 2 Rings?
Ring of Climbing
Ring of Jumping

Kendryl's Kat Rings :)

Total value = 5000gp (a touch more than the Headband)

So then could we look at total value and allow Kendryl to have 2 Rings?

Ring of Climbing
Ring of Jumping

Kendryl's Kat Rings :)

Total value = 5000gp (a touch more than the Headband)

Alrighty. The cost comes out of your treasury.

Should I like… find an item worth around 5k? I’m a little confused.

Should I like… find an item worth around 5k? I’m a little confused.

You randomly roll for an item. :) Though if you commission an item, it comes out of your treasury.

You can roll on the minor tier.

I don't see anyone rolling! Is it somewhere else? Where are people rolling?

No idea what to roll or where to roll: 5d4 + 5d6 + 5d8 + 5d10 + 5d12 + 5d20 ⇒ (2, 1, 4, 1, 4) + (6, 4, 2, 1, 4) + (3, 1, 5, 3, 1) + (2, 8, 10, 7, 10) + (1, 6, 7, 9, 12) + (8, 7, 8, 5, 5) = 147

Would you mind also opening the gameplay so we can dot to appear on the campaigns tab?

I don't see anyone rolling! Is it somewhere else? Where are people rolling?

[dice=No idea what to roll or where to roll]5d4+5d6+5d8+5d10+5d12+5d20

Would you mind also opening the gameplay so we can dot to appear on the campaigns tab?

and if you prefer GM Elton, it can be a Ninja-Dot: dot in ... wait a minute ... delete the post. The campaign will still be added to our Campaign Tab, but the thread will remain clear until you start

Here's the map of the Southern Coast of Anuire.

It includes Diemed, Endier, the Spiderfell, Medoere, Ilien, Roesone, and Aerenwe. It also includes the Colony of Mieres on Aduria. You can select any realm except the Spiderfell -- which is dominated by the Spider, a powerful Awnshegh.

Select your realm here.

I went with the headband because it was a minor woundrous item. I didn't roll for it.

Looks like one of the two churches of the Life and Protection of Avanalae in the Imperial City would be the most fitting for Maryam.

I went with the headband because it was a minor woundrous item. I didn't roll for it.

Looks like one of the two churches of the Life and Protection of Avanalae in the Imperial City would be the most fitting for Maryam.

Okay, do any of you want a piece of Diemed as well?

Ok - so much confusion regarding the minor magical item.

I'm going to roll on the 'Greater Minor' weapons table (since that seems to be the indicated power level) and see what I get.

Random Magic Weapon: 1d100 ⇒ 57
+1 weapon with a +1 ability. That'll be my shortbow then.

Shortbow Special Ability: 1d100 ⇒ 72
Returning, can't apply to bow.

Ability Reroll: 1d100 ⇒ 84
Seeking.

So my randomly determined minor item is a +1 seeking shortbow. That seems pretty fitting! Does the method involved meet with your approval @EltonJ?

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Regarding realms...

I'm still foggy about how this works, and how we work as a party. Should one of us be claiming a realm and the rest of us run the various holdings within it? Sorry, I read the rulebook on this but didn't really get it!

Ok - so much confusion regarding the minor magical item.

I'm going to roll on the 'Greater Minor' weapons table (since that seems to be the indicated power level) and see what I get.

[dice=Random Magic Weapon]d100
+1 weapon with a +1 ability. That'll be my shortbow then.

[dice=Shortbow Special Ability]d100
Returning, can't apply to bow.

[dice=Ability Reroll]d100
Seeking.

So my randomly determined minor item is a +1 seeking shortbow. That seems pretty fitting! Does the method involved meet with your approval @EltonJ?

It does.

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Regarding realms...

I'm still foggy about how this works, and how we work as a party. Should one of us be claiming a realm and the rest of us run the various holdings within it? Sorry, I read the rulebook on this but didn't really get it!

I'm offering you a choice. You can either share one realm together (Collective Rule) or you choose a realm to govern (Each to his throne). That's the choice laid before you.

In that case I vote collective!

I think collective rule could work, but there is one major problem and maybe a minor one...

The major problem is that I believe we have 6 characters (Rannach, Maryam, Sariana, Ilse, Lothric, Kendryl) and there are 5 realm power sources ( provinces, law, guilds, temples and sources). This may have solved itself, as we haven't heard from some folks in a while - so lets have a roll call:

Rannach is still in.

The minor problem is that there are no formal temples of Avanalae in the Southern Coast region. As Maryam has noted, the closest is the Life and Protection of Avanalae, which is spread across the Heartlands region (Coeranys, Elinie, Ghoere and the imperial city) and is enormous... That leaves us moving regions, or instead, perhaps we could convert one of the existing temples of another diety to Avani worship.

Sari is here, waiting for the rest of you to make a mistake...

Thankfully, Kendryl's 9-lives are still very much intact, so he can handle a mistake or 2 ;)

AND

Having just done a quick but solid review of pages 32-41, it seems like we are in great shape. There are actually 6 types of holdings which are controlable by regents: the list above leaves off Trade Routes.

I am still very much interested in being Count of Endier ... and am totally open an arrangement of vassalage as described on page 37. I think with enough focus and teamwork, there is no reason for all of the Minor Bloodlines rolled to stay minor for very long, because it takes so few Regency Points for you all to increase yours.

This has great potential.

Thankfully, Kendryl's 9-lives are still very much intact, so he can handle a mistake or 2 ;)

AND

Having just done a quick but solid review of pages 32-41, it seems like we are in great shape. There are actually 6 types of holdings which are controlable by regents: the list above leaves off Trade Routes.

I am still very much interested in being Count of Endier ... and am totally open an arrangement of vassalage as described on page 37. I think with enough focus and teamwork, there is no reason for all of the Minor Bloodlines rolled to stay minor for very long, because it takes so few Regency Points for you all to increase yours.

This has great potential.

Trade routes are a subsection of guild holdings; you can't use create Trade Route without a guild holding...

Another thing we should settle: The original rulebook rules were set up for 2nd edition (for example, they still reference non-weapon proficiencies...) . Are we using those, or are we using the online 3.5 edition update HERE {scroll down to Birthright Campaign Setting (D&D 3.5/D20 version) }

I'm happy to have a minion fellow player to oversee the trade routes for me... ;)

Another thing we should settle: The original rulebook rules were set up for 2nd edition (for example, they still reference non-weapon proficiencies...) . Are we using those, or are we using the online 3.5 edition update HERE {scroll down to Birthright Campaign Setting (D&D 3.5/D20 version) }

Yes, we are using the 3.x/d20 version. Unfortunately.

Ninja-Dotted!
Campaign tab is updated!

Thank you GM

On my phone at the moment, but will go through the map and other details later today. Ilse’s domain can be any small archipelago with trade routes that makes sense for pirates :)

Soooooooo, individual realms it is ;)
All good

Would that island ("Albiele") and surrounding minor islands (an archipelago by the coast of Miere, it seems) be available as a domain for Ilse? Or would you have suggestions matching more her background?

Also, where are these tables people are rolling against? I'm looking at the PDF but I just see stats for the items, but not like % chances or things like that. If I got it right, one can either choose an item (and pay for it out of treasury) or roll for it?

My apologies for the confusion... Very new system for me, so everything feels alien.

Mieires might be perfect for Ilse. Pirates base there.

Would that island ("Albiele") and surrounding minor islands (an archipelago by the coast of Miere, it seems) be available as a domain for Ilse? Or would you have suggestions matching more her background?

Also, where are these tables people are rolling against? I'm looking at the PDF but I just see stats for the items, but not like % chances or things like that. If I got it right, one can either choose an item (and pay for it out of treasury) or roll for it?

My apologies for the confusion... Very new system for me, so everything feels alien.

Although this is not Paizo's official Players Referrence Guide (PRG Database), it is a good place to find the tables you are looking for.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/

1d100 ⇒ 49

So, does it mean her urumi is a +2 urumi?

1d100

So, does it mean her urumi is a +2 urumi?

It can be. +2 magic items are a little more powerful.

Okay, we can talk about realms. Who gets what realm?

From my side, I feel Mieres matches Ilse a lot better, especially the island by east of it. Ilse could easily know well the others, since I imagine most traders would want to negotiate with the local pirates or at least avoid them :D

Well, the Sea Drake will be a trouble for you.

No idea what a Sea Drake is :)

No idea what a Sea Drake is :)

That's fixable. :D

The sea drake is an awnshegh that lives in the straits of Aerele. He accosts shipping and asks for treasure. Ships that attack him are sunk.

This sounds like something Ilse would proactively work to avoid, including creating networks of ships to warn where the creature is probably roaming! :D

This sounds like something Ilse would proactively work to avoid, including creating networks of ships to warn where the creature is probably roaming! :D

and maybe ... OMG ... even collaborating with her colleagues to become powerful enough to destroy it. Politics is all about alliances ;)

Good point.

Ok, if Ilse is taking Mieres, Rannach will be the heir of the wizard Mhistecai.

So how did Ilse seize power in Mieres? If Mhistecai and Arron Vaumel annihilated each other, perhaps Ilse and Rannach seized various pieces of power in the resultant chaos?

In that case, I am happy to have Kendryl be the Prince of Caelcorwynn.
http://cerilia.wikidot.com/caelcorwynn